AVZ Discussion 2022

[Carlos Danger]

Interesting. So with the south 66% do you think that would be just by selling the 9% to CATL and then potentially having Zijin in the south aswell stealing the 15% remaining from Comineire?
Or do you think we would get that remaining 15% for the south and then sell the 24% to CATL?

I think it would be a bigger win for us if we get to take the 15% from Comineire for the south and only flick 9% to CATL as previously mentioned so that we have a larger holding in the South (Zijin are okay with just having part of the North. Why wouldn't you when you can get it for fuck all hey...)

Nigels offhand comments from the AGM were something along the lines of 60/40 for the north, however when the Gov realised they need to pay the CAPEX we could end up with 70% for the north, which i guess would leave 20% to Zijin then.....

CATL gets to have a % ownership in the south and then to have the offtake agreement for the Northern area but no Ownership stake in that.

Whatever the fuck happens, it better be one of the first things on the toothless tigers list in January to sit down and negotiate. Zijin/DRC's hands will soon be tied hopefully by ICSID. Time to progress like you say.

All ICC outcomes resolved in our favour would mean we get to enforce our FROR on the 15% from Cominiere. We then sell 24% to CATH. We need their funds to comply with the mining code. Or we could sell some or all of it to someone else but unlikely imo

If management can negotiate us still having majority of the north with Zijin in minority I would be ecstatic but I doubt it

It's complete madness that this has been allowed to drift on so long. I'd honestly rather just get rat fucked and know that going the distance at arbitration is the only possible outcome rather than this indecisive bullshit.

 

[Carlos Danger]

I dont think anyone really knows what the MOU consists of or with whom....

In my mind, FT would essentially want to avoid ICSID arbitration but at the same time, would still want to appease China, the hand that has fed DRC for over 30 yrs, so if Zijin is China mouth piece then i suspect they will be involved in negotiations regards to CDL

I dont think AVZ have a view of selling, more a like a JV arrangement, like a Zijin / AVZ ( 70/30 split), with AVZ having a free carry position until DTM.

imo

 

[Carlos Danger]

65 years old and never been so frustrated , but yes I get it , i'm 6 months in Java and 6 months in oz back to oz next week so I will be off the local vodka and my head will be clearer , yes you are correct if I say one thing out of place to my 28 year old its on .

Mate even without my AVZ shares I'm a millionaire with zero debt in my 30's and this shit frustrates me too

But you should channel that anger into being bigoted against the only group that is allowed to be made fun of by woke idiots if you don't want to get in trouble

In my experience white men from America are fair game for racist slurs

 

[Dave Evans]

Mate even without my AVZ shares I'm a millionaire with zero debt in my 30's and this shit frustrates me too

But you should channel that anger into being bigoted against the only group that is allowed to be made fun of by woke idiots if you don't want to get in trouble

In my experience white men from America are fair game for racist slurs

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Here’s a racist sketch for you, now can you lend us a couple of bob

 

[Splinter]

Mate even without my AVZ shares I'm a millionaire with zero debt in my 30's and this shit frustrates me too

But you should channel that anger into being bigoted against the only group that is allowed to be made fun of by woke idiots if you don't want to get in trouble

In my experience white men from America are fair game for racist slurs

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Mate even without my AVZ shares I'm a millionaire with zero debt in my 30's and this shit frustrates me too

But you should channel that anger into being bigoted against the only group that is allowed to be made fun of by woke idiots if you don't want to get in trouble

In my experience white men from America are fair game for racist slurs

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[Carlos Danger]

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Your only other 2 posts have been to insult the bod and joke about disabled porn. Jog on dickhead. Feel free to ignore me if you don't like my contributions.

 

[The Fox]

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Hey fuck stick, got anything of value to say? Maybe best you crawl back under your rock ya weak ass useless kunt.

 

[Remark]

Hey fuck stick, got anything of value to say? Maybe best you crawl back under your rock ya weak ass useless kunt.

See, we're all better if we unite against a common foe. Oh, and he spelt Sphincter wrong

 

[The Fox]

See, we're all better if we unite against a common foe. Oh, and he spelt Sphincter wrong

Yeh, another stock sucker who has kissed his money goodbye so funny,

 

[The Fox]

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Yeh, nice one, Just another stock sucker who has kissed his money goodbye, so funny,

 

[Stockinvesting]

Yeh, nice one, Just another stock sucker who has kissed his money goodbye, so funny,

Hey Fox. Why so harsh on Splinter? Reality is, Carlos may have been a bit insensitive, telling us all he's rich in his 30's with no debt. He was I believe replying to a poster who's doing it a bit tough.

Carlos, if what you stated is true, well done. Amazing in fact. But IMO, it's a funny way of showing support.

As far as "kissing money goodbye", we all have unless something pretty farking miraculous happens soon.

No offence meant to anyone here.
We've all been given SOLID info which turned to poop. I definitely have, posted it and have been very disappointed.

Back to our current situation.

DRC still don't have a president.
Who do we deal with?

IMO if Felix gets back in we'll be worse off. Snout in the trough?
Absolutely. Second time around, watch out. He's as corrupt as any of his ministers and has been completely at ease with watching us be frozen out of this mine by his Chinese masters.

Like a lot of posters, I stand to make good coin if we ever resist.

I'd love to read a cogent argument telling me I'm wrong, and where I've missed evidence we're on the improve and on the way to mining.

Remember, Felix got in in 2016 I believe, pretty much when a lot of LTH bought in. Still no ML!.

 

[Carlos Danger]

Reality is, Carlos may have been a bit insensitive, telling us all he's rich in his 30's with no debt. He was I believe replying to a poster who's doing it a bit tough.

Carlos, if what you stated is true, well done. Amazing in fact. But IMO, it's a funny way of showing support.

@Pokok laughed at what I said because he understood the point I was making

'White liberals have to start listening to me when I tell them; you can't be more offended than the victim'
- Bill Maher

 

[Pokok]

Hey Fox. Why so harsh on Splinter? Reality is, Carlos may have been a bit insensitive, telling us all he's rich in his 30's with no debt. He was I believe replying to a poster who's doing it a bit tough.

Carlos, if what you stated is true, well done. Amazing in fact. But IMO, it's a funny way of showing support.

As far as "kissing money goodbye", we all have unless something pretty farking miraculous happens soon.

No offence meant to anyone here.
We've all been given SOLID info which turned to poop. I definitely have, posted it and have been very disappointed.

Back to our current situation.

DRC still don't have a president.
Who do we deal with?

IMO if Felix gets back in we'll be worse off. Snout in the trough?
Absolutely. Second time around, watch out. He's as corrupt as any of his ministers and has been completely at ease with watching us be frozen out of this mine by his Chinese masters.

Like a lot of posters, I stand to make good coin if we ever resist.

I'd love to read a cogent argument telling me I'm wrong, and where I've missed evidence we're on the improve and on the way to mining.

Remember, Felix got in in 2016 I believe, pretty much when a lot of LTH bought in. Still no ML!.

Thanks for the support , but I did see the funny side of it and was full of vodka that night I said the wrong thing , and yes I have been in this 2017 was willing to sell out at 50c until lots of things came to light but never to tuition , I don't trust the DRC anymore nor do I trust anybody in charge of a poor country because I have lived in a poor country for many years and money means everything , Felix and his ministers have all had plenty of time to issue the ML and it has not happened so somebody show me how this can happen , what I see happening or what I am thinking will happen I can't say for fear of offending the meek and mild , but I do see the chinese taking the north , and will try for a bigger part of the south somehow , I also can't see any money going to AVZ under court rulings , we will be making a deal and won't go mining all IMO , PS . I have not been to the bar yet and told the wife to hide the computer

 

[Stockinvesting]

Thanks for the support , but I did see the funny side of it and was full of vodka that night I said the wrong thing , and yes I have been in this 2017 was willing to sell out at 50c until lots of things came to light but never to tuition , I don't trust the DRC anymore nor do I trust anybody in charge of a poor country because I have lived in a poor country for many years and money means everything , Felix and his ministers have all had plenty of time to issue the ML and it has not happened so somebody show me how this can happen , what I see happening or what I am thinking will happen I can't say for fear of offending the meek and mild , but I do see the chinese taking the north , and will try for a bigger part of the south somehow , I also can't see any money going to AVZ under court rulings , we will be making a deal and won't go mining all IMO , PS . I have not been to the bar yet and told the wife to hide the computer

No worries.

Good luck everyone.

 

[Dave Evans]

Hey Fox. Why so harsh on Splinter? Reality is, Carlos may have been a bit insensitive, telling us all he's rich in his 30's with no debt. He was I believe replying to a poster who's doing it a bit tough.

Carlos, if what you stated is true, well done. Amazing in fact. But IMO, it's a funny way of showing support.

As far as "kissing money goodbye", we all have unless something pretty farking miraculous happens soon.

No offence meant to anyone here.
We've all been given SOLID info which turned to poop. I definitely have, posted it and have been very disappointed.

Back to our current situation.

DRC still don't have a president.
Who do we deal with?

IMO if Felix gets back in we'll be worse off. Snout in the trough?
Absolutely. Second time around, watch out. He's as corrupt as any of his ministers and has been completely at ease with watching us be frozen out of this mine by his Chinese masters.

Like a lot of posters, I stand to make good coin if we ever resist.

I'd love to read a cogent argument telling me I'm wrong, and where I've missed evidence we're on the improve and on the way to mining.

Remember, Felix got in in 2016 I believe, pretty much when a lot of LTH bought in. Still no ML!.

You obviously don’t have any idea of what’s going on in the DRC. You can’t even get the basic facts right of when Tshisekedi became President.

That’s the trouble when people like you give opinions. I’ve read your posts, there all bullshit, not one bit of information amongst any of them.

You can’t get simple facts right and you think others here want to waste time having a cogent argument with you.

My guess is you and Splinter decided it was time to troll your way back onto the forum. Trolls usually work in pairs

 

[Aeolian]

So still no idea as to when we will get a verdict from ICSID from our emergency hearing?

9cardomaha have you heard anything?

 

[pow4ade]

Hey Fox. Why so harsh on Splinter? Reality is, Carlos may have been a bit insensitive, telling us all he's rich in his 30's with no debt. He was I believe replying to a poster who's doing it a bit tough.

Carlos, if what you stated is true, well done. Amazing in fact. But IMO, it's a funny way of showing support.

As far as "kissing money goodbye", we all have unless something pretty farking miraculous happens soon.

No offence meant to anyone here.
We've all been given SOLID info which turned to poop. I definitely have, posted it and have been very disappointed.

Back to our current situation.

DRC still don't have a president.
Who do we deal with?

IMO if Felix gets back in we'll be worse off. Snout in the trough?
Absolutely. Second time around, watch out. He's as corrupt as any of his ministers and has been completely at ease with watching us be frozen out of this mine by his Chinese masters.

Like a lot of posters, I stand to make good coin if we ever resist.

I'd love to read a cogent argument telling me I'm wrong, and where I've missed evidence we're on the improve and on the way to mining.

Remember, Felix got in in 2016 I believe, pretty much when a lot of LTH bought in. Still no ML!.

Relying on Felix to get this sorted is a joke. If only he could make his father proud, a man regarded in the DRC as the father of democracy:

Felix’s ascent to power came after very contested results and following a secret agreement of power-sharing with Kabila who left the presidential chair, but still holds the reins of many key sectors. A compromise, many whisper, Etienne himself would have opposed.

Felix positions himself as his father’s political heir, wearing the same trademark flat cap.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/6/1/father-of-democracy-drcs-etienne-tshisekedi-laid-to-rest

 

[pow4ade]

You obviously don’t have any idea of what’s going on in the DRC. You can’t even get the basic facts right of when Tshisekedi became President.

That’s the trouble when people like you give opinions. I’ve read your posts, there all bullshit, not one bit of information amongst any of them.

You can’t get simple facts right and you think others here want to waste time having a cogent argument with you.

My guess is you and Splinter decided it was time to troll your way back onto the forum. Trolls usually work in pairs

Still jumping at shadows I see. Thanx for da lolz in 23. Happy New Year, bro.

 

[cruiser51]

Todays 29/12/23 13.30 DRC news has translation available:



First ~7 minutes news on elections.

Happy New Year.

 

[Peterg]

Avz needs to apply to the courts for seizure of the DRC assets, if this is possible. I can't see this being a good outcome as the DRC is in the dirty pocket of the Chinese.