AVZ Discussion 2022

[Hudnut]

Let’s be honest which is a better scenario for AVZ, 15% of Dathcom to Zijin or the whole northern part to Zijin?

Or C), Zijin can fuck off and AVZ gets our just reward for doing all the work and stumping up the cash to make it happen.

 

[Samus]

Fuck Zijin.
Their corruption, blackmail and supreme arrogance has now been fully exposed.

Is there a full copy of the letter floating around or just the first page?

 

[SilentOne]

The simple fact is you don't reward dishonest and corrupt behavior - by doing so you are endorsing it and inviting the same behavior in the future.

Once compromised always compromised - the answer should be no to Zijin

 

[9cardomaha]

 

[Samus]

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[Retrobyte]

Has this been posted yet?

william mambwe on LinkedIn: Traveling to manono district of Tanganyika province.

Traveling to manono district of Tanganyika province.

www.linkedin.com

 

[Mute22]

Has this been posted yet?

william mambwe on LinkedIn: Traveling to manono district of Tanganyika province.

Traveling to manono district of Tanganyika province.

www.linkedin.com

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Anyone know why the AVZ logo has been removed from the entrance piece?

It's been that way since beginning of last year I think?

 

[Mr Inappropriate]

Let me have a look. And yeah I think to Redaih's point and yours, it probably need contextualising.

Not sure we need a website to contain all the other information but maybe something linked to to UDS Counter. Like a headline top and bottom.

MINISTERIAL CORRUPTION
ILLEGAL SHARE TRANSFERS
CHINESE COERCION AND
BUREAUCRATIC DELAYS
HAVE LOST THE DRC GOV

USD $84,831,685

POTENTIAL REVENUE FROM
MANONO/AVZ MINE DELAY
SO FAR.

Something like that.

Make it real, I reckon.

You could contextualise that $ figure in terms of schools, hospitals, roads etc for greater meaning. E.g.

• $22000 per school https://buildaschoolinafrica.org/
• €26 million per hospital https://www.fondationpierrefabre.org/en/combating-sickle-cell-disease/drc-new-hospital-kinshasa/
• Can’t find a cost per km of road,sorry.

 

[Carlos Danger]

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You're an absolute animal haha

Thank you so much for sourcing all these documents

I know it's a long shot and it probably doesn't exist as the original article on miningandbusiness.com has now been deleted but is there a copy in your bag of tricks of the alleged ordinance for the reshuffle?

Specifically ordinance no 21/018 allegedly of 13/01/2023

All good if not. And I'm a big fan of Spongebob too. He knows how to make the most out of life giving him a pineapple.

 

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Doing it right with 50ton liebherr crane at AVZ manono project, Tanganyika province in democratic republic of congo. | 21 comments on LinkedIn

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[DiscoDanNZ]

Has this been posted yet?

william mambwe on LinkedIn: Traveling to manono district of Tanganyika province.

Traveling to manono district of Tanganyika province.

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There's that crane with the sick green rims, good to see it made it off the truck.

P. S. Fuck Zijin and there grubby tactics, I'm over it. Give them the North, give us our ML, open to market again get this dog to $1.50 + so I can get the fuck out with a big CGT payment and still have the mortgage to pay.

P. P. S. Fuck Felix and the DRC being open for investment preaching, the only thing that's open is their own pockets and pie holes.

 

[Mr Inappropriate]

Have we seen the document where AVZ allegedly renounces the northern section?

 

[timb89]

What does anyone make of the alleged video of Zinjin relqiunishing their 15% claim?

a) Misinterpret the video, from my recollection there were no subtitles and I was only relying on the commentary of others.
b) Was this possibly a staged video to distance Zinjin, whilst they bribed and pulled strings.

 

[Samus]

What I don't really understand is "their offer", what's the fucken offer? Give us the north or we refuse to give back the 15%. How very generous! Ffs. Fucken unbelievable! - Cunts.

 

[Fletch77]

what klaus eckhoff and ajn recources have to say about it. in a german video he recently said that them should be given a part of the north.

With a name like Peter Clark, your English, or translator seems a bit rusty…

 

[Carlos Danger]

Have we seen the document where AVZ allegedly renounces the northern section?

Only the initial second decree which just says Dathcom renounce the northern 82 carrés. No specifics as to what happens to it. There will be accompanying paperwork where we were given some sort of guarantee about a PR in the JV with the DRC government. Management wouldn't have said it in the May 4th 2022 announcement otherwise.

Another possible scenario here is that we are asked to sell the north to someone else for the government JV. If we got some cash and a friendly tenant next door like RIO or one of the gringos that are committed to investing in processing plants with Dathcom then it would be a lot better for all involved. But Zijin would still probably be pursuing the 15% of Dathcom if that happens.

 

[Samus]

There's that crane with the sick green rims, good to see it made it off the truck.

P. S. Fuck Zijin and there grubby tactics, I'm over it. Give them the North, give us our ML, open to market again get this dog to $1.50 + so I can get the fuck out with a big CGT payment and still have the mortgage to pay.

P. P. S. Fuck Felix and the DRC being open for investment preaching, the only thing that's open is their own pockets and pie holes.

Franck implies that the author of this article may be mistaken about the MoM's motives.
This part of the article appears to be an assumption by the author without any evidence to back it up (unless I'm missing something).
Fuck Zijin, give them nothing other than a kick up the ass and tell them to fuck off.
Maybe strip them of some other assets as punishment for good measure.

 

[obe wan]

The question is, was the offer that zijn made accepted, or was the 60-day period allowed to elapse

That offer would have lapsed on 20th December ; I was wondering WTF was with cominieres letter, it was asking to pull down the decree, as it claimed AVZ made the decision on renouncing the north but c;aiming they ( cominiere) didn't agree to that.....its a letter which came totally out of the blue and something which should have surfaced months ago, as it would have made things a lot easier, in knocking out DG claim....if of course that was genuinely their concern all along.

Seems a bit of disconnect between DG and Cominiere...comineres letter was dated 7th of December 2022...so this was inside the offer period, we know AJN were after the North.....Zijin were after the 15% of the South; MoP was clearly in on and after gains; with involvement in both of the attempts on north and South....but then cominiere wants decree for the split pulled down; so what happened here then?

Did they find themselves in a situation where they were going shotgun, until Zijins offer dropped on Cominiere desk, which then shifted cominieres focus onto the North, with a 29% holding in a JV and the 15% back at zero cost...., but DG Cami and MoP had been trying to pull AJN through on the North....was one of these dodgy dealings all of a sudden going to be sacrificed for a more lucrative one?

How fast were cominiere expecting to get these decrees pulled down...hardly within a 2 week period ( between 7th and 20th) ; did zijin offer an extension to the 60 days hence why we seen a late drive for the decree to the north to be nullified which would see AJNs application scrapped, but potential negotiations grounds created, where by Zijin withdraw the 15% claim on the south, ROFR goes to AVZ, handbrake release, no ICC and the project back in motion, but in exchange that Zijin and Cominiere JV takes the north.

Hopefully cominiere / zijin and Cami have beached themselves now, with a dose of ‘fuck around and find out’; I reckon today's article is one they’ve wished hadn't surfaced

 

[Remark]

English…i live in the south of france

Well in that case translate this from English to French "Bag one ten happiness".

 

[Samus]

Here he is the disgusting cunt.

https://laitimes.com/en/article/3ms6j_43h70.html… All that money and he still insists on trying to defraud RDC and steal resources without paying a fair price. What a truly dirty and shameful man. CHEN Jinghe is a national disgrace.

Pardon my French - sorry about that.