Yes, that's the hearing itself and handing down a judgement. I get that.
Once that's been done, you need to tell the person you've tried in absentia that you reckon they owe you money if you want to collect it, yes?
I was asking at what point AVZ knew, Carlos has clarified that.Yes, that's the hearing itself and handing down a judgement. I get that.
Once that's been done, you need to tell the person you've tried in absentia that you reckon they owe you money if you want to collect it, yes?
AVZ management knew immediately. Appeal was lodged 3 days after original judgement.
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Sorry I quoted you out of context...
"Now let's hop over to how AVZ do it, which is basically me copying and pasting from the above paragraph. Verbose, boring, mumbo jumbo. Basically a big TLDR every time. And yes, yes ,yes, I do get it. They need to do things this way as a requirement to shareholders but they could've also added to these releases and take a leaf out of the most basic advertising principles manual which is have a personality and keep it simple because most people don't have the bandwidth to do their own shit in the daily let alone digest reams of verbose, boring, mumbo jumbo. Especially when it looks like it has the personality of a dial tone.
I've offered to help Nigel before, via proxy and never heard a sniff back so I don't know how to solve it but what I do know is if I was an uninitiated Shareholder, who's not across the entire saga and I was trying to make sense of why I can't access my money and I get the choice of "apparently" clear, concise, visually appealing solution on a way forward > up against multi-paged A4 announcements which seems too much to understand, with no brand or personality and a bunch of potty mouthed, ALL CAPS twitter warriors seemingly aligning with them... I know which side I identify with."
Another point apart from the obvious - should Nigel be accepting advertising / marketing advice from a random person on Social Media? I sincerely hope not.
Do you think that a simple "advertising campaign" (visually appealing solution as you put it) could explain the complex matters that the BOD are dealing with? Sometimes simplicity isn't the answer.
"If you look at MMGA and how they have presented their argument they have done a very good at coming across as professional and well reasoned despite what we informed shareholders know about them. Their website is slick."
I've never thought that the MMGA website was at all slick. It looked like a cheaply put together off the shelf type setup. They even cloned Donald Trump's catchphrase. Not impressive at all.
Differences in opinion are what makes the world interesting.
I take offence to the term "tranny" - I think the correct term is "cross dresser" - not very inclusive of you there Bud!Another point apart from the obvious - should Nigel be accepting advertising / marketing advice from a random person on Social Media? I sincerely hope not.
Of course I don't think that. All relationships for any company need to be vetted with proper due diligence to ensure the right fit and obviously with sensitive material this is even more paramount. But it all starts with making contact. If someone is offering pro-bono work surely you would investigate. (obviously larger issues on the mind but here we are)
Do you think that a simple "advertising campaign" (visually appealing solution as you put it) could explain the complex matters that the BOD are dealing with? Sometimes simplicity isn't the answer.
You are confusing advertising campaigns with Brand.
Campaigns are temporary solutions and are often very short lived whereas a brand is built over time. Campaigns are selling a promise whereas brand is selling a feeling.
I've never thought that the MMGA website was at all slick. It looked like a cheaply put together off the shelf type setup. They even cloned Donald Trump's catchphrase. Not impressive at all.
I agree, it's very cookie cutter kind of stuff and the tagline is an unfortunate call back to a recalcitrant loser and worrying era. But to the less discerning eye it does the trick effectively and easy to breeze through.
Differences in opinion are what makes the world interesting.
Yes and this morning you had the opinion that it would be a great idea to turn CCK into a tranny and post it on social media.
Yay "opinions". Nailed it.
The information was spurious and without merit. Sensu stricto.I was asking at what point AVZ knew, Carlos has clarified that.
So really yes they did withhold this information from shareholders, that was the angle really.
The information was spurious and without merit. Sensu stricto.
I take offence to the term "tranny" - I think the correct term is "cross dresser" - not very inclusive of you there Bud!
Anyway, it's pointless having a discussion with a person that is always right.
Yeah a settlement based on Cong admitting the certificate was valid and all of his criminal claims were bullshitExcept we are currently looking at negotiating a settlement to expedite clearing it up so we can get out of suspension and maybe get an ML.
Nige can claim "spurious and without merit" on as many things as he likes. It doesn't mean it doesn't have a material impact on SHs.
An adverse finding on litigation from a court in the country we are operating in, is still worthy of disclosure regardless of how spurious or meritorious it is.
He’s sick of everyone’s shitMB very quiet of late .
Thought Bubble: How the hell can the Yanks standby and watch the Chinese steal one of the largest, purist lithium deposits on the face of this earth(from one of its closest allies) and then carry on with this trillion dollar IRA in an attempt to overcome China's dominance of strategic metals and REE. Not to mention the Australian governments wall of silence! Something doesn't add up. AVZ, after nearly 2 years, are obviously on their own in fending off the parasites. I am not suggesting the CATH deal be questioned in any way but could the supply agreement with CATH be the reason we have been shunned by the US and indeed our own government.
The silence is baffling!!
Except we are currently looking at negotiating a settlement to expedite clearing it up so we can get out of suspension and maybe get an ML.
Nige can claim "spurious and without merit" on as many things as he likes. It doesn't mean it doesn't have a material impact on SHs.
An adverse finding on litigation from a court in the country we are operating in, is still worthy of disclosure regardless of how spurious or meritorious it is.
I will also add that ZJ tried to change the arbitrator who granted us the Emergency Injunction for 50,000 to some other judge, but was unsuccessful - so the chances it gets increased is looking good.Update from me on ICC:
15% case JCM v AVZ, i believe we submitted request for the entire case be thrown out since the north has been returned (2nd Nov submissions)
- expected verdict on request next week.
Request to Increase Emergency Injunction fine from 50,000 Euros to 150,000 Euros per day (2nd Nov submissions)
- Expected verdict on request next week.
Jurisdictional hearing which occured in October won't have a verdict until 2024 Feb, but the request to have it thrown out will likely make this point moot.
Update from me on ICC:
15% case JCM v AVZ, i believe we submitted request for the entire case be thrown out since the north has been returned (2nd Nov submissions)
- expected verdict on request next week.
Request to Increase Emergency Injunction fine from 50,000 Euros to 150,000 Euros per day (2nd Nov submissions)
- Expected verdict on request next week.
Jurisdictional hearing which occured in October won't have a verdict until 2024 Feb, but the request to have it thrown out will likely make this point moot.
So we are going for dismissal on Zijin having no grounds to claim the 15% anymore. Makes more sense than waiting for final decision if that won't be until February. I can't imagine Zijin would want to continue anyway so should be all over.Update from me on ICC:
15% case JCM v AVZ, i believe we submitted request for the entire case be thrown out since the north has been returned (2nd Nov submissions)
- expected verdict on request next week.
Request to Increase Emergency Injunction fine from 50,000 Euros to 150,000 Euros per day (2nd Nov submissions)
- Expected verdict on request next week.
Jurisdictional hearing which occured in October won't have a verdict until 2024 Feb, but the request to have it thrown out will likely make this point moot.