AVZ Discussion 2022

[Charbella]

Both proceedings refers to the 2 separate claims at the ICC against Dathomir by AVZ for the 5% and 10% purchases of Dathcom in 2021

Cong is trying to get out of the ICC on jurisdiction because he knows he will lose both cases and be liable for damages to AVZ. If he loses his jurisdiction claim then he will finally fulfil his contractual obligations to transfer the total 15% of Dathcom to AVZ so he can avoid having to pay us compensation and this will all be over well before September 2024 imo

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AVZI submitted its Reply on Jurisdiction on 10 March 2023. Jin Cheng will submit a rejoinder on jurisdiction on 22 March 2023, and the hearing on jurisdiction will take place on 19 - 20 April 2023.
AVZI remains of the view that its jurisdictional challenge will be successful; an award on jurisdiction can reasonably be expected to be handed down mid-2023.

It should be noted that this does not finally determine whether the sale of shares from Cominière to Jin Cheng was effective, which will remain to be determined in separate proceedings.

Hi Carlos, your thoughts on the above two points?

 

[Carlos Danger]

AVZI submitted its Reply on Jurisdiction on 10 March 2023. Jin Cheng will submit a rejoinder on jurisdiction on 22 March 2023, and the hearing on jurisdiction will take place on 19 - 20 April 2023.
AVZI remains of the view that its jurisdictional challenge will be successful; an award on jurisdiction can reasonably be expected to be handed down mid-2023.

It should be noted that this does not finally determine whether the sale of shares from Cominière to Jin Cheng was effective, which will remain to be determined in separate proceedings.

Hi Carlos, your thoughts on the above two points?

Yeah I've been trying to work out what management's game plan is regarding how we will get the 15% transfer from Cominiere to Jin Cheng reversed so we can exercise our FROR. Basically the ICC case brought by Zijin is to force AVZ to recognise them in Dathcom not whether the 15% transfer was illegal.

AVZ is saying that the ICC isn't the correct jurisdiction for this hearing. I assume that was originally because we had already lodged the case in the DRC that would test the legality of the transfer therefore the ICC case is legally redundant.

But now we have also dropped the case within the DRC because it was taking too long. So I'm unsure what legal avenue management plan to use to enforce our rights. My guess is a higher court in the DRC but that will take time.

 

[Charbella]

Any truth in this?

Also tell people that the current PCA of the cominière is the son of M.Tshisekedi @fatshi13 , I quote Antony Tshisekedi.

You don't say anything there.

 

[Thunderpony]

Just read the report…. It answers every fucken question that people here have been asking but I’ll bet those same people will still be asking the same questions and blaming the same people.

I don’t like speculating but going by the report it looks like Felix is no help and we will be going to arbitration, so to those people who are going to be asking the same questions…. Get your bongs and your tissues out and get ready for more of the same

*reaches for bong*

 

[Ozthescot]

Reading the half yearly, it would seem we are potentially in for the long haul with all the bullshit!

If the ML is dependant on ICC outcome then It would seem the game plan here for the enemy is just to play for time!

Hopefully its not gonna be the case though, the wait continues......

 

[tonster66]

Both proceedings refers to the 2 separate claims at the ICC against Dathomir by AVZ for the 5% and 10% purchases of Dathcom in 2021

Cong is trying to get out of the ICC on jurisdiction because he knows he will lose both cases and be liable for damages to AVZ. If he loses his jurisdiction claim then he will finally fulfil his contractual obligations to transfer the total 15% of Dathcom to AVZ so he can avoid having to pay us compensation and this will all be over well before September 2024 imo

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[tonster66]

Same bank as the receipt for the Dathomir payment. On that point, that receipt was only issued to one person, I spoke to that person at the AGM and he was the one that told me that they had the receipt. Carlos Danger, who is he really?

 

[Xerof]

Same bank as the receipt for the Dathomir payment. On that point, that receipt was only issued to one person, I spoke to that person at the AGM and he was the one that told me that they had the receipt. Carlos Danger, who is he really?

Not meaning to deflect your question, but that Dathomir bank statement posted by Carlos only shows the reversal of the 20M out of the bank account - the incoming deposit appears to be redacted.


Having Dathomir bank statement is a coup
the only person I know of who claims to have corresponded with Cong is der Giest. Just saying

 

[John25]

Well SH’s its that time of week …Happy 45 weeks in suspension
Stay Positive

 

[JAG]

Thankfully the AVZ situation in the DRC is not as dire as the outcome of the opening round of the AFL.....

Who got smashed? .......

 

[Dijon101]

Well SH’s its that time of week …Happy 45 weeks in suspension
Stay Positive
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How old I turned last month!

It's just the general vibe, time to celebrate

 

[John25]

How old I turned last month!

It's just the general vibe, time to celebrate

 

[Samus]

Translation:
Sama Lukonde is parading the corrupt MoP around like prize turkey.

 

[Spikerama]

Folks I've updated the ICC Countdown to reflect the stated date of 19th April.

ICC International Court of Arbitration / Zijin vs AVZ Countdown

Shows the remaining days until the cheaters & liars & true law abiders are revealed to the world.

icc-zijin-vs-avz-corruption-countdown.netlify.app

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Any truth in this?

Also tell people that the current PCA of the cominière is the son of M.Tshisekedi @fatshi13 , I quote Antony Tshisekedi.

You don't say anything there.

Just started a ‘Thread’ on Cong this morning…. Only three posts of information so far and might be a bit too much reading for some, but the third post mentions how Felix’s children like to party at Cong’s hotel (last two paragraphs)

It’s starting to appear that corruption in the DRC still goes all the way to the top

 

[Spikerama]

Just started a ‘Thread’ on Cong this morning…. Only three posts of information so far and might be a bit too much reading for some, but the third post mentions how Felix’s children like to party at Cong’s hotel (last two paragraphs)

It’s starting to appear that corruption in the DRC still goes all the way to the top

Bags who was the guy who works in the same building as Mupande who got caught on camera soliciting bribes for favourable mining contracts? He wen't to jail for 5 mins and was released

Was it Vidiye Tshimanga?

 

[wombat74]

With regards to the Legal Proceedings / ICC .

"This action does not impact the award of ML nor our ability to progress funding and development of the project." Ben Cohen Dec 2022.

A few things to consider if this sh1t shows continues : December elections / MoM / Finances / Delisting / Trading again without the ML .

So what of these so called Negotiations . Are they really happening ?

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Bags who was the guy who works in the same building as Mupande who got caught on camera soliciting bribes for favourable mining contracts? He wen't to jail for 5 mins and was released

Was it Vidiye Tshimanga?

Yes, page 1 on ‘Corruption’ thread

 

[CHB]

Legit question.

How long before people start calling Felix out as corrupt for putting up with corruption in his government?

 

[TheCount]

Legit question.

How long before people start calling Felix out as corrupt for putting up with corruption in his government?

About 45 weeks ago....
TC.