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TDITD

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We better send 2 fruit baskets.
As long as the fruits rotten
 
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DiscoDanNZ

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He's wiping the floor with that tosser

Replying to all of your Twitter/Franck posts here btw

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Not sure if this been discussed, saw something on twitter the other day that made be interested to look.

Could the difference be why we are suspended? Working out the rights below?

I assume the non coloured area is of no importance anymore, and the exploitation licence will turn into today's purple area.

Before:
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After (Today)

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LX600

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Not sure if this been discussed, saw something on twitter the other day that made be interested to look.

Could the difference be why we are suspended? Working out the rights below?

I assume the non coloured area is of no importance anymore, and the exploitation licence will turn into today's purple area.

Before:
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After (Today)

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The Mining license area is right, which cruiser and Xefo clarified last night. The questions is the remaining part of 13359. @Roller62 may share some light here?
 
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Xerof

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The bit with the diagonal black lines becomes the area covered by the Mining license, the blank bit is the remaining unexplored portion of the original 13359, and will become a 5 year exploration renewal. It's really simple to understand, if you read the May 4th announcement
 
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He seems worried about AJN is stealing this part. Can anyone with French watch the video and let us know?
 
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Xerof

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He worries too much. Nothing to do with 13359 (or our other tenements for that matter)
 
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TDITD

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AJN with an AVZ favourite Klaus Eckhof seem to have favour with those high up in the mining scene still in DRC, I would have thought he was tarred with the Kabila brush an shunned, obviously not so.
Interestingly only as recently as may 8th a certain Mr. Nigel Fergerson resigned as a director at AJN.

IMO these talks with AJN have obviously been going on for quite some time this is no small arrangement they have, Nigel quitting as director to not have any conflict of interests as they want AVZ as major holder in Manono.

This is another reason that imo strengthens my resolve that AVZ will come out of this as the controlling holding in Dathcom

 
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The bit with the diagonal black lines becomes the area covered by the Mining license, the blank bit is the remaining unexplored portion of the original 13359, and will become a 5 year exploration renewal. It's really simple to understand, if you read the May 4th announcement
Right ok thanks mate, so as that area is still within the 'blue' lined area it's all good. The 'blank' didn't really line up to anything I could see in the key hence my question.

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Xerof

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Right ok thanks mate, so as that area is still within the 'blue' lined area it's all good. The 'blank' didn't really line up to anything I could see in the key hence my question.

Cheers
Yeah, the Cadastre folks don't seem to bother too much. It's never timely, and usually incomplete. I guess they don't have a category to cover the transitional period, but remember the last update was approval of PE (ML) and now we just await the update of the PE and PR split for 13359.
 
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Winenut

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Google Translate:

Article 765:

"Notwithstanding the principle of free transferability set out in Article 764 above, the articles of association or agreements mentioned in Article 2-1 above may stipulate certain limitations to the transfer of shares under the conditions provided for in Articles 765- 1 to 771-3 below. Limitations on the transmission of shares cannot operate in the event of succession, liquidation of community of property between spouses, or transfer either to a spouse or to an ascendant or a descendant."


Article 765-1:

"The inalienability clauses affecting shares are only valid if they provide for a prohibition of a period less than or equal to ten (10) years and if they are justified by a serious and legitimate reason."

Article 771-2:

"It may be stipulated in the articles of association or the agreements of article 2-1 above that the shareholder who intends to transfer all or part of his shares is required to notify one or more other shareholders, who may inform the assignor that they exercise a right of pre-emption at the prices and conditions which have been notified to it."


Article 771-3:

"In the event that a pre-emption clause is stipulated in the articles of association, any transfer of shares carried out in violation of the pre-emption right is void.

In the event that a preemption clause is stipulated in the agreements of article 2-1 above, any transfer of shares carried out in violation of the right of preemption is void when it is demonstrated that one of the beneficiaries was aware of it or could not be unaware of its existence.
"


Conclusion:
COMINIERE violated Article 773-1 of the OHADA corporate law when it sold 15% of Dathcom to Jin Cheng. This sale was void by corporate law because AVZ was aware of its pre-emptive right to purchase the 15% from COMINIERE.

DYOR. IMO
 
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Winenut

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Google Translate:

Article 765:

"Notwithstanding the principle of free transferability set out in Article 764 above, the articles of association or agreements mentioned in Article 2-1 above may stipulate certain limitations to the transfer of shares under the conditions provided for in Articles 765- 1 to 771-3 below. Limitations on the transmission of shares cannot operate in the event of succession, liquidation of community of property between spouses, or transfer either to a spouse or to an ascendant or a descendant."


Article 765-1:

"The inalienability clauses affecting shares are only valid if they provide for a prohibition of a period less than or equal to ten (10) years and if they are justified by a serious and legitimate reason."

Article 771-2:

"It may be stipulated in the articles of association or the agreements of article 2-1 above that the shareholder who intends to transfer all or part of his shares is required to notify one or more other shareholders, who may inform the assignor that they exercise a right of pre-emption at the prices and conditions which have been notified to it."


Article 771-3:

"In the event that a pre-emption clause is stipulated in the articles of association, any transfer of shares carried out in violation of the pre-emption right is void.

In the event that a preemption clause is stipulated in the agreements of article 2-1 above, any transfer of shares carried out in violation of the right of preemption is void when it is demonstrated that one of the beneficiaries was aware of it or could not be unaware of its existence.
"


Conclusion:
COMINIERE violated Article 773-1 of the OHADA corporate law when it sold 15% of Dathcom to Jin Cheng. This sale was void by corporate law because AVZ was aware of its pre-emptive right to purchase the 15% from COMINIERE.

DYOR. IMO

Great post

cheers
 
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TDITD

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I think @MDRY meant one fruit basket for Franck and one for Jens
Ooops :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:. I thought he meant to send to Zijin.
The Office Oops GIF



those men NEED alcohol after dealing with such trolls.
 
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TDITD

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Google Translate:

Article 765:

"Notwithstanding the principle of free transferability set out in Article 764 above, the articles of association or agreements mentioned in Article 2-1 above may stipulate certain limitations to the transfer of shares under the conditions provided for in Articles 765- 1 to 771-3 below. Limitations on the transmission of shares cannot operate in the event of succession, liquidation of community of property between spouses, or transfer either to a spouse or to an ascendant or a descendant."


Article 765-1:

"The inalienability clauses affecting shares are only valid if they provide for a prohibition of a period less than or equal to ten (10) years and if they are justified by a serious and legitimate reason."

Article 771-2:

"It may be stipulated in the articles of association or the agreements of article 2-1 above that the shareholder who intends to transfer all or part of his shares is required to notify one or more other shareholders, who may inform the assignor that they exercise a right of pre-emption at the prices and conditions which have been notified to it."


Article 771-3:

"In the event that a pre-emption clause is stipulated in the articles of association, any transfer of shares carried out in violation of the pre-emption right is void.

In the event that a preemption clause is stipulated in the agreements of article 2-1 above, any transfer of shares carried out in violation of the right of preemption is void when it is demonstrated that one of the beneficiaries was aware of it or could not be unaware of its existence.
"


Conclusion:
COMINIERE violated Article 773-1 of the OHADA corporate law when it sold 15% of Dathcom to Jin Cheng. This sale was void by corporate law because AVZ was aware of its pre-emptive right to purchase the 15% from COMINIERE.

DYOR. IMO


Great post. Looks like its pretty water tight no wonder Nigel has been so confident in interviews and announcements.
 
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Roller62

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The bit with the diagonal black lines becomes the area covered by the Mining license, the blank bit is the remaining unexplored portion of the original 13359, and will become a 5 year exploration renewal. It's really simple to understand, if you read the May 4th announcement
The blank bit should in reality still be part of Tenement 13359. When the Mining Licence application was made it applied to all of 13359. You can't apply just for a section of it.

If you have a look at the original 13359 it covers a much larger area than it does now. It used to cover all the area inside the 100% AVZ extensions. The ML should also cover all of this area.

 
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The blank bit should in reality still be part of Tenement 13359. When the Mining Licence application was made it applied to all of 13359. You can't apply just for a section of it.

If you have a look at the original 13359 it covers a much larger area than it does now. It used to cover all the area inside the 100% AVZ extensions. The ML should also cover all of this area.


Hey Roller, yes that was my thoughts comparing the two. Hopefully it is just a transition process being done in the background, much like when all the data was blanked a few weeks ago. The area seems still contained on the blue box, though not shaded atm.
 
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Xerof

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The blank bit should in reality still be part of Tenement 13359. When the Mining Licence application was made it applied to all of 13359. You can't apply just for a section of it.

If you have a look at the original 13359 it covers a much larger area than it does now. It used to cover all the area inside the 100% AVZ extensions. The ML should also cover all of this area.


I agree it's all part of 13359, but ...... from May 4th Decree announcement

DRC Mining Code requires the Cadastre Minier (CAMI), operating under the supervision of the Minister of Mines, to calculate the surface rights fee and officially award the Mining Licence following the receipt of payment

• The Ministerial Decree to award the Mining Licence covers the entirety of the Roche Dure JORC Mineral Resource and Reserve 2&3 and the Carriere de l’Este exploration target 4 (this is the shaded bit)

An area which was excluded under the Ministerial Decree to award the Mining Licence, will be renewed under a 5-year Exploration Licence to Dathcom, with discussions regarding the terms of the ongoing joint venture under discussion with the DRC Government (this is the blankety blank bit to the north)

Clearly, they applied for it all, but the MofM decreed it as described above

I'm not going to repeat this any more, it should be crystal clear
 
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