AVZ Discussion 2022

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SP: $8 to $11 (15%error margin).

PE=5, SP~$8

PE=10, SP~$16

PE=20, SP~$32.



2027-2032: (10 yearest. from 2022).

With CDL added, AVZJORC be 3x of 2020 DFS. NPV (10% dis) = 16 Billion, IRR = 324% (post-tax),Length of Mine = 210 years.

AVZ's Spod (1.4MTPY) and PLS (90 KTPY) most likely as: 2025 - prod. begins to 2027: Take-Offs:Export 24% CATH (China) 15% DRC/Africa, Export 20% each for USA, EU and Japan.---- NPV: 5.8 Billion, IRR 108% post-tax (from 2022 revised BFS without CDL JORCest.)

... During the US Secretary of State Mr.Blinken delegation meeting with #DRC Minister of Mines last month, US has made itclear that they want to invest knowledge AND money to make batteries in DRCgiven no corrupt politicians benefit from it.



Post-3: CautionNumber-1: I invoke my second amendment right from the US Constitution for anindividual privilege to free speech, expressed both in verbal or in written, topost the following multiple short Twitter messages as of Sep-2022.



Post-4: ... Though ihave attempted to write these messages using the best of my professional andpersonal competence with the intention to share useful information, from andfor, in equity markets, with others. It is possible that these messages may be ...



Post-5: ...neurologically biased or written in a specific state of mind and can thereforeresult in loss of monies, or in some cases, loss of the entire wealth. I holdAZZVF (AVZ) since 2H-2017. Please be careful, if wealth is an important aspectof your living.



Post-6: CautionNumber-2: If DRC's President Felix is out of power and authority from itspresent highest level for any reason (constitutional demotion, acute healthsickness, voted out in Dec-2023 or assassinated (God forbid absolutely not)then I shall have …



Post-7: ... have nomonetary investments in DRC within one business day of that unforeseen event.Request Number-1: I have attempted to compute numbers here with due diligenceto back up yesterday's posts 1 and 2. However, there may be errors and omissions,…



Post-8: ... perhapsyou can find any and share with all to truly benefit all AVZ long term holders.Request Number-2: If you can find concerns, kindly back-them with reasons andsources, so i could amend the original for benefit of all.



Post-9: MajorPremises: - All monies in USD. All dates in MON-YR. All weights in Kilo Tons(KT). - Dathcom Corp: AVZ 75% + DRC(CAMI) 25%. DRC tax rate 35% but for theproposed AVZ SEZ permit, post SEZ permit taxation is about 15%.



Post-10: ... - SC6 Operation: DMS @ 56.5%; Recovery @60%; Strip Ratio @ 0.48; - PLS Operation: front-end only of the entire hydroxide plant(Calcination stage) and therefore a modular design for downstream off takers tocomplete the last stage locally.



Post-11: ... - SC6will not be exported (not a significant demand from AVZ for CATH to agree to),instead PLS shall be shipped via both east and west marine ports (FOB only).SC6 may be sent within Africa - southern and eastern industrial partner zones.



Post-12: ... -pricing is for only battery quality lithium which is 6% (and not 5.5% thatPilbara auctions at $6k+ a ton Spodumen and Chinese converters are facingrecent challenges spec'ing BQ to cathode OEMs). - PRs 4029 and 4030 (100% AVZ)not included here.



Post-13: ...Sources: DFS, pgs 1,61-62 (APR-20). Other assumptions (Pilbara, Africa economictrust zones, battery quality Lithium, PLS pricing) are public info. For EBITDAcalculations, following 4 metrics are explained and used: ...



Post-14: ... Metric-1: Total Mineral Deposit(PR15339, RD+CDL+5 other smaller Pegs.)=1.5 Billion Tons. Sources: US CanterFitzgerald's chat with AVZ, tonnage at TS:18m.40s (Nov-21): https://youtu.be/1w_AR-TKGec ...



Post-15: ... Wiki, Under Discovery and Occurance,last para. (Sep-22): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpodumeneMetric-2: Total Mining Duration (in years): From Jan-25 to Indefinite. 20 yearsLoM is due to the lithium price forecasting constraint placed by Roskill LLCand ...



Post-16: ... RoskillLLC and therefore can only go as far as 20 years. Sources: DFS, pg. 2, para.6,8, (APR-20). Metric-3: Yearly Production (ANSI mT): 700 KT For SC6; using PLSconversion rate of 3.5 results in (700,000 ÷ 3.5) 200 KT PLS. ...



Post-17: ...Sources: DFS, pg. 2, para. 6,8, (APR-20). Metric-3: Yearly Production (ANSImT): 700 KT For SC6; using PLS conversion rate of 3.5 results in (700,000 ÷3.5) 200 KT PLS. ...



Post-18: ... MD Mr.Furguson was 25% higher when he quoted 250 KT product to be electric-railedfrom Monano to Dar E Salam port in a recent interview (as he may have expansionplans finalised for the PLS trains 2, 3, 4 and 5 in the pipelined hydroxide studies…



Post-19: ...hydroxide studies already slated, and perhaps completed, for q1-22. Each PLStrain produces approx. 46,000 tons per year and 5 trains approx 250KT. Sourceshttps://hotcrapper.com.au/styles/default/xenforo/clear.pngFS, pg. 1 (APR-20). AVZ MD stating yearly tonnage, at TS: 7m.8s (AUG-22). …



Post-20: ... AVZ MD stating yearly tonnage, atTimestamp TS: 7m.8s (AUG-22). https://youtu.be/VuybAbrmCgAMetric-4: Pricing for SC6, PLS and Li2H. AVZ to CATH has a price floor and arising ceiling for 3 to 4 year contracts in chunks. …



Post-21: ... Theremaining 76% product is for open market and will be priced in a sustainable,affordable negotiated manner guided by both quantity and quality in alignmentwith Benchmark Mineral Intelligence BMI charts as well as LSE lithium pricingonce …



Post-22: ... pricingonce it's accepted and traded (replacing S&P global Pratts and Fastmarketsdata) in 2023 onwards. DFS from April 2020 has 700 for SC6, 7000 for PLS and10k for Tin. Prices in 2H-22 are 9 times for SC6 (6,500), 11 times for Li2H (78,000)…



Post-23: ... Li2H (78,000) and 7 times for Tin(70,000). For 2025 to 2027, It is okay to use 25% of today's prices which is:1,500 for SC6 and okay to use 30% of today's price of 23,000 for PLS. For 2027to 2032, we use 1,200 for SC6 and 21,000 for PLS. ...



Post-24: ... Therefore, for the next 10 years we useavg. as 1,350 for SC6 and 22,000 for PLS. Sources: US Govt. Lithium contractprices 2021: https://google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://pubs.usgs.gov/periodicals/mcs2022/mcs2022-lithium.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiKysW71IL6AhX6zHMBHQ1MD_UQFnoECAgQBQ&usg=AOvVaw1-4RZ3zk4x1ZBSTxEJ2eml…...



Post-25: ... LCM pricing forecast upto 2027 for high,base, low (and SQM) charts by Joe Lowry (SEP-2022) of Global Lithium LLC https://globallithium.net/s/Lithium-Carbonate-price-FC-Sept-2022-v2.pdf…----------------------- Calculation per JORC mining code standard for SC6:---------------------- ...



Post-26: ... 1. {1.5billion tons x 0.5 (strip ratio) x 0.6 (recovery rate)} ÷ {250 KT (PLS peryear) × 3.5 (AVZ design for SC6 to PLS)} = 51.43 years. LoM is 51 years. Tinand tantalum credits are 5% of yearly revenue. Calculations per US GAAPstandard: ...



Post-27: ... COST:Cost of Mineral Ore to SC6 converter = $130 million. (Reference: cost of eachPLS train = $190 million.) Cost for 5 trains (export for CATH-2, USA, EU andJapan 1 each) = $950 million. Total miscell. mine dev. cost = $220 million. …



Post-28: ... Cost ofPLS production + Cost of TRC SGR Electric Rail transport, per ton (COGS) =5,500. REVENUE: Yearly cash flow = 250,000 x $16,500 (which is 22,000-5,500) =$4.125 Billion. ...



Post-29: ... NPV(10% dis.; pre, post tax)= 24.05, 20.40 billion USD (10 year only) 36.142,30.721 B USD (25 year) 39.038, 33.182 B USD (40 year) 39.563, 33.629 B USD (49year) IRR (pre, post)= 322%, 274% (any of the duration: 10, 25, 40, 49 years).…



Post-30: ... PBP=less than one year but realistically may be couple years or less. AVZ 75%interest, post-tax as below: NPV (10% dis.) = 15.300 B USD (10 year). 26.112 BUSD (25 year). 33.182 B USD (40 years). 33.629 B USD (49 years). IRR= 232.9%.PBP= <1 yr



Post-31: ... IfAVZ's MC today according to the above NPV is 33.629 B USD for approx. 3 Billionshares outstanding, then earnings per share should be about 11 USD. Then, inJan-2023 for the: P/E = 5, SP = 55 USD. P/E = 10, SP = 110 USD. P/E = 20, SP =220 USD. …



Post-32: ...However, given the thematic nature of the critical mineral sector within thelarger macro economic backdrop, the lithium industry is enjoying a much higherP/E of the likes between 90 (PIL, LKE, LTR, AKE) and 35 (SQM, LTHM, ALB). ...



Post-33: ...Considering a junior minor going into mine dev. It is okay to assume a P/E of60 for AVZ. Discounting, sovereign risk of DRC by 50%, a true P/E can beestablished at 30, And therefore, AVZ stock price should be around 330 USD atthe start of 2023.



Post-34: ... One canargue, starting with 1.5 billion ton total ore is a flawed premise, when thepresent DFS JORC states about 400 million tons. This is okay and one can usethe reduced (about) 25% factor to give a revised SP of 87.5 USD (330 x 0.25). …



Post-35: ... Note:5% of total yearly cash flow additional revenue from tin and tantalum creditsare not added yet. Upcoming AVZ Catalyst announcements (AVZ equity impact -extremely high, very high, high, medium, low, very low) are enumerated next: …



Post-36: ... 0.Litigation: Claim-1 (Comminier) was dismissed in AVZ favor by the DRCgovernment ministry of mines, 15% retained by AVZ (high). Claim-2 (Dathomir)partially (10%) dismissed in AVZ favor by the Lubanbashi court of appeals,remaining 5% still in ..



Post-37: ... remaining 5% still in dispute and can besettled for good if AVZ gives $50 million more to Dathomir. Most likely this isin deliberation in the court as AVZ refused to give any more monies but hasretained the undisputed 10% in Claim-2 (medium). ...



Post-38: ... 1.PR13359 transition from exploration to exploitation, aka license to mine(extreme). 2. Bankable feasibility study BFS, made public within a few hours toa couple days after mining license is granted (very high). ...



Post-39: ... 3.DRC-AVZ collaboration agreement (medium). 4. CATH-AVZ TIA completion &prompt money transfer (very high). 5. Li2H / PLS expansion (5 trains) study andrelease of report (high). Note: Catalysts 3, 4 and 5 can occur in anychronological order. ...



Post-40: ... Finalinvestment decision, FID issued (high). 7. First formal, third-party compiled,AVZ ESG report released (medium). 8. DRC grant of special economic zone SEZpermits Monano district critical mineral industry for reduced tax rates(medium). ...



Post-41: ... 9.Establishment of "AVZ Foundation" benefiting Monano+Kitoltodistrict's start of schools, hospitals, green areas, human shelters and foodbanks (medium). Note: Catalysts 7, 8 and 9 can occur in any chronologicalorder. ...



Post-42: ... 10. DRCapproval of hydro power plant (85 km SE) refurbishment for a total of 46 MW(26+20), AVZ has included this expense in its cost (high). 11. Q4-22 CDLresource update for the 15 km drill hole project (high). ...



Post-43: ... 12.Q4-22: Final debt-FDI funding completed most likely from a pan-Africandevelopment bank and also by a consortium led by USA (canter Fitzgerald) and EUbanks in 2023 (very high). ...



Post-44: ... 13.Q2-23: Transport routes to the east port (Angola) and to the west port(Tanzania SGR electric rail to Brundi and then to DRC) contracts finalized withcountry, regional partner governments and port authorities. THIS IS THE LASTPOST. ------------
 
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SP: $8 to $11 (15%error margin).

PE=5, SP~$8

PE=10, SP~$16

PE=20, SP~$32.



2027-2032: (10 yearest. from 2022).

With CDL added, AVZJORC be 3x of 2020 DFS. NPV (10% dis) = 16 Billion, IRR = 324% (post-tax),Length of Mine = 210 years.

AVZ's Spod (1.4MTPY) and PLS (90 KTPY) most likely as: 2025 - prod. begins to 2027: Take-Offs:Export 24% CATH (China) 15% DRC/Africa, Export 20% each for USA, EU and Japan.---- NPV: 5.8 Billion, IRR 108% post-tax (from 2022 revised BFS without CDL JORCest.)

... During the US Secretary of State Mr.Blinken delegation meeting with #DRC Minister of Mines last month, US has made itclear that they want to invest knowledge AND money to make batteries in DRCgiven no corrupt politicians benefit from it.



Post-3: CautionNumber-1: I invoke my second amendment right from the US Constitution for anindividual privilege to free speech, expressed both in verbal or in written, topost the following multiple short Twitter messages as of Sep-2022.



Post-4: ... Though ihave attempted to write these messages using the best of my professional andpersonal competence with the intention to share useful information, from andfor, in equity markets, with others. It is possible that these messages may be ...



Post-5: ...neurologically biased or written in a specific state of mind and can thereforeresult in loss of monies, or in some cases, loss of the entire wealth. I holdAZZVF (AVZ) since 2H-2017. Please be careful, if wealth is an important aspectof your living.



Post-6: CautionNumber-2: If DRC's President Felix is out of power and authority from itspresent highest level for any reason (constitutional demotion, acute healthsickness, voted out in Dec-2023 or assassinated (God forbid absolutely not)then I shall have …



Post-7: ... have nomonetary investments in DRC within one business day of that unforeseen event.Request Number-1: I have attempted to compute numbers here with due diligenceto back up yesterday's posts 1 and 2. However, there may be errors and omissions,…



Post-8: ... perhapsyou can find any and share with all to truly benefit all AVZ long term holders.Request Number-2: If you can find concerns, kindly back-them with reasons andsources, so i could amend the original for benefit of all.



Post-9: MajorPremises: - All monies in USD. All dates in MON-YR. All weights in Kilo Tons(KT). - Dathcom Corp: AVZ 75% + DRC(CAMI) 25%. DRC tax rate 35% but for theproposed AVZ SEZ permit, post SEZ permit taxation is about 15%.



Post-10: ... - SC6 Operation: DMS @ 56.5%; Recovery @60%; Strip Ratio @ 0.48; - PLS Operation: front-end only of the entire hydroxide plant(Calcination stage) and therefore a modular design for downstream off takers tocomplete the last stage locally.



Post-11: ... - SC6will not be exported (not a significant demand from AVZ for CATH to agree to),instead PLS shall be shipped via both east and west marine ports (FOB only).SC6 may be sent within Africa - southern and eastern industrial partner zones.



Post-12: ... -pricing is for only battery quality lithium which is 6% (and not 5.5% thatPilbara auctions at $6k+ a ton Spodumen and Chinese converters are facingrecent challenges spec'ing BQ to cathode OEMs). - PRs 4029 and 4030 (100% AVZ)not included here.



Post-13: ...Sources: DFS, pgs 1,61-62 (APR-20). Other assumptions (Pilbara, Africa economictrust zones, battery quality Lithium, PLS pricing) are public info. For EBITDAcalculations, following 4 metrics are explained and used: ...



Post-14: ... Metric-1: Total Mineral Deposit(PR15339, RD+CDL+5 other smaller Pegs.)=1.5 Billion Tons. Sources: US CanterFitzgerald's chat with AVZ, tonnage at TS:18m.40s (Nov-21): https://youtu.be/1w_AR-TKGec ...



Post-15: ... Wiki, Under Discovery and Occurance,last para. (Sep-22): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpodumeneMetric-2: Total Mining Duration (in years): From Jan-25 to Indefinite. 20 yearsLoM is due to the lithium price forecasting constraint placed by Roskill LLCand ...



Post-16: ... RoskillLLC and therefore can only go as far as 20 years. Sources: DFS, pg. 2, para.6,8, (APR-20). Metric-3: Yearly Production (ANSI mT): 700 KT For SC6; using PLSconversion rate of 3.5 results in (700,000 ÷ 3.5) 200 KT PLS. ...



Post-17: ...Sources: DFS, pg. 2, para. 6,8, (APR-20). Metric-3: Yearly Production (ANSImT): 700 KT For SC6; using PLS conversion rate of 3.5 results in (700,000 ÷3.5) 200 KT PLS. ...



Post-18: ... MD Mr.Furguson was 25% higher when he quoted 250 KT product to be electric-railedfrom Monano to Dar E Salam port in a recent interview (as he may have expansionplans finalised for the PLS trains 2, 3, 4 and 5 in the pipelined hydroxide studies…



Post-19: ...hydroxide studies already slated, and perhaps completed, for q1-22. Each PLStrain produces approx. 46,000 tons per year and 5 trains approx 250KT. Sources
:D
FS, pg. 1 (APR-20). AVZ MD stating yearly tonnage, at TS: 7m.8s (AUG-22). …



Post-20: ... AVZ MD stating yearly tonnage, atTimestamp TS: 7m.8s (AUG-22). https://youtu.be/VuybAbrmCgAMetric-4: Pricing for SC6, PLS and Li2H. AVZ to CATH has a price floor and arising ceiling for 3 to 4 year contracts in chunks. …



Post-21: ... Theremaining 76% product is for open market and will be priced in a sustainable,affordable negotiated manner guided by both quantity and quality in alignmentwith Benchmark Mineral Intelligence BMI charts as well as LSE lithium pricingonce …



Post-22: ... pricingonce it's accepted and traded (replacing S&P global Pratts and Fastmarketsdata) in 2023 onwards. DFS from April 2020 has 700 for SC6, 7000 for PLS and10k for Tin. Prices in 2H-22 are 9 times for SC6 (6,500), 11 times for Li2H (78,000)…



Post-23: ... Li2H (78,000) and 7 times for Tin(70,000). For 2025 to 2027, It is okay to use 25% of today's prices which is:1,500 for SC6 and okay to use 30% of today's price of 23,000 for PLS. For 2027to 2032, we use 1,200 for SC6 and 21,000 for PLS. ...



Post-24: ... Therefore, for the next 10 years we useavg. as 1,350 for SC6 and 22,000 for PLS. Sources: US Govt. Lithium contractprices 2021: https://google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://pubs.usgs.gov/periodicals/mcs2022/mcs2022-lithium.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiKysW71IL6AhX6zHMBHQ1MD_UQFnoECAgQBQ&usg=AOvVaw1-4RZ3zk4x1ZBSTxEJ2eml…...



Post-25: ... LCM pricing forecast upto 2027 for high,base, low (and SQM) charts by Joe Lowry (SEP-2022) of Global Lithium LLC https://globallithium.net/s/Lithium-Carbonate-price-FC-Sept-2022-v2.pdf…----------------------- Calculation per JORC mining code standard for SC6:---------------------- ...



Post-26: ... 1. {1.5billion tons x 0.5 (strip ratio) x 0.6 (recovery rate)} ÷ {250 KT (PLS peryear) × 3.5 (AVZ design for SC6 to PLS)} = 51.43 years. LoM is 51 years. Tinand tantalum credits are 5% of yearly revenue. Calculations per US GAAPstandard: ...



Post-27: ... COST:Cost of Mineral Ore to SC6 converter = $130 million. (Reference: cost of eachPLS train = $190 million.) Cost for 5 trains (export for CATH-2, USA, EU andJapan 1 each) = $950 million. Total miscell. mine dev. cost = $220 million. …



Post-28: ... Cost ofPLS production + Cost of TRC SGR Electric Rail transport, per ton (COGS) =5,500. REVENUE: Yearly cash flow = 250,000 x $16,500 (which is 22,000-5,500) =$4.125 Billion. ...



Post-29: ... NPV(10% dis.; pre, post tax)= 24.05, 20.40 billion USD (10 year only) 36.142,30.721 B USD (25 year) 39.038, 33.182 B USD (40 year) 39.563, 33.629 B USD (49year) IRR (pre, post)= 322%, 274% (any of the duration: 10, 25, 40, 49 years).…



Post-30: ... PBP=less than one year but realistically may be couple years or less. AVZ 75%interest, post-tax as below: NPV (10% dis.) = 15.300 B USD (10 year). 26.112 BUSD (25 year). 33.182 B USD (40 years). 33.629 B USD (49 years). IRR= 232.9%.PBP= <1 yr



Post-31: ... IfAVZ's MC today according to the above NPV is 33.629 B USD for approx. 3 Billionshares outstanding, then earnings per share should be about 11 USD. Then, inJan-2023 for the: P/E = 5, SP = 55 USD. P/E = 10, SP = 110 USD. P/E = 20, SP =220 USD. …



Post-32: ...However, given the thematic nature of the critical mineral sector within thelarger macro economic backdrop, the lithium industry is enjoying a much higherP/E of the likes between 90 (PIL, LKE, LTR, AKE) and 35 (SQM, LTHM, ALB). ...



Post-33: ...Considering a junior minor going into mine dev. It is okay to assume a P/E of60 for AVZ. Discounting, sovereign risk of DRC by 50%, a true P/E can beestablished at 30, And therefore, AVZ stock price should be around 330 USD atthe start of 2023.



Post-34: ... One canargue, starting with 1.5 billion ton total ore is a flawed premise, when thepresent DFS JORC states about 400 million tons. This is okay and one can usethe reduced (about) 25% factor to give a revised SP of 87.5 USD (330 x 0.25). …



Post-35: ... Note:5% of total yearly cash flow additional revenue from tin and tantalum creditsare not added yet. Upcoming AVZ Catalyst announcements (AVZ equity impact -extremely high, very high, high, medium, low, very low) are enumerated next: …



Post-36: ... 0.Litigation: Claim-1 (Comminier) was dismissed in AVZ favor by the DRCgovernment ministry of mines, 15% retained by AVZ (high). Claim-2 (Dathomir)partially (10%) dismissed in AVZ favor by the Lubanbashi court of appeals,remaining 5% still in ..



Post-37: ... remaining 5% still in dispute and can besettled for good if AVZ gives $50 million more to Dathomir. Most likely this isin deliberation in the court as AVZ refused to give any more monies but hasretained the undisputed 10% in Claim-2 (medium). ...



Post-38: ... 1.PR13359 transition from exploration to exploitation, aka license to mine(extreme). 2. Bankable feasibility study BFS, made public within a few hours toa couple days after mining license is granted (very high). ...



Post-39: ... 3.DRC-AVZ collaboration agreement (medium). 4. CATH-AVZ TIA completion &prompt money transfer (very high). 5. Li2H / PLS expansion (5 trains) study andrelease of report (high). Note: Catalysts 3, 4 and 5 can occur in anychronological order. ...



Post-40: ... Finalinvestment decision, FID issued (high). 7. First formal, third-party compiled,AVZ ESG report released (medium). 8. DRC grant of special economic zone SEZpermits Monano district critical mineral industry for reduced tax rates(medium). ...



Post-41: ... 9.Establishment of "AVZ Foundation" benefiting Monano+Kitoltodistrict's start of schools, hospitals, green areas, human shelters and foodbanks (medium). Note: Catalysts 7, 8 and 9 can occur in any chronologicalorder. ...



Post-42: ... 10. DRCapproval of hydro power plant (85 km SE) refurbishment for a total of 46 MW(26+20), AVZ has included this expense in its cost (high). 11. Q4-22 CDLresource update for the 15 km drill hole project (high). ...



Post-43: ... 12.Q4-22: Final debt-FDI funding completed most likely from a pan-Africandevelopment bank and also by a consortium led by USA (canter Fitzgerald) and EUbanks in 2023 (very high). ...



Post-44: ... 13.Q2-23: Transport routes to the east port (Angola) and to the west port(Tanzania SGR electric rail to Brundi and then to DRC) contracts finalized withcountry, regional partner governments and port authorities. THIS IS THE LASTPOST. ------------
Thanks Jag, I just finished preparing a similar post - beat me to it lol 🤣. Do you think Neeto could be a professional analyst for one of the other big US fund managers?
 
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JAG

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Not sure. :unsure::unsure:

  1. Joined twitter Aug 22
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Thanks Jag, I just finished preparing a similar post - beat me to it lol 🤣. Do you think Neeto could be a professional analyst for one of the other big US fund managers?
My thinking as well . This dude got the word AVZ is about to awaken from it's slumber imo.
 
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$330 USD at the start of 2023?

Uhhh....
out of here lol GIF
 
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Claim-2 (Dathomir)partially (10%) dismissed in AVZ favor by the Lubanbashi court of appeals,remaining 5% still in dispute and can besettled for good if AVZ gives $50 million more to Dathomir.

So refer to above, for the dathomir case -
  • 10% now is in our favor
  • 5% still in disput
So the 5% is last issue for the ownership dispute, anyone here can provide some more information?
 
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Claim-2 (Dathomir)partially (10%) dismissed in AVZ favor by the Lubanbashi court of appeals,remaining 5% still in dispute and can besettled for good if AVZ gives $50 million more to Dathomir.

So refer to above, for the dathomir case -
  • 10% now is in our favor
  • 5% still in disput
So the 5% is last issue for the ownership dispute, anyone here can provide some more information?
Is that $50 mil on top of what we already gave them ?
 
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Claim-2 (Dathomir)partially (10%) dismissed in AVZ favor by the Lubanbashi court of appeals,remaining 5% still in dispute and can besettled for good if AVZ gives $50 million more to Dathomir.

So refer to above, for the dathomir case -
  • 10% now is in our favor
  • 5% still in disput
So the 5% is last issue for the ownership dispute, anyone here can provide some more information?
All these statements at the end are in regards to upcoming developements/announcements and their relative effect on the share price.
So things that havent happened yet.
 
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Not sure. :unsure::unsure:

  1. Joined twitter Aug 22
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Happy to personally profit should it ever get there, but a random new guy posting what essentially was data from "that spreadsheet" last year isn't something I'm going to believe.

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For me, forget share price - start calculating market cap and divide by 3Billion shares.

Second problem with these "calculations" is you cannot forecast any further out than 2 years. No one, and I mean no one can tell you what revenue, let alone costs will be in 3 years time. It's a guess at best. The entire Lithium industry is too new for anyone to have hard facts and figures.

AVZ will become the benchmark that others will be measured against, but let's be realistic in our journey...

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TC.
 
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Claim-2 (Dathomir)partially (10%) dismissed in AVZ favor by the Lubanbashi court of appeals,remaining 5% still in dispute and can besettled for good if AVZ gives $50 million more to Dathomir.

So refer to above, for the dathomir case -
  • 10% now is in our favor
  • 5% still in disput
So the 5% is last issue for the ownership dispute, anyone here can provide some more information?
Easy

https://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20190624/pdf/4461vgpfykdxbw.pdf

Solved !
 
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My thinking as well . This dude got the word AVZ is about to awaken from it's slumber imo.
Don't get me wrong @JAG @Bin59 and @Wombie, I like this blokes calculations, but you do realise he is homeless don't you?!
 
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Don't bet me wrong @JAG @Bin59 and Wombie, I like this blokes calculations, but you do realise he is homeless don't you?!
What have you got against homeless people?
 
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Don't bet me wrong @JAG @Bin59 and Wombie, I like this blokes calculations, but you do realise he is homeless don't you?!
Maybe a retired broker/fund manager - now a homeless nomad 😊. He’s stated (and provided links to) all his sources of information to support his lengthy analysis.
 
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The issue with 13359's size has been something I've never quite grasped. Does anyone here understand it and could elaborate?

I've read people stating that it's Klaus or AJN responsible for taking the top half away, trying to steal it, if so how could that be possible?
You can't just take it away with brown paper bags, there has to be some kind of argument or reason if they were trying to do so.

As stated in the mining decree announcement by AVZ, they are splitting the tenement in two, the bottom half to be granted a mining licence and the top to become a new separate zone to be granted an exploration permit. I mean.... right? Isn't that what they said? Isn't this exactly what they planned?
In my mind, it didn't dissapear, they just reformed the 13359 area as that is the area AVZ want to mine initially. And a new zone will form the currently blank area, and be granted an exploration permit, until such time AVZ want to mine that too in future years.

They said they were doing this, it was intended.
So what information is out there indicating it's trying to be taken away from AVZ?

Hope someone can clear this up.
I haven't been able to find anything concrete that suggests that any part of Dathcom's 13359 holding was or is under threat from another entity. I think the rumour begun because of AJN's announcement on the 19th of April 2022 (link below) that they were going to receive a number of licenses in the Manono area that had been returned to the public domain.


Also on the 11th of May 2022 it was announced by AJN that Nigel Ferguson had resigned as a director of their company on the 8th of May 2022 (link below). This could have been seen by some as part of the rumoured dispute about 13359.


AVZ's announcement about the decree from the DRC Minister of Mines on the 4th of May 2022 (link below) stated an area in the north of 13359 will be renewed by Dathcom under a 5 year exploration permit. It also said that the terms of the ongoing joint venture were under discussion with the DRC government. This coinciding with the above events is where I believe the idea that AJN were trying to take part of 13359 began to take hold.


I think what has caused the confusion is that most people associate anything to do with Manono as being under the control of AVZ when in fact there are numerous tenements that have various companies in control. Even our good friends Zijin mining attained PE12453 and PE13427 (link below) back in January on the periphery of 13359 through their 70% stake in Katamba mining.


The thing is management seemed happy with the area in the north of 13359 being retained as an exploration permit as nothing was noted in the May 4th announcement as it being a bad thing. We traded for the next 3 days of that week before going into suspension the week after. Possibly something happened in the discussions with the DRC government that the market isn't aware of but it seemed like Dathcom would retain it completely from the announcement.

@obe wan did a great post on this issue on the other forum on the 3rd of September 2022 (which I won't link to because they are crap) which is worth reading. May have also been posted here but I couldn't find it so my apologies for directing traffic there if not needed.

I could be wrong about this and am only basing my opinion on information available in official announcements. Which at the risk of triggering some here may not tell the whole story. If these are just rumours I wouldn't expect to hear anything about it from the company anyway.
 
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Going off memory, the north area has only a couple of drill holes if I recall. By definition this might mean that it shouldn't be "upgraded" beyond exploration, since there is not a resource defined yet. Just a thought.
 
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Do you think Neeto could be a professional analyst for one of the other big US fund managers?

Either that or he's just escaped from an asylum!
 
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Good post Carlos

A couple of points...actually more than a couple
  • the decree from MofM must have stated exactly that - cut off a piece and negotiate with the Government on terms of the remaining PR
  • according to some, the Mining Act prevents that from happening - PR to PE is meant to cover the whole tenement
  • perhaps, after making the announcement , AVZ got advice (from Momentum?) to that effect?
  • regarding the comment from the homeless one stating DATHOMIR 10% is secured, negotiating for the other 5%, firstly, where has that info been published?, secondly, I recall NF saying in an interview with our German friends that DRC will end up with '10 or 15%' - is there some connection? (I don't buy the proposition made by some that it relates to the 8% of AVZ being offered either - too vague)
Please realise I have one foot nailed to the floor, and continue to go round in circles over all this. Deja Vu all over again, I dream about groundhogs, blah blah
 
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