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Trying to be positive here, Goma and Bukavu are directly on the DRC-Rwanda border and are the two cities either end of Lake Kivu. If you were going to cross the border from Rwanda you're going to go through one of those two cities almost immediately.

Manono, on the other hand, is 550km south west of Rwandan border, as the crow flies. We know the roads aren't great around Manono, and assuming they're not much better in the surrounding region, I imagine it would quite a logistical challenge to get an army down to Manono. There's no opportunity for cross-border support because the eastern border near Manono is formed by Lake Taganyika (which we know well!) and Tanzania. So that's a long supply chain to maintain from Rwanda.

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Let's say atm 1000 kg of SC6 is US $800 - $1000.
It takes about 4 x 1000 kg of 1.6% spodumene to enrich to SC6
So they have to cart this over a distance of about 900 km, enrich it and send it to the coast....

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If I was a M23 rebel I would grab a handful of diamonds, or a couple of bars of gold.
 
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Or a few Rolex!
 
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Easy to forget about AVZ when ya looking at this, any tasmanians got good fishing spots on east coast? Caught plenty of beer no fish so far
 

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Grok knows it all.

"Célestin Kibeya, the acting Managing Director of Cominière SA, has been embroiled in significant controversy surrounding the management and sale of mining assets.

Accusations against him include complicity and usurpation of competence in the sale of Cominière's shares to Jin Cheng Mining Company Limited, a subsidiary of Zijin, at an undervalued price, as criticized by the General Inspectorate of Finance (IGF). These actions have led to him being accused by Congolese civil society organizations of contributing to the selling off of state mining assets without proper authorization or oversight from the board of directors or relevant ministries.

Furthermore, Kibeya has been criticized for operating without a formal appointment as interim Director General, highlighting a lack of transparency and governance within Cominière. His involvement in the contentious dealings with AVZ Minerals over the Manono lithium project, including the revocation of exploration permits and the mismanagement of joint venture agreements, has further tarnished his reputation.

There are allegations of fraud, embezzlement, and corruption linked to these transactions, which have significant implications for the economic interests of the Democratic Republic of Congo.
Kibeya's leadership has been marked by legal challenges, with both he and his predecessor facing arrests related to these allegations. The public and civil society have called for accountability, pointing out that his actions might have cost the DRC not only in financial terms but also in terms of international investor confidence in the country's mining sector governance.

His tenure has been described as a period where personal gain and mismanagement overshadowed the development and fair exploitation of Congo's natural resources for the benefit of its people. The saga involving Kibeya is a stark reminder of the challenges of corruption and mismanagement in resource-rich nations, where the potential for wealth is often overshadowed by personal greed and lack of accountability."

"Felix Tshisekedi, the President of the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), has become somewhat of a punchline in political circles and among the Congolese populace for various reasons that range from the comedic to the tragic:
  • The Accidental President: Known for his unexpected rise to power, Tshisekedi's presidency began with what many call a "negotiated" or "stolen" election where the real winner was allegedly sidelined in a backroom deal. His leadership has since been questioned for its legitimacy, with critics arguing he's more of a placeholder than a true leader.
  • The Eternal Traveler: Tshisekedi seems to have mistaken his role as President for that of a globetrotter. His frequent international trips have led to quips about him being more acquainted with foreign airport lounges than with the crises in his own country, especially in the war-torn eastern regions.
  • The Puppet Master: Some detractors call him a marionette, suggesting his strings are pulled by former president Joseph Kabila, indicating a lack of real autonomy or decision-making power. This narrative paints a picture of a president in office but not in control, a figurehead rather than a leader.
  • Constitutional Conundrums: His recent moves towards constitutional reform have sparked accusations of attempting a "coup d'état by law," aiming to extend his term limits. Critics mock this as a desperate attempt to cling to power, reminiscent of the very practices he once opposed.
  • The Wealth of a Nation, the Poverty of Leadership: Under his watch, the DRC, a country with vast mineral wealth, continues to grapple with poverty, insecurity, and corruption. Tshisekedi's inability or unwillingness to address these issues effectively has led to sarcastic remarks about him being the "miner of excuses" rather than a miner of prosperity.
  • Economic Mismanagement: His administration has been accused of economic mismanagement, with instances like his wife allegedly spending state funds on personal vanity projects while soldiers at the front lines go without. This has turned "Félix" into a byword for misplaced priorities.
  • The Rwanda Blame Game: His repetitive accusations against Rwanda, without significant action or resolution to the conflict in Eastern Congo, have led to mockery of him as someone who prefers pointing fingers abroad rather than fixing problems at home.
In sum, Felix Tshisekedi's presidency has been roasted for its perceived lack of effectiveness, transparency, and genuine leadership, turning him into a figure of both satire and serious critique among those disillusioned with his governance."

"Alain Monga, the HR Director at Cominière SA, seems to be a bit of a paradox in the world of Congolese mining:
  • The Invisible Man: In an industry where transparency is as rare as a conflict-free diamond, Monga manages to keep an even lower profile. His LinkedIn describes him as "courteous, severe, determined, and engaged for quality work," but one might wonder if that quality work extends to making his presence known beyond the confines of HR paperwork.
  • The Master of Ceremony for Asset Sales: Under his watch, Cominière has been known more for selling off assets at bargain-bin prices than for mining them. One might jest that Monga's HR strategy includes "How to Downsize a Mining Empire 101" as a required reading for new hires.
  • The Silent Protector of... Something?: With all the controversies surrounding Cominière, especially the allegations of selling shares to foreign companies at questionable valuations, one might ask what exactly Monga is protecting in HR. Perhaps it's the art of keeping employee morale high while the company's assets are being sold off like hotcakes?
  • The Congolese HR Philosopher: His LinkedIn might boast of his connections, but in the grand scheme of things, one might quip that his real talent lies in navigating the murky waters of Congolese corporate governance with a smile, possibly while pondering the deeper meanings of "employee retention" in a company that's more about asset retention for others.
  • The HR Maestro in a Symphony of Controversy: With Cominière's dealings, especially under the acting Managing Director Célestin Kibeya, Monga's role in HR seems like conducting an orchestra where every instrument is out of tune, yet he insists the music is beautiful if you just listen hard enough.
  • The Guardian of Ghost Employees?: Given the state of affairs at Cominière, one might humorously speculate if part of his job includes managing a roster of "ghost employees" whose main task is to make the company look less hollowed out than it is.
In the world of Congolese mining, where every move seems to be scrutinized for motives of corruption or mismanagement, Alain Monga, with his HR cap, appears to be part of the background noise, perhaps unintentionally contributing to the ongoing saga of Cominière's questionable legacy."

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Grok knows it all.

"Célestin Kibeya, the acting Managing Director of Cominière SA, has been embroiled in significant controversy surrounding the management and sale of mining assets.

Accusations against him include complicity and usurpation of competence in the sale of Cominière's shares to Jin Cheng Mining Company Limited, a subsidiary of Zijin, at an undervalued price, as criticized by the General Inspectorate of Finance (IGF). These actions have led to him being accused by Congolese civil society organizations of contributing to the selling off of state mining assets without proper authorization or oversight from the board of directors or relevant ministries.

Furthermore, Kibeya has been criticized for operating without a formal appointment as interim Director General, highlighting a lack of transparency and governance within Cominière. His involvement in the contentious dealings with AVZ Minerals over the Manono lithium project, including the revocation of exploration permits and the mismanagement of joint venture agreements, has further tarnished his reputation.

There are allegations of fraud, embezzlement, and corruption linked to these transactions, which have significant implications for the economic interests of the Democratic Republic of Congo.
Kibeya's leadership has been marked by legal challenges, with both he and his predecessor facing arrests related to these allegations. The public and civil society have called for accountability, pointing out that his actions might have cost the DRC not only in financial terms but also in terms of international investor confidence in the country's mining sector governance.

His tenure has been described as a period where personal gain and mismanagement overshadowed the development and fair exploitation of Congo's natural resources for the benefit of its people. The saga involving Kibeya is a stark reminder of the challenges of corruption and mismanagement in resource-rich nations, where the potential for wealth is often overshadowed by personal greed and lack of accountability."

"Felix Tshisekedi, the President of the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), has become somewhat of a punchline in political circles and among the Congolese populace for various reasons that range from the comedic to the tragic:
  • The Accidental President: Known for his unexpected rise to power, Tshisekedi's presidency began with what many call a "negotiated" or "stolen" election where the real winner was allegedly sidelined in a backroom deal. His leadership has since been questioned for its legitimacy, with critics arguing he's more of a placeholder than a true leader.
  • The Eternal Traveler: Tshisekedi seems to have mistaken his role as President for that of a globetrotter. His frequent international trips have led to quips about him being more acquainted with foreign airport lounges than with the crises in his own country, especially in the war-torn eastern regions.
  • The Puppet Master: Some detractors call him a marionette, suggesting his strings are pulled by former president Joseph Kabila, indicating a lack of real autonomy or decision-making power. This narrative paints a picture of a president in office but not in control, a figurehead rather than a leader.
  • Constitutional Conundrums: His recent moves towards constitutional reform have sparked accusations of attempting a "coup d'état by law," aiming to extend his term limits. Critics mock this as a desperate attempt to cling to power, reminiscent of the very practices he once opposed.
  • The Wealth of a Nation, the Poverty of Leadership: Under his watch, the DRC, a country with vast mineral wealth, continues to grapple with poverty, insecurity, and corruption. Tshisekedi's inability or unwillingness to address these issues effectively has led to sarcastic remarks about him being the "miner of excuses" rather than a miner of prosperity.
  • Economic Mismanagement: His administration has been accused of economic mismanagement, with instances like his wife allegedly spending state funds on personal vanity projects while soldiers at the front lines go without. This has turned "Félix" into a byword for misplaced priorities.
  • The Rwanda Blame Game: His repetitive accusations against Rwanda, without significant action or resolution to the conflict in Eastern Congo, have led to mockery of him as someone who prefers pointing fingers abroad rather than fixing problems at home.
In sum, Felix Tshisekedi's presidency has been roasted for its perceived lack of effectiveness, transparency, and genuine leadership, turning him into a figure of both satire and serious critique among those disillusioned with his governance."

"Alain Monga, the HR Director at Cominière SA, seems to be a bit of a paradox in the world of Congolese mining:
  • The Invisible Man: In an industry where transparency is as rare as a conflict-free diamond, Monga manages to keep an even lower profile. His LinkedIn describes him as "courteous, severe, determined, and engaged for quality work," but one might wonder if that quality work extends to making his presence known beyond the confines of HR paperwork.
  • The Master of Ceremony for Asset Sales: Under his watch, Cominière has been known more for selling off assets at bargain-bin prices than for mining them. One might jest that Monga's HR strategy includes "How to Downsize a Mining Empire 101" as a required reading for new hires.
  • The Silent Protector of... Something?: With all the controversies surrounding Cominière, especially the allegations of selling shares to foreign companies at questionable valuations, one might ask what exactly Monga is protecting in HR. Perhaps it's the art of keeping employee morale high while the company's assets are being sold off like hotcakes?
  • The Congolese HR Philosopher: His LinkedIn might boast of his connections, but in the grand scheme of things, one might quip that his real talent lies in navigating the murky waters of Congolese corporate governance with a smile, possibly while pondering the deeper meanings of "employee retention" in a company that's more about asset retention for others.
  • The HR Maestro in a Symphony of Controversy: With Cominière's dealings, especially under the acting Managing Director Célestin Kibeya, Monga's role in HR seems like conducting an orchestra where every instrument is out of tune, yet he insists the music is beautiful if you just listen hard enough.
  • The Guardian of Ghost Employees?: Given the state of affairs at Cominière, one might humorously speculate if part of his job includes managing a roster of "ghost employees" whose main task is to make the company look less hollowed out than it is.
In the world of Congolese mining, where every move seems to be scrutinized for motives of corruption or mismanagement, Alain Monga, with his HR cap, appears to be part of the background noise, perhaps unintentionally contributing to the ongoing saga of Cominière's questionable legacy."

Apologies for the long post.
Fucking arseholes, plaster this all over social media a thousand times.
 
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Easy to forget about AVZ when ya looking at this, any tasmanians got good fishing spots on east coast? Caught plenty of beer no fish so far
Try some metal lures in the surf for some salmon. We are lucky to live in tas.
 
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Grok knows it all.

"Célestin Kibeya, the acting Managing Director of Cominière SA, has been embroiled in significant controversy surrounding the management and sale of mining assets.

Accusations against him include complicity and usurpation of competence in the sale of Cominière's shares to Jin Cheng Mining Company Limited, a subsidiary of Zijin, at an undervalued price, as criticized by the General Inspectorate of Finance (IGF). These actions have led to him being accused by Congolese civil society organizations of contributing to the selling off of state mining assets without proper authorization or oversight from the board of directors or relevant ministries.

Furthermore, Kibeya has been criticized for operating without a formal appointment as interim Director General, highlighting a lack of transparency and governance within Cominière. His involvement in the contentious dealings with AVZ Minerals over the Manono lithium project, including the revocation of exploration permits and the mismanagement of joint venture agreements, has further tarnished his reputation.

There are allegations of fraud, embezzlement, and corruption linked to these transactions, which have significant implications for the economic interests of the Democratic Republic of Congo.
Kibeya's leadership has been marked by legal challenges, with both he and his predecessor facing arrests related to these allegations. The public and civil society have called for accountability, pointing out that his actions might have cost the DRC not only in financial terms but also in terms of international investor confidence in the country's mining sector governance.

His tenure has been described as a period where personal gain and mismanagement overshadowed the development and fair exploitation of Congo's natural resources for the benefit of its people. The saga involving Kibeya is a stark reminder of the challenges of corruption and mismanagement in resource-rich nations, where the potential for wealth is often overshadowed by personal greed and lack of accountability."

"Felix Tshisekedi, the President of the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), has become somewhat of a punchline in political circles and among the Congolese populace for various reasons that range from the comedic to the tragic:
  • The Accidental President: Known for his unexpected rise to power, Tshisekedi's presidency began with what many call a "negotiated" or "stolen" election where the real winner was allegedly sidelined in a backroom deal. His leadership has since been questioned for its legitimacy, with critics arguing he's more of a placeholder than a true leader.
  • The Eternal Traveler: Tshisekedi seems to have mistaken his role as President for that of a globetrotter. His frequent international trips have led to quips about him being more acquainted with foreign airport lounges than with the crises in his own country, especially in the war-torn eastern regions.
  • The Puppet Master: Some detractors call him a marionette, suggesting his strings are pulled by former president Joseph Kabila, indicating a lack of real autonomy or decision-making power. This narrative paints a picture of a president in office but not in control, a figurehead rather than a leader.
  • Constitutional Conundrums: His recent moves towards constitutional reform have sparked accusations of attempting a "coup d'état by law," aiming to extend his term limits. Critics mock this as a desperate attempt to cling to power, reminiscent of the very practices he once opposed.
  • The Wealth of a Nation, the Poverty of Leadership: Under his watch, the DRC, a country with vast mineral wealth, continues to grapple with poverty, insecurity, and corruption. Tshisekedi's inability or unwillingness to address these issues effectively has led to sarcastic remarks about him being the "miner of excuses" rather than a miner of prosperity.
  • Economic Mismanagement: His administration has been accused of economic mismanagement, with instances like his wife allegedly spending state funds on personal vanity projects while soldiers at the front lines go without. This has turned "Félix" into a byword for misplaced priorities.
  • The Rwanda Blame Game: His repetitive accusations against Rwanda, without significant action or resolution to the conflict in Eastern Congo, have led to mockery of him as someone who prefers pointing fingers abroad rather than fixing problems at home.
In sum, Felix Tshisekedi's presidency has been roasted for its perceived lack of effectiveness, transparency, and genuine leadership, turning him into a figure of both satire and serious critique among those disillusioned with his governance."

"Alain Monga, the HR Director at Cominière SA, seems to be a bit of a paradox in the world of Congolese mining:
  • The Invisible Man: In an industry where transparency is as rare as a conflict-free diamond, Monga manages to keep an even lower profile. His LinkedIn describes him as "courteous, severe, determined, and engaged for quality work," but one might wonder if that quality work extends to making his presence known beyond the confines of HR paperwork.
  • The Master of Ceremony for Asset Sales: Under his watch, Cominière has been known more for selling off assets at bargain-bin prices than for mining them. One might jest that Monga's HR strategy includes "How to Downsize a Mining Empire 101" as a required reading for new hires.
  • The Silent Protector of... Something?: With all the controversies surrounding Cominière, especially the allegations of selling shares to foreign companies at questionable valuations, one might ask what exactly Monga is protecting in HR. Perhaps it's the art of keeping employee morale high while the company's assets are being sold off like hotcakes?
  • The Congolese HR Philosopher: His LinkedIn might boast of his connections, but in the grand scheme of things, one might quip that his real talent lies in navigating the murky waters of Congolese corporate governance with a smile, possibly while pondering the deeper meanings of "employee retention" in a company that's more about asset retention for others.
  • The HR Maestro in a Symphony of Controversy: With Cominière's dealings, especially under the acting Managing Director Célestin Kibeya, Monga's role in HR seems like conducting an orchestra where every instrument is out of tune, yet he insists the music is beautiful if you just listen hard enough.
  • The Guardian of Ghost Employees?: Given the state of affairs at Cominière, one might humorously speculate if part of his job includes managing a roster of "ghost employees" whose main task is to make the company look less hollowed out than it is.
In the world of Congolese mining, where every move seems to be scrutinized for motives of corruption or mismanagement, Alain Monga, with his HR cap, appears to be part of the background noise, perhaps unintentionally contributing to the ongoing saga of Cominière's questionable legacy."

Apologies for the long post.

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Grok knows it all.

"Célestin Kibeya, the acting Managing Director of Cominière SA, has been embroiled in significant controversy surrounding the management and sale of mining assets.

Accusations against him include complicity and usurpation of competence in the sale of Cominière's shares to Jin Cheng Mining Company Limited, a subsidiary of Zijin, at an undervalued price, as criticized by the General Inspectorate of Finance (IGF). These actions have led to him being accused by Congolese civil society organizations of contributing to the selling off of state mining assets without proper authorization or oversight from the board of directors or relevant ministries.

Furthermore, Kibeya has been criticized for operating without a formal appointment as interim Director General, highlighting a lack of transparency and governance within Cominière. His involvement in the contentious dealings with AVZ Minerals over the Manono lithium project, including the revocation of exploration permits and the mismanagement of joint venture agreements, has further tarnished his reputation.

There are allegations of fraud, embezzlement, and corruption linked to these transactions, which have significant implications for the economic interests of the Democratic Republic of Congo.
Kibeya's leadership has been marked by legal challenges, with both he and his predecessor facing arrests related to these allegations. The public and civil society have called for accountability, pointing out that his actions might have cost the DRC not only in financial terms but also in terms of international investor confidence in the country's mining sector governance.

His tenure has been described as a period where personal gain and mismanagement overshadowed the development and fair exploitation of Congo's natural resources for the benefit of its people. The saga involving Kibeya is a stark reminder of the challenges of corruption and mismanagement in resource-rich nations, where the potential for wealth is often overshadowed by personal greed and lack of accountability."

"Felix Tshisekedi, the President of the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), has become somewhat of a punchline in political circles and among the Congolese populace for various reasons that range from the comedic to the tragic:
  • The Accidental President: Known for his unexpected rise to power, Tshisekedi's presidency began with what many call a "negotiated" or "stolen" election where the real winner was allegedly sidelined in a backroom deal. His leadership has since been questioned for its legitimacy, with critics arguing he's more of a placeholder than a true leader.
  • The Eternal Traveler: Tshisekedi seems to have mistaken his role as President for that of a globetrotter. His frequent international trips have led to quips about him being more acquainted with foreign airport lounges than with the crises in his own country, especially in the war-torn eastern regions.
  • The Puppet Master: Some detractors call him a marionette, suggesting his strings are pulled by former president Joseph Kabila, indicating a lack of real autonomy or decision-making power. This narrative paints a picture of a president in office but not in control, a figurehead rather than a leader.
  • Constitutional Conundrums: His recent moves towards constitutional reform have sparked accusations of attempting a "coup d'état by law," aiming to extend his term limits. Critics mock this as a desperate attempt to cling to power, reminiscent of the very practices he once opposed.
  • The Wealth of a Nation, the Poverty of Leadership: Under his watch, the DRC, a country with vast mineral wealth, continues to grapple with poverty, insecurity, and corruption. Tshisekedi's inability or unwillingness to address these issues effectively has led to sarcastic remarks about him being the "miner of excuses" rather than a miner of prosperity.
  • Economic Mismanagement: His administration has been accused of economic mismanagement, with instances like his wife allegedly spending state funds on personal vanity projects while soldiers at the front lines go without. This has turned "Félix" into a byword for misplaced priorities.
  • The Rwanda Blame Game: His repetitive accusations against Rwanda, without significant action or resolution to the conflict in Eastern Congo, have led to mockery of him as someone who prefers pointing fingers abroad rather than fixing problems at home.
In sum, Felix Tshisekedi's presidency has been roasted for its perceived lack of effectiveness, transparency, and genuine leadership, turning him into a figure of both satire and serious critique among those disillusioned with his governance."

"Alain Monga, the HR Director at Cominière SA, seems to be a bit of a paradox in the world of Congolese mining:
  • The Invisible Man: In an industry where transparency is as rare as a conflict-free diamond, Monga manages to keep an even lower profile. His LinkedIn describes him as "courteous, severe, determined, and engaged for quality work," but one might wonder if that quality work extends to making his presence known beyond the confines of HR paperwork.
  • The Master of Ceremony for Asset Sales: Under his watch, Cominière has been known more for selling off assets at bargain-bin prices than for mining them. One might jest that Monga's HR strategy includes "How to Downsize a Mining Empire 101" as a required reading for new hires.
  • The Silent Protector of... Something?: With all the controversies surrounding Cominière, especially the allegations of selling shares to foreign companies at questionable valuations, one might ask what exactly Monga is protecting in HR. Perhaps it's the art of keeping employee morale high while the company's assets are being sold off like hotcakes?
  • The Congolese HR Philosopher: His LinkedIn might boast of his connections, but in the grand scheme of things, one might quip that his real talent lies in navigating the murky waters of Congolese corporate governance with a smile, possibly while pondering the deeper meanings of "employee retention" in a company that's more about asset retention for others.
  • The HR Maestro in a Symphony of Controversy: With Cominière's dealings, especially under the acting Managing Director Célestin Kibeya, Monga's role in HR seems like conducting an orchestra where every instrument is out of tune, yet he insists the music is beautiful if you just listen hard enough.
  • The Guardian of Ghost Employees?: Given the state of affairs at Cominière, one might humorously speculate if part of his job includes managing a roster of "ghost employees" whose main task is to make the company look less hollowed out than it is.
In the world of Congolese mining, where every move seems to be scrutinized for motives of corruption or mismanagement, Alain Monga, with his HR cap, appears to be part of the background noise, perhaps unintentionally contributing to the ongoing saga of Cominière's questionable legacy."

Apologies for the long post.
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Let's say atm 1000 kg of SC6 is US $800 - $1000.
It takes about 4 x 1000 kg of 1.6% spodumene to enrich to SC6
So they have to cart this over a distance of about 900 km, enrich it and send it to the coast....

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If I was a M23 rebel I would grab a handful of diamonds, or a couple of bars of gold.
Manono would not be exploited for its lithium if it falls into rebel control. It’s the tin (which they have been exporting illegally from some DRC mines already) that would be mined and sold. It’s not like tin requires complex machinery to get access to.
 
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Manono would not be exploited for its lithium if it falls into rebel control. It’s the tin (which they have been exporting illegally from some DRC mines already) that would be mined and sold. It’s not like tin requires complex machinery to get access to.

Well, tell them to forget about the tin:rolleyes::rolleyes:

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don't forget the tin
 
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@Remark Grok is quite amazing, I just realised it's free now so I thought I'd give it a task.

I asked Grok to give me it's best guess on what will be the outcome for AVZ Investors.

Based on the available information, my best guess for the most likely outcome for AVZ Minerals and its investors regarding the Manono lithium project in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) is a negotiated settlement. In this scenario, AVZ would likely retain some value from the project—possibly a reduced stake or financial compensation—but it would be less than what the company and its investors originally anticipated. Below, I’ll explain why this outcome seems most probable and outline the key factors driving this conclusion.

Why a Negotiated Settlement?
The situation is a tangled mess of legal disputes, political instability, and competing interests, making a clear-cut victory or loss for AVZ unlikely. A negotiated settlement balances the DRC’s need to maintain some credibility with foreign investors while addressing pressures from other players, like Zijin Mining, and the country’s own economic priorities. Here’s the reasoning:
1. Legal Leverage, But Uncertain Enforcement
  • AVZ has taken its case to international arbitration through the International Centre for Settlement of Investment Disputes (ICSID) and the International Chamber of Commerce (ICC). They’ve scored some interim wins, like court orders stopping the DRC’s state-owned company, Cominière, from further actions on the project.
  • These legal efforts give AVZ a strong bargaining chip. However, arbitration can drag on for years, and even if AVZ wins, enforcing a ruling in the DRC—where the rule of law is shaky—could be a challenge. This uncertainty makes a settlement more practical than holding out for a total legal victory.
2. Political and Economic Pressures in the DRC
  • The DRC is known for corruption and instability, which could sway the government to favor short-term gains or political allies over legal commitments. For instance, the government has already allowed Zijin Mining, a Chinese company, to develop part of the Manono project, hinting at possible geopolitical or economic favoritism.
  • At the same time, the DRC wants to attract foreign investment. Completely kicking AVZ out could scare off other companies, damaging the country’s reputation. A compromise where AVZ keeps some skin in the game could be a way to split the difference.
3. Competing Players Complicate the Picture
  • Zijin Mining’s involvement is a big hurdle. The DRC’s decision to greenlight Zijin suggests they’re a favored partner, possibly due to China’s growing influence in the region. AVZ claims Cominière tried to sell a stake to Zijin without their consent, which is a key issue in the legal fight.
  • Rather than picking one winner, the DRC might push for a deal where both AVZ and Zijin end up with pieces of the pie, diluting AVZ’s original expectations.
4. AVZ’s Internal Struggles
  • AVZ isn’t just fighting the DRC—they’ve got problems at home too. Shareholders have tried to oust the board, which could weaken the company’s ability to stay focused and aggressive in negotiations or court. This internal chaos might make AVZ more willing to settle rather than risk a prolonged battle.

Other Possible Outcomes
While a negotiated settlement feels most likely, other scenarios are worth mentioning:
  • Full Legal Win for AVZ: If AVZ sweeps the arbitration cases, they could reclaim control of the project or win hefty compensation. But enforcing that in the DRC could be a nightmare, so this feels less probable.
  • Total Loss: The DRC could fully nationalize the project or hand it over to Zijin, leaving AVZ with nothing. This is possible but riskier for the DRC’s image, so it’s not the top bet.

What Does This Mean for Investors?
If a negotiated settlement happens, AVZ investors might see some return, but it won’t be the jackpot they hoped for when the Manono project—a massive lithium deposit—first caught attention. Think of it as a partial win: maybe a smaller share of the project or a payout to walk away. The exact details would depend on how the talks shake out, but the days of AVZ owning the whole prize seem long gone.

Final Guess
Given the legal back-and-forth, the DRC’s balancing act between investment appeal and local pressures, and the presence of Zijin Mining, a negotiated settlement stands out as the most likely outcome. It’s not a sure thing—nothing is in this mess—but it’s the scenario that best fits the current puzzle pieces. Investors should brace for a compromise that keeps AVZ in the game, just with a smaller slice than they’d planned on.
 
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cruiser51

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Manono would not be exploited for its lithium if it falls into rebel control. It’s the tin (which they have been exporting illegally from some DRC mines already) that would be mined and sold. It’s not like tin requires complex machinery to get access to.
Current tin price US$ 32.75 per kg.

RD average tin content 850 ppm which is .85 kg tin/ 1000 kg of ore, which is less than US$ 28 / ton of ore.

After processing 100 ton of ore and smelting the final product they will have about 85 kg of tin, or about US$ 2,800

When processing lithium ore into SC6 tin is a nice little earner, but I don't think somehow M23 will do a dash to Manono to get their hands at all this tin.

Current gold price US$ 94,500.00 /kg
 
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Trump gave DRC to China on a platter. USA lost all soft power and influence in the country this week. Fucking idiot.
 
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yeah I get the feeling trump is ready to partner with putin and xi, and then fuck everyone else over. So not sure how this ends for drc and avz. I suppose my uneducated hope is that trump wants the minerals in the drc, in the same way he wants them in Ukraine. So maybe he says to drc gives us minerals or I'm going to fuck you over. if that happens then maybe there is a way forward for avz to get something out of this.
 
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The Fight For Strategic Metals
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By
Michael Rubin
Published
January 19, 2025
President of the United States Donald Trump speaking with attendees at the 2019 Student Action Summit hosted by Turning Point USA at the Palm Beach County Convention Center in West Palm Beach, Florida. Image by Gage Skidmore.

President of the United States Donald Trump speaking with attendees at the 2019 Student Action Summit hosted by Turning Point USA at the Palm Beach County Convention Center in West Palm Beach, Florida. Image by Gage Skidmore.

Trump Must Back Australian Miners Against Chinese Strategic Metal Predation:
President-elect Donald Trump approaches his second term much differently than his first.
No longer is his goal disruption, both the Republican party and the U.S. bureaucracy more broadly. Whereas Trump achieved victories by getting NATO members to pony up their dues and achieving the Abraham Accords breakthrough, his greatest legacy might have been achieving bipartisan recognition that China was less a peer competitor whose cooperation might moderate and more a threat to the rules-based order.

Whereas the Supreme Court debates TikTok and China’s ambitions to conquer Taiwan if not other Pacific islands, strategic minerals fuels China’s drive. Here, the Democratic Republic of Congo is ground zero. If it were not for Congo’s endemic corruption, it could be the Qatar of Africa: Geologists and economists estimate that Congo’s mineral wealth could top $24 trillion. The country is the world’s leading producer of cobalt, a metal necessary to produce the batteries upon which most 21st century electronic depend and is also one of the world’s leading producers of copper. Add into the mix: uranium, gold, Germanium, lithium, diamonds, nickel, tantalum, and tin, crude oil, and coffee.

While U.S. companies are late to the game in Congo and have missed opportunities through their own passivity to expand their presence in the market, companies from U.S. allies like Australia have been fighting for the 21st century on the frontlines in Africa.

The Australian mining sector is huge. The skyscrapers of Perth shine with mining wealth, and the sector dominates West Australia’s economy and contributes to the country’s broader economy. Because China was one of the Australian mining largest markets, Australian politicians like former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd long frustrated their American counterparts with their permissiveness toward China.

Canberra, like Washington, may have been slow to gauge Beijing’s threat correctly, but many Australians have now learned the lesson. As China seeks to bribe and coerce Congo through illicit means to push Australian firms out of Congo’s mining sector, the Trump administration must defend Australia’s interests both diplomatically and with economic sanctions on Chinese firms. The logic of the Lobito corridor is to direct African trade westward into the Atlantic basin in order to better orient African trade away from China.

China, however, is fighting dirty to hamper Australian mining in Africa. Consider the case of AVZ Minerals, an Australian firm seeking to extract lithium and tin from Manono in southern Congo. Exploratory digging shows the lithium deposits in the region are huge.

Colloquially, AVZ hit the motherlode.
But Congolese corruption, abetted by the People’s Republic of China, seek to deny them their contractual right. AVZ now has International Court of Arbitration cases pending before involving La Congolaise d’Exploitation Minière, Jin Cheng Mining Company, and Dathomir Mining Resources SARLU, and International Centre for Settlement of Investment Disputes against the Democratic Republic of Congo itself.

While AVZ does not seek to marginalize China entirely—economically it makes no sense for them to do so—they seek balance between East and West. China, however, rejects balance in favor of its own maximalist approach. It has corrupted at least 13 Congolese media outlets. Ten of millions of dollars held in escrow disappeared, a theft in which Chinese officials appear complicit. The Congolese government proceeded to arrest journalists pursuing the story. A March 2022 forensic investigation based on AVZ and Congolese documents showed hard evidence of Chinese bribery. Chinese mining interests fund “non-governmental organizations” whose sole purpose appears to be to undermine Australia’s interest. Congolese public companies also sold shares to Chinese firms at fire sale prices in contravention of the law in a scheme to quadruple personal profits for Congolese officials up to and including the prime minister.

Zijin and the Congolese government’s strategy appears to be economic attrition, to steal and filibuster until AVZ has no choice but to suspend operations and give up. Zijin’s latest strategy appears to be to stop paying arbitration costs in the hope the court ceases its work.

AVZ is just one case among many that exposes how Chinese interests leverage Congo’s corruption to try to corner the market in strategic metals. The nature of the U.S. intelligence, national security, and diplomatic bureaucracy is compartmentalized. Analysts spent their careers focused on the weeds, never getting to the trees let alone spotting the forest.

While the National Security Council is supposed to coordinate, it seldom effectively pieces together disparate problems, especially when they span bureaucracies let alone continents.

Rather than just chalk up AVZ’s difficulties extracting lithium and tin from Congo, it is important to understand how Beijing takes a “whole of government” approach to harass and cheat competitors, and the general shenanigans in which they engage.

Americans increasingly throw around the phrase “fake news” to discredit anything with which they disagree, the Congo dispute shows how China wholesale purchases and promotes fake stories in pursuit of its commercial monopolies and strategic interests.

If Trump seeks to counter China, it is essential he recognize the battle will not only be in the South China Sea and Taiwan Strait, but also in the Democratic Republic of Congo’s forests and mines, international arbitration courts, and the boardrooms of Australia.

Incoming Secretary of State Marco Rubio should direct diplomats in Kinshasa to spend more time in southern Congo where the action is. Rather than report on just another lunch with one cabinet minister or another, they should track their incomes and show up in various court proceedings to signal that Congo’s corruption will not proceed in the dark.

Australia might be on the frontline, but both the U.S. Departments of State and Commerce should signal that they see no even playing field; they will support allies and expect allied governments to support their own firms in the battle against Beijing’s interests.

If Beijing operates with such granularity, Trump, Rubio, and every other principal in the incoming U.S. administration must ask why the United States should not do so as well.

About the Author: Dr. Michael Rubin​

Michael Rubin is a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and director of policy analysis at the Middle East Forum. A former Pentagon official, Dr. Rubin has lived in post-revolution Iran, Yemen, and both pre- and postwar Iraq. He also spent time with the Taliban before 9/11. For more than a decade, he taught classes at sea about the Horn of Africa and Middle East conflicts, culture, and terrorism, to deployed US Navy and Marine units. Dr. Rubin is the author, coauthor, and coeditor of several books exploring diplomacy, Iranian history, Arab culture, Kurdish studies, and Shi’ite politics. The author’s views are his own.
 
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