AVZ Discussion 2022

[DiscoDanNZ]

The mods must have locked themselves out of their accounts on the crapper, I can't believe this post is still up with the URL for here in the screen shot...

https://hotcrapper.com.au/threads/a...on-extension.6753925/page-51?post_id=61521874

Could be a handy link to get some more invites out I'm sure we are still missing people here.

 

[cruiser51]

Btw

I like it that CATH is still at arms length.
Nigel might have to keep them at arms length for an extended time and look for alternative funding.

I hope Nigel will never allow the Chinese to get a majority interest.

Zijin made it clear they wish to team up with their Chinese compatriots, well they have they hope 30%, but that is disputed.

AVZ has 60% and that is not disputed and 15% which is disputed.

Just keep on extending the Cath deal until such time the rest is indisputable 75%, the longer the delay, the higher the price.

For Dathcom to obtain the ML, they have to pay the surface rights.
Dathcom owners will have to reimburse Dathcom

 

[wombat74]

Post from PAZBOZ on that other site
"ICC arbitration was if mutual agreement was between AVZ Minerals and Zijin .
IMO this now would have changed to multiple parties involment.
DRC has publicly announced through a government enquiry that Comminiere another government department acted illegally in transferring shares to Zijin.
So will Zijin foolishly continue to seek arbitration in France or simply cut its losses .
Or go to France against DRC government plus AVZ minerals .
Jeopardising existing good will with other operating projects in the DRC.
IMO a withdrawal of arbitration in France will occur from Zijin and 15 % first right from Comminiere to AVZ minerals."
ALL IMO

 

[JAG]

HAHAHAHAHAHA.....Mr Langford is back for another crack....fucking twat!!!!

 

[JAG]

 

[DiscoDanNZ]

HAHAHAHAHAHA.....Mr Langford is back for another crack....fucking twat!!!!

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Is that TreeWallaby or whatever other names he went by?

 

[CHB]

I suspect the way any "takeover" would work is another entity (Zijin) would buy out AVZ's interest in Dathcom (which is the company that will hold the mining license and is not an Oz domiciled entity)

Whatever that % interest of AVZ in Dathcom is (75%, 66%, 51%???????????....who fkn knows)

FIRB nil involvement.....not their turf

Then I suspect AVZ would either keep that money and look for another resource (good luck finding another once in a lifetime Manono....)

OR

Distribute the proceeds to all the shareholders of AVZ, wind up the company, and everyone rides off into the sunset

We pocket a buck fiddy to 2 bucks and the DRC get's completely fkd over by Chinese interests, corruption continues to run rife and the Congolese population continue to suffer ongoing predation, pain and poverty

Great outcome....

Nige planning for this already with his comments about planning for another project?

I've always wondered about planning for another project when we could have so many expansions to work on with manono itself.

 

[John25]

I suspect the way any "takeover" would work is another entity (Zijin) would buy out AVZ's interest in Dathcom (which is the company that will hold the mining license and is not an Oz domiciled entity)

Whatever that % interest of AVZ in Dathcom is (75%, 66%, 51%???????????....who fkn knows)

FIRB nil involvement.....not their turf

Then I suspect AVZ would either keep that money and look for another resource (good luck finding another once in a lifetime Manono....)

OR

Distribute the proceeds to all the shareholders of AVZ, wind up the company, and everyone rides off into the sunset

We pocket a buck fiddy to 2 bucks and the DRC get's completely fkd over by Chinese interests, corruption continues to run rife and the Congolese population continue to suffer ongoing predation, pain and poverty

Great outcome....

I’m with you WN ....show me the $$$$ and I’m out .....you don’t Ferk with these ferkers

 

[Xerof]

Nige planning for this already with his comments about planning for another project?

I've always wondered about planning for another project when we could have so many expansions to work on with manono itself.

Not a chance, if matters go our way. He said diversification, not divestment

And you guys are too easily influenced by the crap being put out there. Reassess when Nigel speaks, and we come out of suspension, but don't throw the towel in now

There was always going to be a shit fight for the most fantastic project going. remember, the front door is shut, so they only have the back and side doors to try and enter. Both are apparently locked

 

[John25]

Not a chance, if matters go our way. He said diversification, not divestment

And you guys are too easily influenced by the crap being put out there. Reassess when Nigel speaks, and we come out of suspension, but don't throw the towel in now

There was always going to be a shit fight for the most fantastic project going. remember, the front door is shut, so they only have the back and side doors to try and enter. Both are apparently locked

My back door is ALWAYS locked

 

[CHB]

Not a chance, if matters go our way. He said diversification, not divestment

And you guys are too easily influenced by the crap being put out there. Reassess when Nigel speaks, and we come out of suspension, but don't throw the towel in now

There was always going to be a shit fight for the most fantastic project going. remember, the front door is shut, so they only have the back and side doors to try and enter. Both are apparently locked

Definitely not throwing in the towel.

It has definitely been an eye opener though..not about nige..or about china.. but about DRC gov

 

[Winenut]

Not a chance, if matters go our way. He said diversification, not divestment

And you guys are too easily influenced by the crap being put out there. Reassess when Nigel speaks, and we come out of suspension, but don't throw the towel in now

There was always going to be a shit fight for the most fantastic project going. remember, the front door is shut, so they only have the back and side doors to try and enter. Both are apparently locked

Certainly not throwing in the towel

Just waiting for the next announcement and taking it from there

Like the footy except it's one "announcement" at a time

 

[Winenut]

My back door is ALWAYS locked

Does make one wonder what the "side" door is ???

 

[BEISHA]

Hi All

I invested in AVZ , not just for the monetary gain, but the hope it would also change DRC poverty cycle and more importantly, save the planet.

Make no mistake AVZ can really make a difference to both scenarios big time as per the bubble chart.

That AVZ bubble is just Roche Dure alone, add CDL to the mix and AVZ bubble completely shadows the collective of all other participants.

Unfortunately, the one negative that i have always had with AVZ, (100% offtake involvement with China, China been in Africa / DRC for over 30 yrs, they have road and belt initiatives too, massive influence), was the control aspect, for a long while there, i thought it was going to be a non issue, (especially when the FIRB made it clear that no more than 10% foreign interest was allowable) with barely a squeek being said of any misappropriation , even up to the ML decree...............until now.

How convenient......

Make no mistake, the collective China is trying to take control of Dathcom , to bypass the FIRB and take ultimate control of Manono by stealth with a little help of some corrupt officials of DRC / Comimiere.

This was the way that WPL / COP screwed over FAR who had pre emptive rights to buy COP percentage of the project when they indicated they wanted to sell, but WPL found a way to bend that by buying out the subsidiary coy of COP , funnily enuff, FAR took them to court thinking they had a strong case thru ICC no less...............but lost out .

Yet another case of a big predator screwing over a minor.....the Zijin affair with AVZ eerily similar.

DRC needs to show conviction in accordance with their big statements " providing a better future for their people ", eradicating corruption ", DRC is the ideal place to invest in the EV revolution "

So far their silence and lack of swift action to what appears clear cut fraud..........suggests that its all BS.

I would be lying if i said my investment with AVZ is comfortable atm...........

The silence is deafening.

imo

 

[TDITD]

Not a chance, if matters go our way. He said diversification, not divestment

And you guys are too easily influenced by the crap being put out there. Reassess when Nigel speaks, and we come out of suspension, but don't throw the towel in now

There was always going to be a shit fight for the most fantastic project going. remember, the front door is shut, so they only have the back and side doors to try and enter. Both are apparently locked

Well said Xerof,
The ease at which they now have many ready to throw in the towel….shocking. One shorting campaign and many ready to fold. As was mentioned earlier in the thread harden up.
We know what’s happened, we know the Government agency IGF called out cominiere and Zijin corruption, we know we have 1st option to the 15%, we know we are on battery council (so must have a good relationship with the government) and we know we have a giant resource to be coveted.
Go through and read past presentations, listen to interviews.
This is AVZs legacy

 

[John25]

Well said Xerof,
The ease at which they now have many ready to throw in the towel….shocking. One shorting campaign and many ready to fold. As was mentioned earlier in the thread harden up.
We know what’s happened, we know the Government agency IGF called out cominiere and Zijin corruption, we know we have 1st option to the 15%, we know we are on battery council (so must have a good relationship with the government) and we know we have a giant resource to be coveted.
Go through and read past presentations, listen to interviews.
This is AVZs legacy

Sorry ..Harden Up ..been here almost since day Dot ..seen SP go from 2c to 37c then back to 4c Read horse’s endless posts also Deboss ,was entertained by Beaner ..went through Ninja /Easter /Klaus & even this year Nige said it was going to be a good Xmas .Have well over a million shares invested at ave11c so in front 600% ..been in the AVZ trenches long enought

 

[Xerof]

Does make one wonder what the "side" door is ???

It's the second arsehole - Z holding hands with CATH

 

[BEISHA]

Not a chance, if matters go our way. He said diversification, not divestment

And you guys are too easily influenced by the crap being put out there. Reassess when Nigel speaks, and we come out of suspension, but don't throw the towel in now

There was always going to be a shit fight for the most fantastic project going. remember, the front door is shut, so they only have the back and side doors to try and enter. Both are apparently locked

I dont think anyone is seriously thinking about throwing in the towel, certainly not me, but at the same time, if you aint constantly looking at your investment from ALL ANGLES, with a clear lense, then you are doing yourself and your family an injustice.....

I like you will be looking forward to some clarity via the OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENTS .

imo

 

[CeckRaiseFold]

Sorry ..Harden Up ..been here almost since day Dot ..seen SP go from 2c to 37c then back to 4c Read horse’s endless posts also Deboss ,was entertained by Beaner ..went through Ninja /Easter /Klaus & even this year Nige said it was going to be a good Xmas .Have well over a million shares invested at ave11c so in front 600% ..been in the AVZ trenches long enought

That's a good description of my position and sentiment towards AVZ @John25 .
AVZ have done a steady job at defining and unlocking the value of this immense resource over many years Through thick and thin, missed deadlines and poorly timed CRs, etc. I never doubted the ultimate potential because of the insightful posters you mention, thanks to you all!!!! Your analysis made me consolidate all my odds and ends in mining, medical, aggri stocks into AVZ at an average of $0.063. So whether it's gonna be 75%, 66%, 51% (or even the rubbish idea of 36%) of this massive and expandable 10MTpa mine, it is in the end going to pay off nicely for who's been patient and cool headed.

 

[Frank]

The boggling thing is Frank, no word from any DRC officials about any of this right? How can that be so on their watch? Too busy promoting the country all over the world? Lol

Meanwhile us

Ituri: SOCIT denounces “the proliferation of artisanal gold mining sites by Chinese subjects”

The coordinator of the Civil Society of Ituri (SOCIT) Dieudonné Losa Dhekana, in the name of living forces, denounced the “proliferation of artisanal gold mining sites by Chinese subjects” across the province of Ituri . It was during a heated press briefing in his office.

In an open letter to Prime Minister Jean-Michel Sama Lukonde, he launched “this illicit exploitation worries the population of Ituri, which it describes as looting of its resources.

The same illicit exploitation would also be supporting armed groups in Ituri province, that is to say the presence of active armed groups around mining sites”.

SOCIT asked the head of the central government to suspend the activities of the Chinese company Kimia Mining pending, it argued, the harmonization of views with the local community, to withdraw all the mining squares held by the Chinese companies that are logging illegally and bring them to justice to compensate the local community.

SOCIT, through its coordinator, urged Prime Minister Jean-Michel Sama Lukonde to order the restitution to the local community of its concessions expropriated by Chinese companies, to launch an independent and mixed investigation to elucidate the cases of torture, sexual violence, murders that would be committed in the mining squares.

According to SOCIT, the conflicts on the mining sites between the local operators and the Chinese are becoming more and more recurrent, giving as proof the clashes between the population of the locality of Bavi in the territory of Irumu and the Chinese and the tensions observed in several mining sites located in the different localities of the territory of Mambasa, in particular the chiefdom of Bombo, Bandengaido and Muchanga.

Incidents that risk degenerating into an open conflict.

www.mediacongo