AVZ Discussion 2022

Samus

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Good work on flying the AVZ flag on twitter mate. I do think we have to be really careful calling the DRC Government incompetent though, especially if it is obvious it comes from AVZ holders. We don't want to offend the DRC people. Hopefully with mining journalists like Franck being involved there will be more awareness as to how much better off the DRC people would be with AVZ as opposed to China/Zijin.

I do agree though, the lack of action is extremely frustrating.
Perhaps at the same time these DRC politicians need to be aware that the foreign investors they are trying to attract are watching with interest and looking forward to seeing the full force of the law against the illegal and corrupt practices that are of full display here. Good for them to know they're not operating in some DRC bubble and are fully on display to the world.

Half of this stuff you wouldn't get away with in a year 9 legal studies court case mock up.
 
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BRICK

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oh great the arseclown is back just before the 1st, who would of thought, and yeah as I've brought up here many times, tantalex have tailings rights in the area, but now Franck says that's sold too, and it's not on the portal, even though I've read about 10 articles in the last few months stating tantalex/Klaus have the rights, either way now it's another pls explain..."permit expired and its on top of our land that we are paying surface rights for and now we're told its sold as well"....seriously wtf is going here lol, and now also AJN/Klaus are in the area and so to is one of Zijin's new PR's while they try to rape our 15% and Cong coming in from the rear too. Cong, Zijin and Klaus think that they own whatever the fuk they want to own and they clearly have connections in most departments that matter.

ffs every single government departement in the DRC could not be more of a disorganised pack of useless shit talkers if they tried, don't get me wrong it's clear Felix and a few others are trying to fix 'some' things but look what they're up against, it's apparent to me that Felix's way of helping is to sell the DRC to foreign investors beyond China and just hope they muscle out the Chinese and justice prevails, but instead all he's creating is a shitstorm or legal proceedings that thus far have been judged by a corrupt court system and ruled against the foreign investors he's tried to bring in, unfortunately it's not working but I give full credit to Felix and Co. for being better than all their opposition.

Felix you need to stop selling to the world and just concentrate on cleaning up the corruption, clearly easier said than done. But come on, 'Oh battery hub, let's have another 20 conferences and instigate talks with another 20 countries and 20 foreign companies who will get raped in the DRC too because the entire system is in support of Chinese brown paper bags. START ISSUING SOME PRESIDENTIAL DECREES, or watch your country and your presidency go down the dunny.

Nige $2 takeover, sell it off mate, let the seagulls devour themselves over there, fuk me. Seriously not joking, if we stay suspended after the 1st, then unless a resolution is actually imminent(not AVZ imminent) then sell it off. I'll even take $1.70-$1.80 and sit back and watch the shitshow unfold with my money in my pocket. Is it worth more? hell yes, but who's gonna sort this shit out in a few weeks??? hope I'm wrong, but hmmmm
Getting to the pointy end now.

 
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John25

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I don't think they're corrupt but they're walking a tight rope, one I'd never want to walk, unless I had a death wish, because I'd bring down the hammer swiftly:p

The problem is not so much losing as it is how long this will take to clean up properly. We could potentially be suspended until at least late this year if the progress remains at this speed, or come out of suspension prior to that with a management assurance that we are all good, which won't be good for the SP while all this shit continues in the background. All I can say is I hope I'm wrong and there's some bloody serious talks going on behind closed doors, and if there's not AVZ management right now would be thinking fuk a duk wth are we going to tell our shareholders for the next 3-9months(a guess) while this cesspool of fecal matter is hopefully sorted.

Two letters Nige: T O ...if you can get us at least $1.70

CATH we don't have your 24% but for circa $6-7b you can have majority ownership eg. everything we've got, and not even we are sure what % that is, go sort it out with ya mates, whom I'm sure you've been speaking to anyway

but yeah 15% just sold for $33m so at 75% best case AVZ is worth $165m(4.5cents) TO to these Chinese frauds?, fuk off, these same frauds have paid $1-3b TO's for resources not even 1/4 of Manono's potential....what an absolute shitshow, even the $240m for 24% is bs considering they haven't paid it....I'd dead set rather pay them the $20m and then turn around and say you can have ya 24% ONLY if you pay for a 10mtpa mine yourself straight out(and 24% of everything thereafter), otherwise eff off, cos we dont trust you either, and we'll do a CR or get other finance for the mine etc and ditch as many Chinamen as we can......orrrrr you can have your 24% for $240m if you go fight ya chinese dogs(Cong, Zijin, and Klaus) off and get them to withdraw their claims for any % and tailings on our ground...how's that sound cathy baby? yes? ok great, no? ok go hurry up and build the battery hub so we can feed it, in the mean time we'll go take some offtake offerings after PLS's latest auction compared to the price you offered us long ago while ya kept ya $240m in ya pocket, trying to hold all the cards.

How'd we get here? oh yeah, frauds paying money to the frauds and thus far not a single word from the government....they better bloody be doing something behind those closed doors
Whats happened in the last 3 weeks thats turned to shit ,everything was fine & chummy ..Xmas champagne on ice with corks to pop according to Nige ..A new ATH then “POW” Halt followed by suspension ..Where’s our fearless leader ,had plenty of time to talk about Worlds best/largest deposite but tomorrow we need to come out of suspension .You can’t tell me this shit wasnt going down whilst we were trading .The DRC government are all over travelling ,photo shoots talking it up on the world stage ,shaking hands with X,Y & Z but get things sorted …Im with you TO @ $1.50+ & Get the fuck out of there …
 
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tonster66

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give (someone) enough rope​

If you give someone the opportunity to do something wrong or detrimental to themselves, they will usually do it; one does not need to interfere to bring about someone's downfall. The full version is "Give one enough rope, and one will hang oneself."

This is the stance that I believe the DRC government and AVZ have taken throughout this scenario. How much easier is it now to get rid of Jijin.
 
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John25

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Ok ok ok …Have had my early 4.50am vent ..feeling a bit better now ive had coffee :) …enjoy your day …
 
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Ozthescot

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So anyone for a bet there will be some shit short article out before kick off tomorrow?!

I'm willing to bet there will be some sort of attempt! 🙄
 
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BRICK

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So anyone for a bet there will be some shit short article out before kick off tomorrow?!

I'm willing to bet there will be some sort of attempt! 🙄
Im 65% there will be another extension and 45% i hope the fuck we smash it out of the park.

 
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DiscoDanNZ

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So anyone for a bet there will be some shit short article out before kick off tomorrow?!

I'm willing to bet there will be some sort of attempt! 🙄

With all the obvious trademarks that take 10 seconds for a regular holder to see through but the hot crapper trolls lap it up as gospel.

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TDITD

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So anyone for a bet there will be some shit short article out before kick off tomorrow?!

I'm willing to bet there will be some sort of attempt! 🙄
Yea been wondering if they have learnt from last time, maybe they will release something once we are out ?
 
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Bray

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It’s no wonder these types of countries remain under developed in all aspects, obviously there’s so many variables involved but they just seem a little retarded
 
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Ozthescot

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Im 65% there will be another extension and 45% i hope the fuck we smash it out of the park.


Here's hoping it's the latter!
 
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Ozthescot

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With all the obvious trademarks that take 10 seconds for a regular holder to see through but the hot crapper trolls lap it up as gospel.
Yeah doesn't take long to smell the bullshit, that's for sure.
 
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Im 65% there will be another extension and 45% i hope the fuck we smash it out of the park.



I just hope they take their time, and stay suspended until such time as they have a clear statement from DRC authorities as to the current holding percentages.

Best guess is a further suspension.
 
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Birdman7

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Like others here I am finding the silence RE AVZ from both the DRC government and Nigel and The BoD deafening. While thrashing it out in my own mind I came up with a theory on what I hope is the reason for the lack of a response from both Gov and AVZ.

Given the volume of misinformation out there the quiet strategy could work providing they are in fact holding a good hand. If The DRC and AVZ were to make comment can you imagine the shit storm that would rain down on them by the opposition parties trying to discredit them. DRC and AVZ are then put in a position of defending their stated position or reverting to their strategy of silence. Both of which would only then provide fodder for the trolls. By remaining silent they are able to release whatever information they choose at a time of their choosing, a far better option than getting dragged into a damaging tit for tat with people who’s position will not change no matter how much truth is put in front of them. In this instance a small target strategy may be the best option.

It shits me too tears that this has occurred and it certainly chips away at one’s faith in human nature. However I still hold and will continue to hold for the very same reasons I bought in the first place.

As I said, Just a theory to help fill the void.

Good luck to all long term holders.

Birdman
 
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BEISHA

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Fyi, Fwiw, Anywhere between 0.02c and $1.50 atm :ROFLMAO: :unsure: ;)

Westpac joins banks offering cheaper loans for electric and hybrid vehicles​


One of Australia’s Big Four banks, Westpac, has launched an offer of lower interest rate loans for customers buying a new or used hybrid or electric vehicle.

The banking giant says it did its own research and found that more than two thirds (67%) of Australians were citing cost as the biggest barrier to buying a hybrid or electric vehicle.

To help overcome that barrier, Westpac is offering a new loan product targeting new or used (up to seven years’ old) hybrid or fully electric cars of anywhere between $10,000 – $100,000 at a fixed interest rate of 4.99% p.a. (compared to 6.21% p.a.) over 1-7 years.

There are some basic requirements for eligibility and a list of eligible cars – it’s 93 pages long and covers a LOT of non-plug-in hybrids) – and the bank also offers loans at 10% greater than the amount of the chosen car, to cover on-road costs.

Westpac says the survey of its customers also found that 70% of Australians plan to own a hybrid or electric vehicle in “the future,” with 34% of current petrol and diesel car drivers looking to make the switch for their next auto purchase.

“We know that cost is one of the biggest barriers to hybrid and electric vehicle uptake, so this offer can help more customers transition to a greener vehicle,” said Chris de Bruin, Westpac chief of consumer and business banking.

“Given the recent increase in petrol prices, electric and hybrid vehicles appeal to the environmentally conscious, and the financially conscious too.

“We expect demand for these vehicles will continue to rise, with many Australians already planning to make the change,” de Bruin added.

“We’re also seeing new government incentives, improved access to charging stations, and more manufacturers offering hybrid and electric vehicles, which will help accelerate the transition.”


Behyad Jafari, CEO of the Electric Vehicle Council said the new offer from Westpac represented another opportunity for Australians to save by going electric.

“We know the majority of Australians are now actively considering an electric vehicle as their next car and this initiative will help them make the shift.

“Given the average Australian household currently spends $3,700 a year on petrol and diesel, the purchase of an electric vehicle would ease real pressure on the monthly budget.”

Westpac is not the only Australian bank offering EV-friendly loans.

Macqurie Bank offers rates starting from 3.99% per annum as part of a specialised electric vehicle buying service that it has set up “to make the transition easier.”

Bendigo Bank, which has offered a “green loan” product for 20 years, earlier this year announced that the interest rate for a secured Green Loan to buy a second-hand EV would be reduced by 180 basis points to 4.99%.

Pepper Money – which is the company through which Tesla does its EV financing in Australia – also offers a fixed 3.99% p.a. with no ongoing monthly fees and “a host of soon-to-be-announced benefits” for the purchase of an EV.

Pepper’s electric car loan calculator offers an estimate on repayments for a new or used EV and claims to have financed one in nine electric vehicles sold in Australia, thus far.


Plenti, meanwhile, offers a slightly higher interest rate – from 5.49% p.a. – but perhaps offsets that with no monthly fees, no early repayment fees and the ability to be able to “bundle” the costs of buying an EV, including home charging and a promise of future access to discounted comprehensive insurance.


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Food for thought on the Road buying a new or used EV.
This is perfect for you Frank, your current car looks like this doesnt it ?




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DiscoDanNZ

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I started to hope that the suspension was put in until Wednesday because there was going to be some big level government work booked in for Friday or Monday and with Monday and Tuesday to allow for translation and prepping the blockbuster announcement stopping all this ownership dispute dead in the water and we resume trading with a massive upswing and we all retire...

Still could happen but there isn't much chatter coming out to back up my theory
 
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Remark

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A lot of tired longs calling for TO's that a week ago they would have laughed at.

Stay strong people. In Nige we trust.
 
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I started to hope that the suspension was put in until Wednesday because there was going to be some big level government work booked in for Friday or Monday and with Monday and Tuesday to allow for translation and prepping the blockbuster announcement stopping all this ownership dispute dead in the water and we resume trading with a massive upswing and we all retire...

Still could happen but there isn't much chatter coming out to back up my theory
Could be due to DRC Mining week starting June 1st till the 3rd.

Although I'm not sure if AVZ have a stall?


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