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M23 / Rwanda aren’t that far from Manono. Which is quite concerning for me, as I have no idea what Rwanda would decide to do with us. Their entire reason for the expansion is to secure more minerals - so why would they care about our so called legal rights or anyone else’s.

I say this as the DRC army has been completely inadequate (imagine not paying your soldiers or even giving them weapons and ammo or even food) with barely any fighting and they have just melted away. If Kagame decides he wants to secure more critical minerals and head further south from Bukavu, I fear that Manono will also be taken by M23.
 
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M23 / Rwanda aren’t that far from Manono. Which is quite concerning for me, as I have no idea what Rwanda would decide to do with us. Their entire reason for the expansion is to secure more minerals - so why would they care about our so called legal rights or anyone else’s.

I say this as the DRC army has been completely inadequate (imagine not paying your soldiers or even giving them weapons and ammo or even food) with barely any fighting and they have just melted away. If Kagame decides he wants to secure more critical minerals and head further south from Bukavu, I fear that Manono will also be taken by M23.
Imagine flying around the world attending conferences to remind investors that you are a safe space to invest. While a literal invading army picks off one city after another!!
 
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Imagine flying around the world attending conferences to remind investors that you are a safe space to invest. While a literal invading army picks off one city after another!!
Opportunity for DRC to get USA support .
Critical minerals in exchange for USA involvement .
M23 Will not stand up to USA
Hopefully he is flying to meet Trump.
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M23 / Rwanda aren’t that far from Manono. Which is quite concerning for me, as I have no idea what Rwanda would decide to do with us. Their entire reason for the expansion is to secure more minerals - so why would they care about our so called legal rights or anyone else’s.

I say this as the DRC army has been completely inadequate (imagine not paying your soldiers or even giving them weapons and ammo or even food) with barely any fighting and they have just melted away. If Kagame decides he wants to secure more critical minerals and head further south from Bukavu, I fear that Manono will also be taken by M23.
Fu^k break it up , IMO that sounds like a load of horse dung , Manono taken where by M23 , stop giving people more BS to think about
 
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I removed the gratuitous sexual poses etc, so apologies for any mistakes, but I'm sure you get the drift.

I pasted a Guardian article saying much the same thing last year.
It's probably a shock to many that DRC leaders could be involved in such behaiour - sorry to shatter such illusions




EXCLUSIVESecret depravity of the Davos global elite: More sex parties than ever, NDAs for prostitutes, transsexual women… and the most commonly-requested sex act revealed​

By MIRIAM KUEPPER

Published: 20:37 AEDT, 25 January 2025 | Updated: 04:52 AEDT, 26 January 2025



The secret depravity of the global elite coming to the World Economic Forum in Davos has been laid bare, with escort agencies revealing that the demand for sex parties, NDAs for prostitutes and transsexual women has increased.
The forum, which started on Monday, has welcomed more than 3,000 business and political leaders to the Swiss Alps.
But not just the global elite has flocked to the town, as escorts are more in demand than ever among those attending the event.
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And according to one website that organises what it calls 'dates you pay for', many of the arrivals are enjoying sex orgies - arranged by individuals who are booking multiple women at once.
'Since the start of the WEF, we've seen around 300 women and trans women been booked in Davos and the surrounding area,' Andreas Berger, spokesman for Titt4tat, told MailOnline.
This is compared to about 170 women in 2024. 'In terms of the number of bookings for commercial intimacy, it was another record year for us [at the WEF],' Mr Berger said.
'There were significantly more sex parties than in previous years,' he added, based on the amount of escorts booked - 300 - by just around 90 customers compared to 140 last year.
And it seems wealthy and powerful clients are also going to increased lengths to keep their sexual activities secret.
'What has changed is that a lot of women in and around Davos now have to sign NDAs [non-disclosure agreements]' Mr Berger said, adding that these agreements were often in English.

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The secret depravity of the global elite coming to the World Economic Forum in Davos has been laid bare, with escort agencies revealing that the demand for sex parties, NDAs for prostitutes and transsexual women has increased (stock image)
The forum, which started on Monday, has welcomed more than 3,000 business and political leaders to the Swiss Alps

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The forum, which started on Monday, has welcomed more than 3,000 business and political leaders to the Swiss Alps
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Escorts hired during the WEF have to offer a particular skill set to appeal to clients, according to Susann from the Swiss Escort Avantgarde agency

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What the global elite reveal to Davos sex workers: High-class escort spills the beans

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'Of course I can only speak for our agency, but conversations with other agencies and models show that many men use these services.
'The main difference lies less in the event itself, but rather in the type of agency and the respective price segment they serve - which often correlates with the customers' income.
'Our agency operates in the high-class segment, which also reflects our typical customer base.'
'Our models are usually bilingual, as we address a more sophisticated and high-quality clientele,' Jan and Lia from exclusive agency Lia Models echoed, adding that the in-demand languages were English as the main language and German or French.
'In Davos, people like to show off in the evenings alongside a particularly eye-catching and attractive woman who is introduced as a companion or friend.
'It is advantageous if the companion is not only visually convincing, but also intelligent and quick-witted.
'Ultimately, it is important that the date runs harmoniously and that the companion conveys credibly that she is the client's partner.
'Elegance, style and the ability to comfortable manoeuver at a high social level take centre stage. A confident appearance is essential in order to meet customer expectations in this exclusive environment.'


Jan and Lia from the Lia Models escort agency said that major events like WEF would generally lead to an increased interest in escorts due to 'many high-ranking and solvent guests arriving from all over the world'

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Discretion, all three providers have urged, is of utmost importance in the escort business
Of course, the main reason escorts flock to Davos for WEF is to make money - with eye-watering rates charged during the event and some women easily commanding £6,000 per booking.
But the amounts are nothing to the wealthy clients, the various escort agencies agree - and their customers typically pay for several hours of 'company' with the women.
Titt4tat's Mr Berger added that the average booking duration at the WEF is four hours, which combined with the average hourly rate and the 300 bookings on Titt4Tat during the first three days of the WEF alone would amount to about CHF300,000 (£270,000).
'But there are other providers and agencies. My estimate would be about 1 million CHF (£900,000) in total,' Mr Berger added.

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This was a 1 second google search
 
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M23 / Rwanda aren’t that far from Manono. Which is quite concerning for me, as I have no idea what Rwanda would decide to do with us. Their entire reason for the expansion is to secure more minerals - so why would they care about our so called legal rights or anyone else’s.

I say this as the DRC army has been completely inadequate (imagine not paying your soldiers or even giving them weapons and ammo or even food) with barely any fighting and they have just melted away. If Kagame decides he wants to secure more critical minerals and head further south from Bukavu, I fear that Manono will also be taken by M23.

Trying to be positive here, Goma and Bukavu are directly on the DRC-Rwanda border and are the two cities either end of Lake Kivu. If you were going to cross the border from Rwanda you're going to go through one of those two cities almost immediately.

Manono, on the other hand, is 550km south west of Rwandan border, as the crow flies. We know the roads aren't great around Manono, and assuming they're not much better in the surrounding region, I imagine it would quite a logistical challenge to get an army down to Manono. There's no opportunity for cross-border support because the eastern border near Manono is formed by Lake Taganyika (which we know well!) and Tanzania. So that's a long supply chain to maintain from Rwanda.

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Fu^k break it up , IMO that sounds like a load of horse dung , Manono taken where by M23 , stop giving people more BS to think about
M23 captured the 2 largest cities in the East. Goma has a population of 1.5 million people and was one of the most important cities in the whole of the DRC. Hardly any fighting to stop their progress except from foreign mercenaries - the DRC army is a complete joke. Bukavu fell with a whimper. Barely attacked and the locals welcomed them in as their saviours (tens of thousands of more civilians and DRC army forces fled from them)

I think M23 will find it hard to administer all their newly conquered territory. It’ll take them a few months before they can probably move again. Which direction they go will be interesting. If it’s further south they will get closer to us (not that great a distance to Manono - even with the absolute terrible infrastructure between Bukavu and Manono)

Without the deployment of serious firepower by foreign countries, Rwandan / Ugandan and M23 fighters will continue to gobble up territory with no real opposition.
 
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Trying to be positive here, Goma and Bukavu are directly on the DRC-Rwanda border and are the two cities either end of Lake Kivu. If you were going to cross the border from Rwanda you're going to go through one of those two cities almost immediately.

Manono, on the other hand, is 550km south west of Rwandan border, as the crow flies. We know the roads aren't great around Manono, and assuming they're not much better in the surrounding region, I imagine it would quite a logistical challenge to get an army down to Manono. There's no opportunity for cross-border support because the eastern border near Manono is formed by Lake Taganyika (which we know well!) and Tanzania. So that's a long supply chain to maintain from Rwanda.

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I agree. The fact that there is abysmal infrastructure is our one saving grace.
If there was a highway leading south we would be in a lot of trouble. There is no doubt that the large scale war being fought in the DRC now has significantly raised the risk profile of any DRC business dealings (if it wasn’t already stupidly high).

I think our window of sale to a western company has well and truly shut now. I can very much see situations of further fracturing of the loose alliances held within the DRC army, as more rebel groups decide to break away and secure their own fiefdoms and control over a floundering central authority thousands of kilometres away which is corrupt to the core
 
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I agree. The fact that there is abysmal infrastructure is our one saving grace.
If there was a highway leading south we would be in a lot of trouble. There is no doubt that the large scale war being fought in the DRC now has significantly raised the risk profile of any DRC business dealings (if it wasn’t already stupidly high).

I think our window of sale to a western company has well and truly shut now. I can very much see situations of further fracturing of the loose alliances held within the DRC army, as more rebel groups decide to break away and secure their own fiefdoms and control over a floundering central authority thousands of kilometres away which is corrupt to the core
Let's also hope that M23's aims are confined to the Kivu region and the Tutsi people.

Based on Googling and AI it sounds as though Manono/Tanganyika is an ethnically different (i.e. non Tutsi) region and likely not part of M23's plans.
 
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M23 I don't think would want Manono. There is nothing there of immediate value. I don't think they'll hold territory, be in an active war zone and develop (or third party to others!) a mine. It will take years and I'd be amazed if they plan on going that deep into the DRC and have the ability sustain the land grabs for the time period required! I think they would prefer to focus on existing mines...

I also think that this could force China to secure their strategic interests in DRC if it continues. How they will they do that... there is an obvious answer. I think this conflict isn't the good news that posters were back slapping each other with gotcha's and 'taste of your own medicine' earlier either.
 
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M23 I don't think would want Manono. There is nothing there of immediate value. I don't think they'll hold territory, be in an active war zone and develop (or third party to others!) a mine. It will take years and I'd be amazed if they plan on going that deep into the DRC and have the ability sustain the land grabs for the time period required! I think they would prefer to focus on existing mines...

I also think that this could force China to secure their strategic interests in DRC if it continues. How they will they do that... there is an obvious answer. I think this conflict isn't the good news that posters were back slapping each other with gotcha's and 'taste of your own medicine' earlier either.
And it's not even Friday ,
 
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