AVZ Discussion 2022

[Carlos Danger]

What i don’t understand in that case, when the final decree is about a PE of that circa 130 fraom 221 quadrants ( don’t remember the right number), it definitely need a new exploration license area with a new number for the nothern exploration part. So why did we get no mining license and work out the new jv relationships at the same time? Or is it possible to take out a certain part within a license transform it in a PE and the rest is a PR with the same License number? From a bureaucratic Point of view it seems illogical to me.

Would a mining licence for PE13359 that covers a perimeter of the entire 221 carrés that Dathcom are legally entitled to require a new ministerial decree?

 

[Carlos Danger]

You mean the company have a problem with the ministerial decree of the 139 quadrants, because cami gave the technical decree for the complete 221? That would mean the MoM made a mistake or had the instructions to do. Or why did she reduce the quadrants for the PE? In this case i think we need of course a new decree from the minister of mines about the 221 quadrants when the company is fighting for it and thats the reason we still have no ML. But that would mean we have to go against that decree to change it for the complete area?

If Dathcom have successfully retained the northern part of the tenement for the PE then there might need to be a new decree or an amendment to the existing decree currently covering 139 carrés to legally give them the entire area covering 221 carrés.

The MoM didn't make a mistake. The reduction was negotiated with AVZ. If anyone made a mistake it was management because Dathcom were legally entitled to it all. However, according to Nigel Mupande said that request came from Tshisekedi but he was later told that wasn't true by Felix when he met him.

Management were happy enough with the splitting of the tenement and proposed joint venture negotiations with the DRC government for the northern part under a 5 year PR in the May 4th 2022 ministerial decree announcement. We traded for 3 days after they told the market. They definitely knew about it beforehand.

What they didn't know was that Mupande and Klaus were scheming to give the northern part to AJN. That's why Nigel resigned from their board a few days after the ministerial decree announcement when he found that out. He should have also sold his shares imo. Hopefully it won't be a potential conflict of interest issue much longer.

 

[Ozthescot]

Translation: The Prosecutor General before the Court of Cassation has already referred the authorities to obtain the authorization and suspension of the Deaconess. Soon it is the hurricane.The Congolese people are demanding justice

 

[Winenut]

Conclusion....it looks like we have two different main problems. That we at least know about.
The ownership issue and no 10% left to cede it to the state. The 5% MMCS were not a problem at the time nigel gave the interview about to maybe give 15% to the state. In my opinion, the management did not expect cominiere to give up the 5% to MMCS. AVZ had already won several times against MMCS and Cominiere would violate the jv agreement again.

And our Nothern part. It would be important to know if the management fell for the trap and confirmed the "wish of the president's request" in a letter that they give up a part or are willing to enter into a new jv. In the end it was perhaps also a trick to accuse avz of violations in order to be able to contest the whole area, which could fit in one point as cominiere has already formulated in their letter to question avz or to claim the 60% in a international arbitration. If based on this fact there really is a chance to revoke the license from avz, i wonder where the president's help is. And would be deeply amazed by the associated stupidity of our management not to ask beforehand whether if its was actually true. If avz never formulated this letter i think we are on the safe side. If not, and its possible that they make a mistake it has caused massive damage, for which their maybe could certainly be liable one day?

On the other hand i think the management must have promised it in some way? Otherwise why would it happen without a basis? Why is the ministerial decree only 139 quadrants of 221? Why is in the decree a new PR formulated? Why would ajn stated it to acquire on 1 november on the tsx?
One thing is mysterious, on the 30 November Ajn stated again: "an area located in Tanganyika Province that is prospective for lithium and that originates from the partial relinquishment (which is disputed) of exploration permit number PR 13359"
And is there any evidence that mupande is spreading lies on behalf of the president? If so, why hasn't action been taken against mupande after 8 months? Is the president part of it or was it really just a mistake by the management? Or have they done it the same way they sell to zijin without any legal basis and give a fuck about the laws? In this case i wonder, is it possible to bring an entire government before the International Court of Justice? To sue them for damages? Could be maybe more than the drc has available in a year. But maybe its a good sign that ajn stated a month later under dispute, to save their faces?

As you can see, what happened raises a lot of questions. And creates a lot of speculation possibilities. And again, hopefully we find out in the near future what is the truth. And hopefully everything goes in our favor.

Many good points there Schuss

I agree "If based on this fact there really is a chance to revoke the license from avz, i wonder where the president's help is. And would be deeply amazed by the associated stupidity of our management not to ask beforehand whether if its was actually true."

Which followed on from Carlos Dangers point "The MoM didn't make a mistake. The reduction was negotiated with AVZ. If anyone made a mistake it was management because Dathcom were legally entitled to it all. However, according to Nigel Mupande said that request came from Tshisekedi but he was later told that wasn't true by Felix when he met him."

Fuck if I "heard" that request I would be seriously looking for confirmation from the President himself and getting it in fucking writing....wouldn't you think?

My recollection is PE13359 was carved up, the exploitation permit to be approved for the Lower section containing RD and the northern section including part of CDL to be subject to a new Exploration/Research permit for 5 years with the JV arrangements to be discussed further.

Nige was apparantly happy with that because he either "assumed" or was "convinced" or "tricked" into believing the northern section JV arrangements and discussions would be exclusively with AVZ/Dathcom as holder of the original 13359 permit covering the entire area

The absolute SHIT hit the fan IMO when he woke up and realised that might not be the case.....

Farken!

 

[Xerof]

AVZ are the majority shareholder of Dathcom. We control the project. We will have at least 51% no matter what so ownership is not an issue for the mining licence.

The amount of carrés is the missing number in Mupande's surface rights calculations

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'Wirklich falsch informiert! Auf einem 13 km langen Pegmatit-Trend hat AVZ „ein Vermögen“ ausgegeben, um diese „harte Arbeit“ auf nur 1,3 km zu leisten, um diesen sogenannten wertvollen Vermögenswert freizusetzen. Hat AVZ Anspruch auf die restlichen 90 %?'

seems to me that Felix of CAMI took a personal view (influenced by other parties?) that as AVZ had 'only' worked on a small portion of 13359, it seemed only fair for them to be decreed 133 of the 221, and so started the lies and farken around

does anyone know HOW the Princess 'amicably' resolved the 5% with MMCS? Seems perhaps, they just gave it to them out of Cominiere holding? edit: in fact in my fentanyl induced haze (see below), I recall Nige saying that happened and it is causing an inconvenience

larsfarken has shown his true allegiance to TTX and AJN in a recent tweet someone posted . He is also reading all of the stuff in here btw, I've seen him quote directly so it again seems to me that we are just feeding the monkeys good info for them to distort

what a clusterfuck - merry christmas

had my colonoscopy yesterday. it's been confirmed I'm a good Kunt, not a bad arsehole

 

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[Xerof]

I heard they serve pineapple with the pavlova for christmas dessert at Malaka

 

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[Charbella]

seems to me that Felix of CAMI took a personal view (influenced by other parties?) that as AVZ had 'only' worked on a small portion of 13359, it seemed only fair for them to be decreed 133 of the 221, and so started the lies and farken around

does anyone know HOW the Princess 'amicably' resolved the 5% with MMCS? Seems perhaps, they just gave it to them out of Cominiere holding? edit: in fact in my fentanyl induced haze (see below), I recall Nige saying that happened and it is causing an inconvenience

larsfarken has shown his true allegiance to TTX and AJN in a recent tweet someone posted . He is also reading all of the stuff in here btw, I've seen him quote directly so it again seems to me that we are just feeding the monkeys good info for them to distort

what a clusterfuck - merry christmas

had my colonoscopy yesterday. it's been confirmed I'm a good Kunt, not a bad arsehole

The princess amicably resolved the 5% with MMCS and saved a few millions in damages for the DRC government in the international courts. Let’s hope they can resolve amicably with AVZ to save billions in damages for the DRC government at ICC.

Lars has completely lost it on twitter, so many repeated tweets to defend AJN. Lost cause! I fear for his mental health and wellbeing.

 

[Bonsoir]

The princess amicably resolved the 5% with MMCS and saved a few millions in damages for the DRC government in the international courts. Let’s hope they can resolve amicably with AVZ to save billions in damages for the DRC government at ICC.

Lars has completely lost it on twitter, so many repeated tweets to defend AJN. Lost cause! I fear for his mental health and wellbeing.

Don’t fear for his mental health, he’s a sniveling fuckwit and doing his paid job for his masters.

 

[Mouthpiecenomnom]

Who is Lompempe Janot and how does he know things? First Ive heard of him.

 

[whales]

When they really gave it back without asking the president and just do it because mupande said, in one of the most corrupt countries in the world, and we will possible loose the fight because of that dumbness….then they are a complete bunch of idiots!

IF AVZ have written proof that the President did not ask for part of the CDL to be handed back to the government and Mupande had lied, falsified the request then what under law in the DRC what justice does Felix do???
If he is aware of the situation fully as it appears the media and ministers around him are fully disclosing relevant information.

 

[Winenut]

Who is Lompempe Janot and how does he know things? First Ive heard of him.

When you get on the bird and look at his profile seems to me he's a big Kabila fan

But no fan of Cominiere or the Princess....

Confusing???

Here's a link to the bird https://twitter.com/LompempeJ and just a snippet below

 

[John25]