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BTW the above swimsuit image came with the report.🥶
 
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Hi Jag,
Thanks for all the updates from the Twitterverse. I have one request - could you please post the links to the Tweets with the screenshots as it would make it easier to find the threads.

I think we're through the worst of the crap (until the Chinese crank up the BS just before we start trading again!) & I'm feeling positive for the first time in a loooong time.
 
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Anthony Blinken received by Felix Tshisekedi

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The American Secretary of State Anthony Blinken exchanged this Tuesday, August 09 at the Presidential Palace of Mont Ngaliema with the Head of State Félix Antoine Tshisekedi Tshilombo.

The two personalities discussed in French, for nearly an hour, on several issues, before extending the exchanges into an enlarged bilateral meeting.

According to the presidential press, the Head of State Tshisekedi was surrounded by Deputy Prime Ministers Christophe Lutundula of Foreign Affairs and Eve Bazaiba of the Environment, but also Ministers of Finance, Defense as well as that of Communication and media.

This, like the Special Representative of the Head of State Serge Tshibangu, the Special Advisor to the Head of State in matters of security Jean-Claude Bukasa and the Special Advisors Jean-claude Kabongo and Fortunat Bisielele.

The American part was composed, among others, of the Under-Secretary of State for Economic Growth, Energy and the Environment José Fernandez, the Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs Molly Phee and the Principal Director of the National Security Council for the Africa Judd Devermond.

The American Secretary of State will give a press briefing to deliver the meaning of the exchanges with the President of the DRC.

A synergy of 17 Congolese and American organizations, pro-democracy movements and personalities sent a letter to the US State Department asking the Secretary of State to focus on elections, repression, corruption and endemic violence in the east of the country.

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I absolutely agree @Dazmac66. Accepting a TO from a Chinese company will be perceived as more weakness from Australia and Australian based companies. They will realise if they cause a little trouble with the local gov, send a few snacks to a few people and post some bull$h!t on twitter then Oz based companies will panic and just give up.

I want AVZ to fight until the bitter end. Yes there is a chance we may loose but the odds are in our favour and the chance of success is a greater.

TO is off the table for me. I will be voting against, if this ever is proposed.

Worst case scenario we dont sell to CATH and keep %75 ownership, DRC get their 10% and the Dath/Zin %15 can be sorted by the DRC corruption watch dog. The way the market in Lithium is right now we could cap raise 300 million from a mix of strategic investors and retail. I would happily buy more.

IMO GLTAH

Who said anything about a TO from a Chinese company? FYI you won’t be able to vote on any potential sale by AVZ of its Dathcom shares, whether this happens at 100% or a lessor percentage just to let you know.

Fighting to the end and worse case scenarios doesn’t sound what you might say, “commercially strategic”.

If I had a choice in the matter I would see AVZ sell 100% (or continue to hold a 10% free carry) of its ownership of the Roche Dure tenement for say $4B, provide a special dividend to AVZ shareholders of approx $1.20 or more then with balance of funds held by AVZ prove up Carriere de I’Este and just do it all again, and while picking up a couple of other sites either here in Australia or the DRC to diversify.

On the above example I’d expect with AVZ holding approx $500M in the bank, say 10% of Dathcom, 100% of the surrounding Manono leases (already held) and Carriere de I’Este and AVZ power making dollars charging for the electricity to mining sites and town the share price would be approximately 40 cents, maybe more IMO of course. (Or flip this all around and sell Carriere de I’Este for $1B with 100% off take locked in and move forward with Roche Dure with no debt or need to take on equity parters Chinese or otherwise, just a thought)

FYI the Carriere de l’Este Pegmatite, has a mapped length of about 5,500m, and is potentially the largest pegmatite in the Manono Project and potentially the highest grade.

Fight to the death or bitter end, winner take all is good when your back is against the wall, however I believe AVZ is well in front of everything and is gradually winning its bouts with the various corrupt parties it encounters so to that end this is all a game of strategy more like chess then a punch up.

The strategy is to protect, retain or monetise assets to make the most dollars for shareholders, nothing else really matters. If the best outcome for shareholders (immediate and long term) is for some type of TO so be it.

I see a full or partial TO as an absolute win for shareholders (if completed on favourable terms of course.)

Unfortunately, I don’t think there is a high chance of a TO of AVZ’s interests in Dathcom at this time. Although I certainly do hope it happens now and it’s based on a similar outcome / structure to what I described above.

In any event, I would not dismiss the “Opportunity” of a TO so readily when there are Take Overs and there are Take Overs, any outcome that is of great financial benefit and reward to AVZ shareholders is welcome IMO.

As suggested in a previous post, seems this week is turning out to be very interesting indeed.

Regarding coming out of suspension, from what I hear it’s unlikely this week, apparently everything is all sorted in favour of AVZ which is great news, yet there are still various processes and documents to complete / finalise to support coming out of suspension. It all might be completed and written up in the next few days but sounded unlikely. As always, we shall see what the tide brings in tomorrow, and the next day and so on and so on…….

Cheers The Fox 🦊
 
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Hmmmmmmmm :cautious:

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Forgive me if this has been answered (its been a while since I had a big read back through the thread, but have the $33m mentioned here actually been PAID to Cominiere, or is the money yet to change hands and its simply an agreement at that value?
 
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Who said anything about a TO from a Chinese company? FYI you won’t be able to vote on any potential sale by AVZ of its Dathcom shares, whether this happens at 100% or a lessor percentage just to let you know.

Fighting to the end and worse case scenarios doesn’t sound what you might say, “commercially strategic”.

If I had a choice in the matter I would see AVZ sell 100% (or continue to hold a 10% free carry) of its ownership of the Roche Dure tenement for say $4B, provide a special dividend to AVZ shareholders of approx $1.20 or more then with balance of funds held by AVZ prove up Carriere de I’Este and just do it all again, and while picking up a couple of other sites either here in Australia or the DRC to diversify.

On the above example I’d expect with AVZ holding approx $500M in the bank, say 10% of Dathcom, 100% of the surrounding Manono leases (already held) and Carriere de I’Este and AVZ power making dollars charging for the electricity to mining sites and town the share price would be approximately 40 cents, maybe more IMO of course. (Or flip this all around and sell Carriere de I’Este for $1B with 100% off take locked in and move forward with Roche Dure with no debt or need to take on equity parters Chinese or otherwise, just a thought)

FYI the Carriere de l’Este Pegmatite, has a mapped length of about 5,500m, and is potentially the largest pegmatite in the Manono Project and potentially the highest grade.

Fight to the death or bitter end, winner take all is good when your back is against the wall, however I believe AVZ is well in front of everything and is gradually winning its bouts with the various corrupt parties it encounters so to that end this is all a game of strategy more like chess then a punch up.

The strategy is to protect, retain or monetise assets to make the most dollars for shareholders, nothing else really matters. If the best outcome for shareholders (immediate and long term) is for some type of TO so be it.

I see a full or partial TO as an absolute win for shareholders (if completed on favourable terms of course.)

Unfortunately, I don’t think there is a high chance of a TO of AVZ’s interests in Dathcom at this time. Although I certainly do hope it happens now and it’s based on a similar outcome / structure to what I described above.

In any event, I would not dismiss the “Opportunity” of a TO so readily when there are Take Overs and there are Take Overs, any outcome that is of great financial benefit and reward to AVZ shareholders is welcome IMO.

As suggested in a previous post, seems this week is turning out to be very interesting indeed.

Regarding coming out of suspension, from what I hear it’s unlikely this week, apparently everything is all sorted in favour of AVZ which is great news, yet there are still various processes and documents to complete / finalise to support coming out of suspension. It all might be completed and written up in the next few days but sounded unlikely. As always, we shall see what the tide brings in tomorrow, and the next day and so on and so on…….

Cheers The Fox 🦊
well said and laid-out Fox! Maximising the monetisation of the asset should always be front of mind of the BoD and is in SH interest. As you say there are various options at our disposal, some of which simply have to recognise the landscape we operate in. Going all-in and ending up with nothing is not a prudent strategy, giving way in some areas to secure a deal that carries the Roche Dure to mining and CDL to further exploration even if that means letting unwelcome partners in the tent for a reasonable compensation at market value is preferable. I guess everybody has a different view depending on the average cost per share they bought in at and how desperately they need their money.
 
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Forgive me if this has been answered (its been a while since I had a big read back through the thread, but have the $33m mentioned here actually been PAID to Cominiere, or is the money yet to change hands and its simply an agreement at that value?
I think 5-6mill deposit was paid but was then spent on mars bars - no trace of it, gaaaawn!
 
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I think 5-6mill deposit was paid but was then spent on mars bars - no trace of it, gaaaawn!
If this mess ever resolves satisfactorily, let's see Zijin go after Comineire for the return of its US$5m deposit. They'll need long arms and a strong grip to scoop a million Mars bars from the bottom of a Manono shitter!

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