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Winenut

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Ashlee

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And they are still trying to get info for their bosses about what is really going on.

If that fails they resort to step 2, bait, derail and destruct.

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I am interested on members thoughts on when the Company might pay the fees to the ISCID.
 
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BEISHA

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Happy new year all !

So what will 2025 bring to the table ?

Same shit different year ?

Fucked if i know, but as always, I will continue to remain positive and hope this article has some truth in it, i think this has been shared before but doesnt hurt to present it again.


Cmon Nige, make a deal son !
 
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I am interested on members thoughts on when the Company might pay the fees to the ISCID.
Would you wait and see if the Locke Funding has an influence on decisions made ? It's just taken 2.5 years for the China / DRC Gov to realize their stall tactics haven't worked . Give these Corrupt f--kers one last chance to reconsider , then lock and load the ICSID if they would rather remain low life Corrupt Criminal Scumbags . Simples
 
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Hudnut

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Nope. Pay the fees anyway and keep proceedings underway.
The bastards will agree to anything and then renege to make another delay.
No more chances. Fukkum.
Keep going until we see cold hard cash in our hands.
 
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Winenut

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I am interested on members thoughts on when the Company might pay the fees to the ISCID.
I thought they would have before the end of December

I can't recall exactly how long they have to pay before the action/case lapses

We're paying for both parties if my memory serves me correctly

I haven't read up (in a hurry to get somewhere right now) but here's a link to ICC and ICSID fee schedules

Hope it maybe helps

https://iccwbo.org/dispute-resolution/dispute-resolution-services/arbitration/costs-and-payment/

https://icsid.worldbank.org/services/cost-of-proceedings/schedule-fees/2023
 
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I am interested on members thoughts on when the Company might pay the fees to the ISCID.
I think It will only pay if the negotiations that are likely in play at this time break down.

Some see it as a negative not having paid the outstanding fee's, however I still presently chose to see it as a positive that we have not paid the fee's, maybe a deal has been struck or is close.

I realise that the recent AFP issue adds a degree of confusion or complexity to what might be in play at this time, but it's difficult to calculate what it's overall effect will be on our success without more factual details imo.
 
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I think It will only pay if the negotiations that are likely in play at this time break down.

Some see it as a negative not having paid the outstanding fee's, however I still presently chose to see it as a positive that we have not paid the fee's, maybe a deal has been struck or is close.

I realise that the recent AFP issue adds a degree of confusion or complexity to what might be in play at this time, but it's difficult to calculate what it's overall effect will be on our success without more factual details imo.
or nige is getting played again
 
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Do we expect an announcement regarding paying the fees?

No way Nigel is getting played again. The path from now on is crystal clear. Paying the fees, negotiate and push ahead the arbitration.
 
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Do we expect an announcement regarding paying the fees?

No way Nigel is getting played again. The path from now on is crystal clear. Paying the fees, negotiate and push ahead the arbitration.
Silence is golden .Better to keep idiots like tolate running round in circles jumping at shadows .
 
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Hemicuda

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Do we expect an announcement regarding paying the fees?

No way Nigel is getting played again. The path from now on is crystal clear. Paying the fees, negotiate and push ahead the arbitration.
yup clear as mud
 

Panther22

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Would you wait and see if the Locke Funding has an influence on decisions made ? It's just taken 2.5 years for the China / DRC Gov to realize their stall tactics haven't worked . Give these Corrupt f--kers one last chance to reconsider , then lock and load the ICSID if they would rather remain low life Corrupt Criminal Scumbags . Simples
I'm with you Wombat. Set a deadline for negotiated settlement talks or suspend all discussions and go full bore ICC and ICSID. Pay the fees and wait till June. Insist all the daily fines are paid when due. It's not as if this would deprive the locals of income because the DRC Government and Celestin are doing that to their own people anyway.
This way we don't have to guess where we are going and we are all fairly confident we will win. Obviously getting paid would be the next issue but it would send the message to every other foreign Country to look elsewhere and steer well clear of the DRC.
 
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BEISHA

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Yes maybe not shadows, but definitely left in the DARK...!
Maybe one would ASSUME, the true idiots are the ones throwing more money at AVZ ..imo
Nigel is failing AVZ S H ....imo
The MESS is still a MESS..!
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How on earth did you escape my IGNORE function ?

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I am interested on members thoughts on when the Company might pay the fees to the ISCID.
I thought they would have before the end of December

I can't recall exactly how long they have to pay before the action/case lapses

We're paying for both parties if my memory serves me correctly

I haven't read up (in a hurry to get somewhere right now) but here's a link to ICC and ICSID fee schedules

Hope it maybe helps

https://iccwbo.org/dispute-resolution/dispute-resolution-services/arbitration/costs-and-payment/

https://icsid.worldbank.org/services/cost-of-proceedings/schedule-fees/2023
I think It will only pay if the negotiations that are likely in play at this time break down.

Some see it as a negative not having paid the outstanding fee's, however I still presently chose to see it as a positive that we have not paid the fee's, maybe a deal has been struck or is close.

I realise that the recent AFP issue adds a degree of confusion or complexity to what might be in play at this time, but it's difficult to calculate what it's overall effect will be on our success without more factual details imo.
We have until the 5th of February to pay and even then proceedings only 'may' be discontinued

DRC will pay their fees when we do. There is no point for them to move the case forward as the respondent when the claimants haven't paid imo


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I am interested on members thoughts on when the Company might pay the fees to the ISCID.
At the AGM Nigel advised he would be making the first draw down on Locke Funds the following week to pay the outstanding legal fees.
I would not expect an announcement,but consider it already done 😉
 
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At the AGM Nigel advised he would be making the first draw down on Locke Funds the following week to pay the outstanding legal fees.
I would not expect an announcement,but consider it already done 😉
You should let the ICSID know ;)


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