Frederick Will
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You deserve a lovely red for that post wino. Awesome!
AVZ Discussion 2022
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Chilla
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A few brief things that are really inconsequential for now as ive just got home....but heres a snippetSorry, it would have more accurate to state that I wouldn't get to eat the whole pineapple as bits would need to be cut off and given to others. Can you comment on whether, after tonight, your opinion has changed
1. Had a great night...thanks to Nige and the rest of the AVZ team for giving the opportunity to meet shareholders again after a 32 month absence
2. AVZ shareholders are a very mixed bunch from all walks of life...it was awesome to meet and chat to so many new faces and catch up with a few i had met previously
3. Shout out to all the holders who met at Y&J for a chat and a drink before the preso....must have been at least 20-25 lovely people that were all genuine long term large holders. Great bunch of people.
4. Good presentation by Nige.....as others say nothing much you dont already know but some nuanced background to some of the info.....my feeling is progress definitely being made....COVID border restrictions didnt help AVZ in country with team not able to travel
5. Some robust discussion .... i feel Nige as always answers with best intention but not always to the level that i was seeking...i certainly have more questions that i was not given opportunity to ask....and to be fair to Nige he took questions from all over the audience and shared it around....so everyone was given an opportunity to ask what they wanted.....i just had soooo many to ask i felt short changed.....hoping i can follow up on many in coming days.
6. Thanks to Greg the heckler from the back for giving me a hard time when i was putting a few questions up....he made up for it later though and shouted me a beer..... and what happens in the bar afterwards stays in the bar...right guys...you know who you are
7. I have to say that everyone i chatted to tonight were really decent genuine people who want nothing but the best for this company.
8. Lets see where we go in the next few weeks...Tim will tell
Winenut
GO AVZ!!!!
Appreciate that Ox and thank you very much
But what we saw from the Perth RS and what we've seen since doesn't seem to be any real additional news that we hadn't already managed to scrounge ourselves
Maybe you got answers to the hard questions like:
- What is the real status of PR 13359 and the carved out parts apparently subject to a new PR and JV
- Why the ML hasn't been issued despite the ministerial decree half a year ago
- Why the surface rights calc hasn't been made public and paid
- Why CAMI cut up PR 13359, who was responsible and what was the rationale behind the decision
- Why we now have to "negotiate" with crooks over parts of our original tenement
- Why we are potentially losing much of Malata, Kahungwe and a big slab of CDL
- Why Princess Bitchface is a barrier in the machinery and why is that allowed to continue
- Why Mupande still retains his position
- Why the findings of the IGF investigation are competely ignored and does that mean it's a fucking useless and impotent mechansism
- What's the status of any agreement or MOU or even a fucking chat on the Hydro Power
- Why Klaus and co or any other bastard can now appropriate parts of the original PR 13359 for no apparent compensation
I'm sure some of these questions got asked/addressed????
If not we've only got a few more opportunities via the remaining roadshows and AGM
CashKing
Regular
Ffs
Like a weekish or has she got a few years in her
Please send smoke signals
GLTAH
Thank you for your those very kind words my Friend
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It was a pleasure to meet another long suffering shareholder or two for the first time tonight
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What can i say about the RS - Not much atm, I'm Tired and need to go
But the Chocolate Chip Cookies were Delicious
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Food for thought
Cookies
Frank
FFS FRANK , Ok let’s say how many more Kms can the old gal do ?Thank you for your those very kind words my Friend
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It was a pleasure to meet another long suffering shareholder or two for the first time tonight
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What can i say about the RS - Not much atm, I'm Tired and need to go
But the Chocolate Chip Cookies were Delicious
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Food for thought
Cookies
Frank
Like a weekish or has she got a few years in her
Please send smoke signals GLTAH
Y
Your paragraph starting with "seriously" basically somes up the rs. And you didn't have to sit through it. So your well in front of cheers.
Chilla
Regular
Until 4 May 2022 i will have you know i looked young, handsome and had a full head of brown hair.........unfortunately none of that is no longer accurateYes.
I can also confirm that most Melbourne shareholders are pretty old and not very good looking.
John25
Regular
Samus
Top 20
Winenut
GO AVZ!!!!
You know I'm actually a pretty reasonable, open minded, level headed, patient, considerate, articulate kinda guy!
With a very occassional penchant for completely losing my shit!!!.....bahahaaahaaa!!
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The Fox
Regular
A few brief things that are really inconsequential for now as ive just got home....but heres a snippet
1. Had a great night...thanks to Nige and the rest of the AVZ team for giving the opportunity to meet shareholders again after a 32 month absence
2. AVZ shareholders are a very mixed bunch from all walks of life...it was awesome to meet and chat to so many new faces and catch up with a few i had met previously
3. Shout out to all the holders who met at Y&J for a chat and a drink before the preso....must have been at least 20-25 lovely people that were all genuine long term large holders. Great bunch of people.
4. Good presentation by Nige.....as others say nothing much you dont already know but some nuanced background to some of the info.....my feeling is progress definitely being made....COVID border restrictions didnt help AVZ in country with team not able to travel
5. Some robust discussion .... i feel Nige as always answers with best intention but not always to the level that i was seeking...i certainly have more questions that i was not given opportunity to ask....and to be fair to Nige he took questions from all over the audience and shared it around....so everyone was given an opportunity to ask what they wanted.....i just had soooo many to ask i felt short changed.....hoping i can follow up on many in coming days.
6. Thanks to Greg the heckler from the back for giving me a hard time when i was putting a few questions up....he made up for it later though and shouted me a beer..... and what happens in the bar afterwards stays in the bar...right guys...you know who you are
7. I have to say that everyone i chatted to tonight were really decent genuine people who want nothing but the best for this company.
8. Lets see where we go in the next few weeks...Tim will tell
But thanks anyway
Chilla
Regular
Just the weigh in tonight remember....bell hasnt rung for round 1 yet....though the discussion was robust and respectful
Bin59
Regular
A more detailed article of what’s happening in DRC while we sit and wait for things to get sorted in our favour :
www.forumdesas.net
Two caucuses of deputies from Tanganyika and Haut-Lomami exchanged with the Minister of State, Minister of the Portfolio,
Adèle Kanyinda yesterday Monday, November 07 in the meeting room of the said ministry. On the menu of these interviews is the file of both the lithium operation and the factory to manufacture the batteries using this ore. The boss of the Portfolio was all eyes, ears to respond to the concerns of the elected officials of Greater Katanga. Who returned very satisfied at the end of this meeting, according to Emmanuel Nyembo Kahumba, spokesman for the deputies.
For the president of the Grand caucus of all four provinces, the populations of the Tanganyika and Haut-Lomami provinces want to see clearly on the issue of lithium ore whose exploitation will lead to the manufacture of batteries that will be used for electric cars.
Lithium is found in the territories of Moba, Manono, Nyunzu, Kongolo, Mitwaba, Malemba and Bukama, the head of the delegation of these four Caucuses listed.
"In Manono and Malemba, there is already an on-site farm. If we rose as one person, it was because our populations spoke, reacted to what the Minister of Industry told the opinion that the government laid the first stone in the Sakania territory for the lithium extraction industry, "said the president of the Grand Caucus of all four provinces.
The populations of these two provinces reacted by hoping that the production chain be established in northern Katanga, believing that southern Katanga has been sufficiently industrialized.
AVZ COMPANY
In addition, representatives of the populations of Greater Katanga mentioned the presence of the AVZ company, which has already completed its feasibility study and that it is in the process of transforming its research permit into an operating permit and that it would even be in possession of its operating permit.
In addition, the national deputies from Greater Katangala also told Minister Adèle that the Ministry of Mines service received a letter of opposition from the Cominière company not to transform the expolitation permit because the Cominière, who is the representative of the State in this part, found that the AVZ company included the Mpianamuanga dam. Also, in the session, the deputies asked her to remove this dam that does not belong to her.
The Caucus of the deputies of Tanganyika and Haut-Lomami wondered why the government rushed to lay the foundation stone of the battery manufacturing plant.
As for this dam, the elected officials of Greater Katanga have noted, its current pitiful state requires several years to rehabilitate it.
THE COMINARY FOUND IN A PITIOUS STATE
In her response, the Minister of State, Minister of the Portfolio, who followed very carefully the concerns of the populations of these two provinces through the voice of their representatives, was very concrete, responding point by point to their concerns. She said she found, on her arrival at this ministry, a Cominière company in a deplorable state. So he had to start by organizing it. And today, she has signed several partnership contracts with several companies.
As for the AVZ, the boss of state companies has painted a dark picture of it. It is a society created in confusion and confusion maintained purposely, according to Adèle Kayinda. She did not mince words to show her interlocutors her nebulous character, sometimes calling herself AVZ Mineral, sometimes AVZ International. What is the action that AVZ has already carried out in Manono? Does she even have a spade? She wondered, believing that she does not know how to go to a fuzzy partner. A company that has no background in mining. Because of the presence of this company, the Cominière is deprived of its rights that the boss of state companies has committed to return to it.
AVS INTERNATIONAL IN PROCESS AGAINST DATHOMIR SARLU
And according to a press release from the Ministry of the Portfolio, AVZ International PTV LTD had legal disputes with Dathomir Sarlu. At the heart of this dispute, two share sales contracts reached in June 2019 and August 2020 AVZ International acquired 15% of Dathcom Mining shares held by Dathomir Mining Resources Sarlu at a price of $21 million. But, towards the end of the year 202, a stock market announcement by AVZ revealed an agreement to sell its own 24% shares in Dathcom Mining SA to Cath Energy at a price of $240 million.
Faced with this strong disproportion between the two prices, Dathomir asked, by his letter of December 31, 2020, to evaluate his 15% of shares in order to protect himself from possible risks of injury and even major tax adjustments. However, AVZ's refusal led to the termination of contracts on May 14, 2021.
But with the help of fraud, the CEO of Dathcom obtained from the main clerk of the Single Business Creation Desk, Lubumbashi branch, a certificate of shares and a register of partners of Dathcom Mining SA dated August 31 and September 1, 2021, according to which AVZ International became the holder of 75% of Dathcom Mining shares, i.e. the 15% of Dathom
A VERY COMMITTED PLEA
Quoted by Dathomir Mining Resources SARLU before the TGI/Lubumbashi, the CEO of Dathcom Mining SA, the Chief Registrar of the Single Business Creation Desk and the civilly responsible Dathcom Mining were sentenced respectively to 3 years of main criminal servitude firm, 1 year of suspended SPP and $50 million as DI.
For the Ministry of Portfolio, representing the interests of the State, the share capital of Dathcom Mining is distributed as follows: AVZ International 60% instead of 75%; Dathomir Mining Resource SARLU: 15% and Cominière: 25 of which 15% sold to Zijing and 5% MMCS.
Adèle Kayinda reassured her interlocutors that her ministry has taken the decision to take over and work with them to support the Cominière. She felt a very committed plea among her interlocutors in favor of those they represent, that is, the populations.
Regarding the issue of laying the first stone in Sakania; she promised to consult with her colleagues in Industry and Mines.
It should be noted that this meeting of deputies from Greater Katanga comes after the meeting with the Minister of Industry.
Kléber KUNGU
Adèle Kayinda satisfait ses interlocuteurs sur le dossier du lithium du Grand Katanga
Deux caucus des députés du Tanganyika et du Haut-Lomami ont échangé avec la ministre d’Etat, ministre du Portefeuille, Adèle Kanyinda hier lundi 07 novembre dans la salle de réunions du…
www.forumdesas.net
Adèle Kayinda satisfies her interlocutors on the lithium file in Greater Katanga
Two caucuses of deputies from Tanganyika and Haut-Lomami exchanged with the Minister of State, Minister of the Portfolio,
Adèle Kanyinda yesterday Monday, November 07 in the meeting room of the said ministry. On the menu of these interviews is the file of both the lithium operation and the factory to manufacture the batteries using this ore. The boss of the Portfolio was all eyes, ears to respond to the concerns of the elected officials of Greater Katanga. Who returned very satisfied at the end of this meeting, according to Emmanuel Nyembo Kahumba, spokesman for the deputies.
For the president of the Grand caucus of all four provinces, the populations of the Tanganyika and Haut-Lomami provinces want to see clearly on the issue of lithium ore whose exploitation will lead to the manufacture of batteries that will be used for electric cars.
Lithium is found in the territories of Moba, Manono, Nyunzu, Kongolo, Mitwaba, Malemba and Bukama, the head of the delegation of these four Caucuses listed.
"In Manono and Malemba, there is already an on-site farm. If we rose as one person, it was because our populations spoke, reacted to what the Minister of Industry told the opinion that the government laid the first stone in the Sakania territory for the lithium extraction industry, "said the president of the Grand Caucus of all four provinces.
The populations of these two provinces reacted by hoping that the production chain be established in northern Katanga, believing that southern Katanga has been sufficiently industrialized.
AVZ COMPANY
In addition, representatives of the populations of Greater Katanga mentioned the presence of the AVZ company, which has already completed its feasibility study and that it is in the process of transforming its research permit into an operating permit and that it would even be in possession of its operating permit.
In addition, the national deputies from Greater Katangala also told Minister Adèle that the Ministry of Mines service received a letter of opposition from the Cominière company not to transform the expolitation permit because the Cominière, who is the representative of the State in this part, found that the AVZ company included the Mpianamuanga dam. Also, in the session, the deputies asked her to remove this dam that does not belong to her.
The Caucus of the deputies of Tanganyika and Haut-Lomami wondered why the government rushed to lay the foundation stone of the battery manufacturing plant.
As for this dam, the elected officials of Greater Katanga have noted, its current pitiful state requires several years to rehabilitate it.
THE COMINARY FOUND IN A PITIOUS STATE
In her response, the Minister of State, Minister of the Portfolio, who followed very carefully the concerns of the populations of these two provinces through the voice of their representatives, was very concrete, responding point by point to their concerns. She said she found, on her arrival at this ministry, a Cominière company in a deplorable state. So he had to start by organizing it. And today, she has signed several partnership contracts with several companies.
As for the AVZ, the boss of state companies has painted a dark picture of it. It is a society created in confusion and confusion maintained purposely, according to Adèle Kayinda. She did not mince words to show her interlocutors her nebulous character, sometimes calling herself AVZ Mineral, sometimes AVZ International. What is the action that AVZ has already carried out in Manono? Does she even have a spade? She wondered, believing that she does not know how to go to a fuzzy partner. A company that has no background in mining. Because of the presence of this company, the Cominière is deprived of its rights that the boss of state companies has committed to return to it.
AVS INTERNATIONAL IN PROCESS AGAINST DATHOMIR SARLU
And according to a press release from the Ministry of the Portfolio, AVZ International PTV LTD had legal disputes with Dathomir Sarlu. At the heart of this dispute, two share sales contracts reached in June 2019 and August 2020 AVZ International acquired 15% of Dathcom Mining shares held by Dathomir Mining Resources Sarlu at a price of $21 million. But, towards the end of the year 202, a stock market announcement by AVZ revealed an agreement to sell its own 24% shares in Dathcom Mining SA to Cath Energy at a price of $240 million.
Faced with this strong disproportion between the two prices, Dathomir asked, by his letter of December 31, 2020, to evaluate his 15% of shares in order to protect himself from possible risks of injury and even major tax adjustments. However, AVZ's refusal led to the termination of contracts on May 14, 2021.
But with the help of fraud, the CEO of Dathcom obtained from the main clerk of the Single Business Creation Desk, Lubumbashi branch, a certificate of shares and a register of partners of Dathcom Mining SA dated August 31 and September 1, 2021, according to which AVZ International became the holder of 75% of Dathcom Mining shares, i.e. the 15% of Dathom
A VERY COMMITTED PLEA
Quoted by Dathomir Mining Resources SARLU before the TGI/Lubumbashi, the CEO of Dathcom Mining SA, the Chief Registrar of the Single Business Creation Desk and the civilly responsible Dathcom Mining were sentenced respectively to 3 years of main criminal servitude firm, 1 year of suspended SPP and $50 million as DI.
For the Ministry of Portfolio, representing the interests of the State, the share capital of Dathcom Mining is distributed as follows: AVZ International 60% instead of 75%; Dathomir Mining Resource SARLU: 15% and Cominière: 25 of which 15% sold to Zijing and 5% MMCS.
Adèle Kayinda reassured her interlocutors that her ministry has taken the decision to take over and work with them to support the Cominière. She felt a very committed plea among her interlocutors in favor of those they represent, that is, the populations.
Regarding the issue of laying the first stone in Sakania; she promised to consult with her colleagues in Industry and Mines.
It should be noted that this meeting of deputies from Greater Katanga comes after the meeting with the Minister of Industry.
Kléber KUNGU
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The silence from AVZ when these articles come out is frustrating. Roadshows or not.A more detailed article of what’s happening in DRC while we sit and wait for things to get sorted in our favour :
Adèle Kayinda satisfait ses interlocuteurs sur le dossier du lithium du Grand Katanga
Deux caucus des députés du Tanganyika et du Haut-Lomami ont échangé avec la ministre d’Etat, ministre du Portefeuille, Adèle Kanyinda hier lundi 07 novembre dans la salle de réunions du…
Adèle Kayinda satisfies her interlocutors on the lithium file in Greater Katanga
Two caucuses of deputies from Tanganyika and Haut-Lomami exchanged with the Minister of State, Minister of the Portfolio,
Adèle Kanyinda yesterday Monday, November 07 in the meeting room of the said ministry. On the menu of these interviews is the file of both the lithium operation and the factory to manufacture the batteries using this ore. The boss of the Portfolio was all eyes, ears to respond to the concerns of the elected officials of Greater Katanga. Who returned very satisfied at the end of this meeting, according to Emmanuel Nyembo Kahumba, spokesman for the deputies.
For the president of the Grand caucus of all four provinces, the populations of the Tanganyika and Haut-Lomami provinces want to see clearly on the issue of lithium ore whose exploitation will lead to the manufacture of batteries that will be used for electric cars.
Lithium is found in the territories of Moba, Manono, Nyunzu, Kongolo, Mitwaba, Malemba and Bukama, the head of the delegation of these four Caucuses listed.
"In Manono and Malemba, there is already an on-site farm. If we rose as one person, it was because our populations spoke, reacted to what the Minister of Industry told the opinion that the government laid the first stone in the Sakania territory for the lithium extraction industry, "said the president of the Grand Caucus of all four provinces.
The populations of these two provinces reacted by hoping that the production chain be established in northern Katanga, believing that southern Katanga has been sufficiently industrialized.
AVZ COMPANY
In addition, representatives of the populations of Greater Katanga mentioned the presence of the AVZ company, which has already completed its feasibility study and that it is in the process of transforming its research permit into an operating permit and that it would even be in possession of its operating permit.
In addition, the national deputies from Greater Katangala also told Minister Adèle that the Ministry of Mines service received a letter of opposition from the Cominière company not to transform the expolitation permit because the Cominière, who is the representative of the State in this part, found that the AVZ company included the Mpianamuanga dam. Also, in the session, the deputies asked her to remove this dam that does not belong to her.
The Caucus of the deputies of Tanganyika and Haut-Lomami wondered why the government rushed to lay the foundation stone of the battery manufacturing plant.
As for this dam, the elected officials of Greater Katanga have noted, its current pitiful state requires several years to rehabilitate it.
THE COMINARY FOUND IN A PITIOUS STATE
In her response, the Minister of State, Minister of the Portfolio, who followed very carefully the concerns of the populations of these two provinces through the voice of their representatives, was very concrete, responding point by point to their concerns. She said she found, on her arrival at this ministry, a Cominière company in a deplorable state. So he had to start by organizing it. And today, she has signed several partnership contracts with several companies.
As for the AVZ, the boss of state companies has painted a dark picture of it. It is a society created in confusion and confusion maintained purposely, according to Adèle Kayinda. She did not mince words to show her interlocutors her nebulous character, sometimes calling herself AVZ Mineral, sometimes AVZ International. What is the action that AVZ has already carried out in Manono? Does she even have a spade? She wondered, believing that she does not know how to go to a fuzzy partner. A company that has no background in mining. Because of the presence of this company, the Cominière is deprived of its rights that the boss of state companies has committed to return to it.
AVS INTERNATIONAL IN PROCESS AGAINST DATHOMIR SARLU
And according to a press release from the Ministry of the Portfolio, AVZ International PTV LTD had legal disputes with Dathomir Sarlu. At the heart of this dispute, two share sales contracts reached in June 2019 and August 2020 AVZ International acquired 15% of Dathcom Mining shares held by Dathomir Mining Resources Sarlu at a price of $21 million. But, towards the end of the year 202, a stock market announcement by AVZ revealed an agreement to sell its own 24% shares in Dathcom Mining SA to Cath Energy at a price of $240 million.
Faced with this strong disproportion between the two prices, Dathomir asked, by his letter of December 31, 2020, to evaluate his 15% of shares in order to protect himself from possible risks of injury and even major tax adjustments. However, AVZ's refusal led to the termination of contracts on May 14, 2021.
But with the help of fraud, the CEO of Dathcom obtained from the main clerk of the Single Business Creation Desk, Lubumbashi branch, a certificate of shares and a register of partners of Dathcom Mining SA dated August 31 and September 1, 2021, according to which AVZ International became the holder of 75% of Dathcom Mining shares, i.e. the 15% of Dathom
A VERY COMMITTED PLEA
Quoted by Dathomir Mining Resources SARLU before the TGI/Lubumbashi, the CEO of Dathcom Mining SA, the Chief Registrar of the Single Business Creation Desk and the civilly responsible Dathcom Mining were sentenced respectively to 3 years of main criminal servitude firm, 1 year of suspended SPP and $50 million as DI.
For the Ministry of Portfolio, representing the interests of the State, the share capital of Dathcom Mining is distributed as follows: AVZ International 60% instead of 75%; Dathomir Mining Resource SARLU: 15% and Cominière: 25 of which 15% sold to Zijing and 5% MMCS.
Adèle Kayinda reassured her interlocutors that her ministry has taken the decision to take over and work with them to support the Cominière. She felt a very committed plea among her interlocutors in favor of those they represent, that is, the populations.
Regarding the issue of laying the first stone in Sakania; she promised to consult with her colleagues in Industry and Mines.
It should be noted that this meeting of deputies from Greater Katanga comes after the meeting with the Minister of Industry.
Kléber KUNGU
Here we have Minister of Mines being directly quoted saying AVZ don’t have what they think they have and yet we won’t see a response from AVZ.
Article also mentions the court case where I’m guessing the references is Graeme copping 3 years in the bin yet no announcement.
Who the fuck knows who to believe.
Is AVZ being told to just remain silent by someone on the ground in DRC? Should they seek a second opinion on that?
All ramblings of a frustrated shareholder.
Edit: They acknowledging Zijin have 15% still ffs!
You have lost the plot mate. If Nigel felt like it was a lost battle, he would have left the company by now. Just for your reference, Nigel has been working relentlessly for the last 6 months in the DRC on ground and only managed to spend 3 weeks with his family. Give the man some credit!
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I say this but they would have to prove it and I don't think they can. We were issued a ministerial decree which in itself is evidence of the fact that AVZ has done what is required for a license to be issued.
Skidmark Klaus, wipe your chin
Sammy_da_Smile
Regular
Dumb and Dummer right here lol
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