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BEISHA

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Well that seems like a reasonable view

I agree that generally speaking it is always wise to realise there may be unknowns in any situation. Just ask anyone claiming as fact that the outstanding fees at the ICSID had been paid with Locke funds lol

However all of the arguments regarding Dathomir's 15% are known

Cong’s own lawyer admitted in court that completion occurs upon payment under Article 2.1 of the SPA’s

Cong’s argument is that he had the right to terminate citing an Article from OHADA but that rule is about negotiations using an expert to value the shares in an absence of agreements not a get out of contracts free card

Cong signed the SPA’s, convened EGM’s to ratify and even got notary deeds to confirm his intention to be bound to the agreements

Tick tock imo

Although as I've stated here previously I do agree it will then depend on whether the DRC Supreme Court does the right thing on this matter which remains to be seen

I mainly asked because our good friend voldergeist does have a problem admitting that his mate Cong made a bad deal and then tried to back out of it like a dirty little rat

Don’t take the hostility personally. I’ve been dropping mountains of facts for years now and I still cop it regularly. If you had been lurking all this time you should understand that is how things are here.
The use of the word HOSTILITY has many connotations which can be misinterpreted many ways....

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No one has been " hostile " to @Ancient and no one has been " hostile " to you either, nor the fact you " cop it regurlarly ".......complete BS!

You are one of the most revered posters on this forum carlos.

This is a discussion form, where vigorous debate is a healthy thing, big difference between that and hostile .......IMO

"Just ask anyone claiming as fact that the outstanding fees at the ICSID had been paid with Locke funds lol "

Btw, nice subtle dig, could i construe that as being hostile ?

If you dont believe me, contact the BOD bud.
 
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It's not wisdom. I just wanted to further add to a discussion and provoke some others to share their thoughts. There's no doubt I have a bunch of things wrong but I'm just doing my best based on what I do know.

Not sure what you are getting at suggesting to talk to that Shane person. If my understanding is right they basically scammed a bunch of people into giving away their shares and I think that's absolutely disgusting.

There's no need to be rude to me about sharing some views on the current situation.

I agree that they probably wouldn't want the arbitration to continue. I didn't mean the arbitration isn't useful. It definitely helps apply pressure to negotiate. I was more commenting on the fact some people think the ICC case will result in some massive and immediate win. My thought is directly (the ruling) maybe not so much important if they're still hostile within the country then the block Is still there.

Not sure what you are getting at suggesting to talk to that Shane person.

That's exactly what Shane would say.
 
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The use of the word HOSTILITY has many connotations which can be misinterpreted many ways....

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No one has been " hostile " to @Ancient and no one has been " hostile " to you either, nor the fact you " cop it regurlarly ".......complete BS!

You are one of the most revered posters on this forum carlos.

This is a discussion form, where vigorous debate is a healthy thing, big difference between that and hostile .......IMO

"Just ask anyone claiming as fact that the outstanding fees at the ICSID had been paid with Locke funds lol "

Btw, nice subtle dig, could i construe that as being hostile ?

If you dont believe me, contact the BOD bud.
What day did you contact them?
 
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Xerof

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What day did you contact them?
Christmas Day, wishing them and their families a very merry christmas. What about you?

Would you take a screen shot if he replied? If so, for what purpose and for who? If not, why did you ask?
 
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Why would I take a screenshot if he replied?
I guess we'll just wait for an update.

Do you think ICSID fees have been paid with Locke funds?
 
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Xerof

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Why? Because it's my impression every question you ask infers you are seeking evidence of someone having insider information, thats why.

But that's just my suspicious nature

The last announcement says AVZ no longer needs to draw upon the Locke funding facility, as CATH has provided a Pre-Completion funding facility. Not sure that can be read any other way than that no drawdowns had taken place.

I don't know for sure, but as an educated guess, I would say the funds raised from Convertible Noteholders was possibly used to pay the fees, or simply out of the general pot. I think it's too early to say the CATH funds are available, and AVZ say as much - 'end of January for $10m'

I'm assuming the fees have been paid - I don't know that either, but I am relying on comments from credible others. In the end it's a minor detail as they have a few more weeks to pay anyway

Hope this helps in some small way
 
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Why? Because it's my impression every question you ask infers you are seeking evidence of someone having insider information, thats why.

But that's just my suspicious nature

The last announcement says AVZ no longer needs to draw upon the Locke funding facility, as CATH has provided a Pre-Completion funding facility. Not sure that can be read any other way than that no drawdowns had taken place.

I don't know for sure, but as an educated guess, I would say the funds raised from Convertible Noteholders was possibly used to pay the fees, or simply out of the general pot. I think it's too early to say the CATH funds are available, and AVZ say as much - 'end of January for $10m'

I'm assuming the fees have been paid - I don't know that either, but I am relying on comments from credible others. In the end it's a minor detail as they have a few more weeks to pay anyway

Hope this helps in some small way
I would've thought if the fees had been paid already then this would be reflected on the ICSID tracker. It seems to have been pretty up-to-date to this point. Anyway I'm sure we'll find out from the company or another channel soon enough
 
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tolate

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Why? Because it's my impression every question you ask infers you are seeking evidence of someone having insider information, thats why.

But that's just my suspicious nature

The last announcement says AVZ no longer needs to draw upon the Locke funding facility, as CATH has provided a Pre-Completion funding facility. Not sure that can be read any other way than that no drawdowns had taken place.

I don't know for sure, but as an educated guess, I would say the funds raised from Convertible Noteholders was possibly used to pay the fees, or simply out of the general pot. I think it's too early to say the CATH funds are available, and AVZ say as much - 'end of January for $10m'

I'm assuming the fees have been paid - I don't know that either, but I am relying on comments from credible others. In the end it's a minor detail as they have a few more weeks to pay anyway

Hope this helps in some small way
The last ann says AVZ no longer needs to draw upon the LOCKE as CATh has provided a PRE COMPLETION FUNDING FACILITY .

Now what is a PRE
A pre-funding agreement is a contract between an agency and a recipient that outlines how funding will be provided and used.

""""The agreement may also include conditions that the recipient must meet.""""

So not as straight forward as others are saying...imo BECAUSE CATH has included conditions...!!!
 

Xerof

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PRE-COMPLETION you twat

Thats pre-completion of the JV and other arrangements etc etc - no strings attached, only the usual 'no material adverse change and standard conditions' etc - 10m unsecured

everything else relates to the JV

margarita time down the road for me - bye

This post was to correct the bullshit and misinformation contained in the post that was reported and taken down within 5 minutes, bye again
 
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but don't know if there's any corresponding restrictions for AVZ to sell to a saudi company for example.

Saudi's and CATH would probably be quite happy with a JV. Both own the mine, CATH makes batteries in middle east
AVZ gonna last about 2 seconds after the ML is secured imo . Someone must have shown the thickheads in the DRC Gov the amount of $$$ they gonna get from the sale . Now they be on the down low working out what offshore bank accounts they can stuff a $$Billion $$ into . imo
 
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The use of the word HOSTILITY has many connotations which can be misinterpreted many ways....

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No one has been " hostile " to @Ancient and no one has been " hostile " to you either, nor the fact you " cop it regurlarly ".......complete BS!

You are one of the most revered posters on this forum carlos.

This is a discussion form, where vigorous debate is a healthy thing, big difference between that and hostile .......IMO

"Just ask anyone claiming as fact that the outstanding fees at the ICSID had been paid with Locke funds lol "

Btw, nice subtle dig, could i construe that as being hostile ?

If you dont believe me, contact the BOD bud.
I detect a slight undertone of jealousy that sandgropers have a slight advantage, the AGM is always in their backyard.

The Sandgropers can take the full benefit of free coffee with biccies.
And after have the ability to do some networking with the BOD, while having a tube of West Ozzie Ale, or a Margaret river Shiraz

At least John the winking Greek and Nelle the bridge streaker make the effort of sampling the beauty of Western Australia and exchanging jokes with the BOD.

On special request of Nelle, Perth has built a couple extra bridges across the Swan river, real beauties.
It can be now streaking without the need to dodge rubber necking West Aussies car drivers, the best rubber neckers in the country.

So Perth is well prepared for the landing of the ML.
 
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Well I went out today to buy a pair of camouflage pants , but I could not find any
 
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Well I went out today to buy a pair of camouflage pants , but I could not find any
In keeping with the theme...

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cruiser51

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AVZ gonna last about 2 seconds after the ML is secured imo . Someone must have shown the thickheads in the DRC Gov the amount of $$$ they gonna get from the sale . Now they be on the down low working out what offshore bank accounts they can stuff a $$Billion $$ into . imo
There is something written in the JV about selling/transferring, timing and FROR of shares in the Dathcom JV.

For the exact wording, I have to go through the entire document and translate again.

There is a certain timing before which shares in Dathcom could not be transferred.
Cominiere did a song and dance act, when AVZ made its intentions aware regarding funding the project, but AVZ stuck to the rules and never sold, or transferred anything.
All AVZ did, it made its JV partners aware of AVZ's intention. Which is all above board.
Even today's contract with CATH, there is no transfer of shares until the date of sale/tranfer point is reached.

The contract with CATH is merely an indication of intent, that a sale will go ahead at such time that the possible contractual date for the transfer of shares has been reached. Like an 'I'm gunna letter'.
The sale or transfer of any shares can not take place without those contractually obligations being met.

Over the last few years Cominiere believed, they were above the law and could do anything they liked, against their signed contractual obligations,
Even illegally cancelling the 13359 tenement, re-dividing the lease and giving the northern section away for a large paper cheque, which never made it into the coffers of the DRC state.

Funny thing Cami is now asking for 10% of this stolen lease, It is like a fucking soap opera.

And CKK is going to sell electricity from a power station, he doesn't own, or knows how to operate, CKK's speciality is fucking people over and licking rocks, not running power stations. Fucking idiot.
 
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tolate

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PRE-COMPLETION you twat

Thats pre-completion of the JV and other arrangements etc etc - no strings attached, only the usual 'no material adverse change and standard conditions' etc - 10m unsecured

everything else relates to the JV

margarita time down the road for me - bye

This post was to correct the bullshit and misinformation contained in the post that was reported and taken down within 5 minutes, bye again
Maybe we should show the COMAPNY ANNOUNCEMENT and conditions...!"""""""DONT see no J V mentioned""""

Pre-Completion Funding Agreement

The Pre-Completion Funding Agreement is intended to fund certain expenditures of AVZ and also AVZ corporate costs and meet ongoing working capital requirements.
Pre-Completion Funding Agreement Committed Amount •
Up to US$20,000,000. Conditions to Drawdown • No material adverse change and no default or potential default has occurred and is continuing • Other customary conditions to drawdown for a facility of this nature
Availability Period •
The funds will be available to AVZ until the earlier of: - a Mining Licence is granted over the Manono Project and completion of the revised TIA; or - completion of scheduled drawdowns in December 2025 or in 2026.
Drawdown •
Drawdowns scheduled as US$10m by end of January 2025, plus two further US$5m drawdowns as and when required by AVZ’s budgeted requirements
Use of funds •
Funds received must be applied to pay AVZ’s costs in respect of efforts to secure the Manono Project and for AVZ corporate costs Interest rate • Funds advanced will attract interest at a rate of 9% per annum • Interest will be capitalised

Repayment •
Funds advanced plus interest will be repaid from proceeds of the Manono Project acquisition price payable by CATH on grant of the Mining Licence and completion of the revised TIA; or • Repayable in full on 31 December 2027.
Security
• The facility will be unsecured for the first US$10m drawdowns • CATH will require security is granted as a condition to the further US$10m utilisation which will also cover the first US$10m drawdowns

Joint strategy •
AVZ and CATH have agreed to work collaboratively to constructively engage with the DRC Government to secure and accelerate the development of the Manono Project.
• AVZ and CATH are committed to resolve the relevant issues in order to see the Manono Project through to production.
 

Frank

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AVZ gonna last about 2 seconds after the ML is secured imo . Someone must have shown the thickheads in the DRC Gov the amount of $$$ they gonna get from the sale . Now they be on the down low working out what offshore bank accounts they can stuff a $$Billion $$ into . imo
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