AVZ Discussion 2022

[Soapy]

Having been in this 4 years plus now, my take:
- NF, and other AVZ silent management always promised the world, embellished the facts and never ever met a timeline published.
- all the cheer squad, squashed anyone who questioned missed timelines and other issues, with comments like “if you don’t like it sell”, “l’ll buy your shares”, “last time we see 50c, 75c, $1 etc - time to buy more” and the classic “be patient“.
- was never ever impressed with AVZ management granting themselves every AGM millions of free shares and then with other options and soft targets!
- the non-disclosure by AVZ mgmt of Chinese/ DRC shenanigans over the 12 plus months prior to suspension is a real concern to me “nothing to see here” attitude. If it goes to shit, heads will roll, ASX, hope you are up to speed ??
- Felix after this 3 months of suspension has not officIally come out in support of AVZ. This is not good IMO.
- the ”expert SHs” who have a hot line to “what is happening behind closed doors” have been saying for the last few weeks “not long now until sorted”, “shorters will burn”, “my info, all go next week” etc etc, are full of shit and have NFI - just like me.
- election is coming end of 2023 and corrupt officials along with Chinese government will do everything possible to get Felix out and re-establish the previous modus operandi.

I for one have seen enough, heard enough. I think NF did his best, but he and AVZ have been/ are snookered. We have a 1% chance of all the ducks lining up, Felix stamps out corruption, tells Z/ China to F Off, and AVZ go booming to production and a SP of $5 plus IMO. That is a big gamble.

Anyway, I hope we can get a few things lined up, a T/O or JV with US/ Euro or major AUS organisation and get say $1.50-2, then I will move on by selling two thirds and letting the last third run or fail.

100% I want AVZ to succeed to production, just can’t see it from here, so hoping for a deal to get SHs who want out without losing capital invested that previously hit $1.37. show. Rant over. Good luck

Nellie17 said “we will definitely be hearing great news within the next week” 3 more days to go, I have not lost hope on that one yet

 

[Deleted member 2428]

Hey mate we've all got stories like that . I've lost and made $100s of thousands over the years . I pulled out of a stock I'd been holding for years at a loss that if I'd have held for another 12 months would have given me a $2million + profit . Mate we've all got these stories . AVZ is just another one to add to the list .

Ditto, been up 100’s of thousands and down same and more with many “well researched” penny stocks over 25-30 years of investing (gambling ?), have 3M AVZ in my retirement fund, so been up millions and hope to get out with same or more, would hate AVZ to go to zero, that may be a cliff dive event.

 

[JAG]

I'm sure all of us are feeling like this right now

But you know what, always look on the bright side of life......you only get one .....unless your me

 

[Soapy]

Ditto, been up 100’s of thousands and down same and more with many “well researched” penny stocks over 25-30 years of investing (gambling ?), have 3M AVZ in my retirement fund, so been up millions and hope to get out with same or more, would hate AVZ to go to zero, that may be a cliff div

Ditto, been up 100’s of thousands and down same and more with many “well researched” penny stocks over 25-30 years of investing (gambling ?), have 3M AVZ in my retirement fund, so been up millions and hope to get out with same or more, would hate AVZ to go to zero, that may be a cliff dive event.

3M is not to be sneezed at, I can only see this going to Zero if it’s completely pulled from us. How could this happen? A Gov change and the old boys take back control? Maybe??? Black swan event right there and that’s thinking worst case Scenario.
just remember how many shares NF has!!! I don’t think he would let this go easy with out putting up a solid fight!!
Also remember most LT holders here bought at 4/5c range so selling at 20c is still 3 bags there abouts
Relax, I want more then 20c but that’s my worst case mullings. All in my opinion and just pure speculation until official announcements are released!!

 

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[Deleted member 2428]

3M is not to be sneezed at, I can only see this going to Zero if it’s completely pulled from us. How could this happen? A Gov change and the old boys take back control? Maybe??? Black swan event right there and that’s thinking worst case Scenario.
just remember how many shares NF has!!! I don’t think he would let this go easy with out putting up a solid fight!!
Also remember most LT holders here bought at 4/5c range so selling at 20c is still 3 bags there abouts
Relax, I want more then 20c but that’s my worst case mullings. All in my opinion and just pure speculation until official announcements are released!!

That’s not the point is it? We were in the $1.30 range with an official announcement saying ML decree signed ML expected in days or was it “imminent“. Who would of thought, this is as high as it is going to go $1.37 when the long awaited ML already delayed 1-2-years was a few days away. Every SH thought we are going to way past the $1.30 range towards $2. Then no it all went to shit FFS. And here we are, still in the Where we will be 2022 …

 

[Nellie17]

Nellie17 said “we will definitely be hearing great news within the next week” 3 more days to go, I have not lost hope on that one yet

Cami mess nearly all sorted, and as you said Evieta still three days to go!

 

[Soapy]

That’s not the point is it? We were in the $1.30 range with an official announcement saying ML decree signed ML expected in days or was it “imminent“. Who would of thought, this is as high as it is going to go $1.37 when the long awaited ML already delayed 1-2-years was a few days away. Every SH thought we are going to way past the $1.30 range towards $2. Then no it all went to shit FFS. And here we are, still in the Where we will be 2022 …

I completely get it and no one saw this coming, and thankfully they didn’t otherwise I would hate to see where we would be sitting. It’s been a very long road from golden Easter eggs to FIRB but it’s the ride we chose and we just have to hold on tight and have faith management can pull this one off!!
I have also been here for a very long time and have many Zeros tied up, besides the point but I promise I can feel your frustration. Unfortunately it’s a waiting game and in the mean time TSE is z good place to vent and bounce ideas!!
Evo

 

[Wil_Mar]

: “If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs . . . If you can wait and not be tired by waiting . . .If you can think – and not make thoughts your aim . . If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you . . .Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it.”

 

[MoneyBags1348]

No . What it means is I understand what you and others maybe going through . It's a risk we take . Did you have a good profit available to you before the suspension and didn't take it ?

Was previously sitting on 3 million shares at average of $0.16. Sold looking to buy back at $0.13 but missed the jump after the CR which announced that part of the CR would be used to buy the extra 15%. Got my prediction of CR and price right but gambled they weren’t going to announce the extra % ownership acquisition at the same time so now have the same number of shares at average $0.20 because from memory had to sell some CXO and BRN which I purchased in between. Didn’t want to be trading AVZ, just wanted to lower my average, so yes I would have had a good profit and still have. The thing is that I see AVZ going to $2 in the short term under Felix’s government and really want to hold until producing and at least $5. If we are in the construction phase and it looks like there may be a change of govt in the DRC in late next year’s election, then I would consider selling then. Felix is doing his best to clean up corruption and it’s not an easy job, but AVZ still majority owner in Dathcom and if the worst case scenario happened and Zigin got that last 15% (which seems unlikely to me) I think the share price would still be well north of here for various reasons including they would have to make a financial contribution, it seems to be the only thing that stopped the ML and we would have more money in the bank. I probably sound like a ramper now, like you I have had big profits and big losses and the biggest reason companies go under is because they run out of money and AVZ still has plenty left. AVZ also has legal ownership to a large % of Dathcom and even if the Chinese or anyone else wants it, they are going to have to pay well north of today’s price. Many reasons listed already supporting our position and I think worst case scenarios not as bad as some people make out. Biggest worry I see is for those shareholders who need cash right now

 

[CHB]

Was previously sitting on 3 million shares at average of $0.16. Sold looking to buy back at $0.13 but missed the jump after the CR which announced that part of the CR would be used to buy the extra 15%. Got my prediction of CR and price right but gambled they weren’t going to announce the extra % ownership acquisition at the same time so now have the same number of shares at average $0.20 because from memory had to sell some CXO and BRN which I purchased in between. Didn’t want to be trading AVZ, just wanted to lower my average, so yes I would have had a good profit and still have. The thing is that I see AVZ going to $2 in the short term under Felix’s government and really want to hold until producing and at least $5. If we are in the construction phase and it looks like there may be a change of govt in the DRC in late next year’s election, then I would consider selling then. Felix is doing his best to clean up corruption and it’s not an easy job, but AVZ still majority owner in Dathcom and if the worst case scenario happened and Zigin got that last 15% (which seems unlikely to me) I think the share price would still be well north of here for various reasons including they would have to make a financial contribution, it seems to be the only thing that stopped the ML and we would have more money in the bank. I probably sound like a ramper now, like you I have had big profits and big losses and the biggest reason companies go under is because they run out of money and AVZ still has plenty left. AVZ also has legal ownership to a large % of Dathcom and even if the Chinese or anyone else wants it, they are going to have to pay well north of today’s price. Many reasons listed already supporting our position and I think worst case scenarios not as bad as some people make out. Biggest worry I see is for those shareholders who need cash right now

"If we are in the construction phase and it looks like there may be a change of govt in the DRC in late next year’s election, then I would consider selling then."

This is what I don't get with people saying TO after ML. I mean why?

If we get ML then its BFS and FID and game on. The time to sell the company was before ML not after the hard yards of getting it.

For me the next point for a TO will be prior to the election and if that passes then no TO ever, no point.

 

[CashKing]

Hey mate we've all got stories like that . I've lost and made $100s of thousands over the years . I pulled out of a stock I'd been holding for years at a loss that if I'd have held for another 12 months would have given me a $2million + profit . Mate we've all got these stories . AVZ is just another one to add to the list .

Ahh that reminds me of buying 4c AVZ shares when they went to 10c finally buying more, only to hit 37c and held all the way down, so I decided Na I’ll buy more more more & totally glad I did and held.

I’m saying that yesterday I thought ok either LRS or CRR , I bought CRR yesterday and typical today it’s down & LRS well had a great day….

I totally forgot CRR was the old 4CE except without the Brewer..

Anyway let’s hope AVZ sort it out within the next 2 weeks hey

GLTAH

 

[MoneyBags1348]

"If we are in the construction phase and it looks like there may be a change of govt in the DRC in late next year’s election, then I would consider selling then."

This is what I don't get with people saying TO after ML. I mean why?

If we get ML then its BFS and FID and game on. The time to sell the company was before ML not after the hard yards of getting it.

For me the next point for a TO will be prior to the election and if that passes then no TO ever, no point.

I agree with you, I would only sell if next DRC election it looked like a corrupt government was going to win. We have a pls plant, increasing resource, battery hub and infrastructure all in the planning

 

[CashKing]

I'm sure all of us are feeling like this right now

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But you know what, always look on the bright side of life......you only get one .....unless your me

You’d feel like that everyday driving a KIA RIO

 

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