AVZ Discussion 2022

[Samus]

Thanks for quick reply guys. That should then be a 'simple' case of follow the money to prove ownership.....

"should" being the operative word here, there is no doubt whatsoever that the money was paid and the deal was done. It's what allgegdly came afterwards is the problem, I'll not go into details for the umpteenth time but my personal opinion is that this is why it's imperative that the supposed court ruling for Dathomir be overturned and above all else. Otherwise how can anybody maintain trust in the congolese judicial system moving forward? Sure it's BS, its BS 100 times over but it's probably the most important aspect of the whole shemozzle. imo.
I'm suprised it's taken this long and hoping the current appeal is actually to finally address it.

 

[Retrobyte]

Not sure why the Judge needs 2 days to deliberate however .

Not unusual at all for judges to take time after a hearing to deliberate - much of that time is spend writing/dictating their judgement so it can be typed up and released when the decision is handed down. This happens in Australia all the time, in every jurisdiction.

 

[Mickyb64]

Took the cap on holiday to Cairns. Hoping for some good news to celebrate while I'm away. GLTAH.

 

[Mickyb64]

Took the cap on holiday to Cairns. Hoping for some good news to celebrate while I'm away. GLTAH.

@Winenut enjoying a fantastic 6 foot 6 Pinot Gris from our favorite Geelong winery Austins.

 

[Bin59]

May I please know the source of this information? Thank you.

I also thought the Minister of Portfolio (Princess Kayinda) had been kicked out - however as seen in the recent photo below she still appears to have a job

 

[MoneyBags1348]

May I please know the source of this information? Thank you.

Solo, your question has two parts, as I’ve said I don’t want to spend time on these threads, but I’ve attached a Link where the IGF accuses Adele Kayinda of complicity in regard to Cominiere’s selling to Zigin. I admit, I think from memory the sacking of Kayinda was said through twitter posts on these threads from sources I believe are reliable along with photos of her at the recent meeting of ministers where she has a ‘Visitor’s’ tag on her dress. The MoM (Antoinette) I believe instructs CAMI and my previous research found the Finance Minister also instructs CAMI. Hope you can follow up on theses because if I spend more time here I’m either going to start making sarcastic comments again or swearing my fucken head off again. Anything you can dig up will no doubt be appreciated https://exclusifrdc.com/le-bradage-...-sest-fait-avec-la-complicite-dadele-kayinda/

 

[wombat74]

"should" being the operative word here, there is no doubt whatsoever that the money was paid and the deal was done. It's what allgegdly came afterwards is the problem, I'll not go into details for the umpteenth time but my personal opinion is that this is why it's imperative that the supposed court ruling for Dathomir be overturned and above all else. Otherwise how can anybody maintain trust in the congolese judicial system moving forward? Sure it's BS, its BS 100 times over but it's probably the most important aspect of the whole shemozzle. imo.
I'm suprised it's taken this long and hoping the current appeal is actually to finally address it.

I see this as a must win . IMO

 

[JAG]

 

[JAG]

 

[solo]

Solo, your question has two parts, as I’ve said I don’t want to spend time on these threads, but I’ve attached a Link where the IGF accuses Adele Kayinda of complicity in regard to Cominiere’s selling to Zigin. I admit I think, from memory the sacking of Kayinda was said through twitter posts on these threads from sources I believe are reliable along with photos of her at the recent meeting of ministers where she has a ‘Visitor’s’ tag on her dress. The MoM (Antoinette) I believe instructs CAMI and my previous research found the Finance Minister also instructs CAMI. Hope you can follow up on theses because if I spend more time here I’m either going to start making sarcastic comments again or swearing my fucken head off again. Anything you can dig up will no doubt be appreciated https://exclusifrdc.com/le-bradage-...-sest-fait-avec-la-complicite-dadele-kayinda/

Yes, IGF accused princess of complicity but I have not seen any news (yet) that she was kicked out. Twitter posts that you've seen and that were shared here are from AVZ shareholders and I have no idea where they get this information. If you watch recent meeting of ministers then you will see that 90% of all the people around the table had the same "V" tag attached. "Visitors" was a twitter joke made by one of the local posters (good one I have to admit). "The MoM (Antoinette) I believe instructs CAMI" - maybe in perfect world. In reality head of Cami does not really give a fuck what Mom says or does..

 

[Xerof]

Solo, your question has two parts, as I’ve said I don’t want to spend time on these threads, but I’ve attached a Link where the IGF accuses Adele Kayinda of complicity in regard to Cominiere’s selling to Zigin. I admit I think, from memory the sacking of Kayinda was said through twitter posts on these threads from sources I believe are reliable along with photos of her at the recent meeting of ministers where she has a ‘Visitor’s’ tag on her dress. The MoM (Antoinette) I believe instructs CAMI and my previous research found the Finance Minister also instructs CAMI. Hope you can follow up on theses because if I spend more time here I’m either going to start making sarcastic comments again or swearing my fucken head off again. Anything you can dig up will no doubt be appreciated https://exclusifrdc.com/le-bradage-...-sest-fait-avec-la-complicite-dadele-kayinda/

Hey Bags, pleased to see you are persevering.

Has Princess bitchface gone? IMO, not yet. This tweet posted by our lawyers has been misinterpreted IMO. I think they were saying Zijin, on their way out, had a meeting with MoM and MoP.

Secondly, Felix is reported as wanting to make changes to Ministerial positions in coming weeks

AFRICA TIME

 

[Winenut]

@Winenut enjoying a fantastic 6 foot 6 Pinot Gris from our favorite Geelong winery Austins.

Noticed the white in hand and wondered what it was

Gotta love a good Pinot Gris!

Salute

 

[9cardomaha]

Pretty sure its under investigation by Jules from all my reading?

So before the princess and CAMI head GTFO there needs to be that process (all aligned with Felix's overarching transparency and doing things properly)

As a side note, anyone have the full IGF report on Cominiere? only seen the media report from DRC media and then snippets on the bird.

Inspection Générale de Finance

igf.gouv.cd

This one only has the gecamines but i assume the cominiere one is similar and just as damning for JZ

 

[Deleted member 2428]

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Hey Bags, pleased to see you are persevering.

Has Princess bitchface gone? IMO, not yet. This tweet posted by our lawyers has been misinterpreted IMO. I think they were saying Zijin, on their way out, had a meeting with MoM and MoP.

Secondly, Felix is reported as wanting to make changes to Ministerial positions in coming weeks

AFRICA TIME

My gut feeling given past history, DRC time etc Is that we are still about a month away from resolution. There is no way NF is going to put AVZ out of suspension until all the “i’s” are dotted and the”t’s” crossed. Just too, too risky to open up without each and every “duck lined up”.
Hate waiting, but best we open only with “all guns firing”.
Let us wait until EO September if that’s what it takes to get this Shit Show, back on the road to recovery $2 plus on open, soon after is what we want for AVZ 🫡

 

[9cardomaha]

See the highlight saying that its just charges being laid - the bottom half is assumption but no smoke without fire.

 

[wombat74]

Took the cap on holiday to Cairns. Hoping for some good news to celebrate while I'm away. GLTAH.

Staying on the Esplanade by the looks . Top stop . Great French Restaurant "Ces't Bon" in Lake Street . Been in business for over 20 years . Beautiful food . Excellent service .

 

[JAG]

 

[solo]

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See the highlight saying that its just charges being laid - the bottom half is assumption but no smoke without fire.

You will be surprised but "charges being laid" is also an assumption of this particular poster. But as you said.. no smoke without fire.

 

[Bin59]

 

[9cardomaha]

taking it with this much salt until otherwise corroborated.