AVZ Discussion 2022

[Hudnut]

Or are they just adding more to the pile of excrement that will need to be waded through at trial to make it take longer?
We can't keep the chronological order of things straight most of the time, there's so much documentation and FUD floating around.
How long will the claims and counterclaims take to sort through it all in court?

 

[TDITD]

Hey Scoota absolutely spot on mate. I was just trying to draft up something the same but you nailed it. This plus the points Mr Inappropriate raises re delay and confusion pretty much covers it
I would like to say that re tonights discussion i'am in awe of everyone who has contributed here. I got no idea how you guys find all this shit but is hugely appreciated. Reaffirms my decision to move from the Crapper to TSE.
Thanks to all

Welcome to the Asylum

Yea I'm leaning to its a fake, I reckon Obes onto it along with the others. Where's the MOM stamp, they normally stamp over the signatures. Signature behind the font. No consistency in the pages.

But hey its the DRC We could be announcing ICSID and then a day later a bloody ML

 

[TDITD]

So if the DRC lawyers are looking at our ICSID case and can see the Swiss cheese sized holes in it, then why the hell would the MoM continue to screw us over? It would only give us more ammunition to win the case. It just doesn't make sense. And then why would Comineire continue to be fighting us? Why would they not just ignore us and keep their mouth shut while they continue to attempt refurbishing the hydro plant. IMO they are on the back foot and it isn't long until the ICC hearing decision arrives.

All I'm saying is, it seems very suss especially with Tommy's article. We know from past experiences that the detractors tend to time things when it benefits them.

I will admit the AGM is gonna be wild and I for one am excited

Bring your own knuckle-dusters

 

[Scoota30]

Bring your own knuckle-dusters

Knuckle dusters and cock punches for anyone trying to jump the queue in the snack line

 

[Carlos Danger]

Welcome to the Asylum

Yea I'm leaning to its a fake, I reckon Obes onto it along with the others. Where's the MOM stamp, they normally stamp over the signatures. Signature behind the font. No consistency in the pages.

But hey its the DRC We could be announcing ICSID and then a day later a bloody ML

The purported new decree looks pretty much identical to the decree cancelling our PE to me @obe wan

What stamp or seal do you think is missing between these two documents?

 

[TDITD]

The purported new decree looks pretty much identical to the decree cancelling our PE to me @obe wan

What stamp or seal do you think is missing between these two documents?

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I could have sworn she used a stamp.

We will find out anyhow if it's real or not.

It would hardly be a surprise if it isn't real with all the deception & fraudulent behaviour already displayed.

If it is real could definitely explanations for that too, meaning it gets reversed.

No point playing into MMGA an Zijins hands

 

[tonster66]

https://x.com/FranckFwamba/status/1714985762209296612?s=20

I dont think Franck likes them

 

[tonster66]

https://x.com/kongopress/status/1715044968400605669?s=20

Is the embassy becoming involved?

 

[LithiumKing]

Not sure if this has been shared but first public photo we’ve seen of Australian diplomats with Felix

 

[BRICK]

The purported new decree looks pretty much identical to the decree cancelling our PE to me @obe wan

What stamp or seal do you think is missing between these two documents?

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Ive lieterally woken up, looked at this and said to myself theyre comparing the 2 docs to see if the white one is a fake?

So apologies if im wrong - been a big week. lol

My thoughts:

if you were going to forge it you would try to match the font style of the order number. Such a deliberate change in style of the numbering - you wouldnt do this on a forgery i doubt? Or this tells me they are updating their systems to now include the order numbers digitally instead of with a stamp.

it has marks where its stapled on the second page but wheres the staple mark on the first page if assuming the 2 pages were stapled together.

shadow at the edge of the paper and a few small imperfections but the only thing that annoys me is the signature at the bottom of the first page on the new one is different to the style of the other ones first page, i.e, its centred and almost level meaning its very deliberate and signed carefully wheras the first one was done in a rush.

 

[Cumquat Cap]

Morning ladies and gents, some great analysis so far - trying not to panic as that's certainly what the detractors want.

Nice to see Minoli earning her keep and having a meeting with Felix (first time i've seen that);

The shitfuckery has ramped up exponentially since management we're forced to acknowledge the existence of MoU discussions last week (tommy article, MMGA new dossier and fatal documents popping up within 3 days).

ICC on the burn, MMGA desperate to get on our board (with no asset) and new highly qualified Directors having recently been hired (less enthused about that). ICSID discovery also commences soon as well I believe.

I'm Trying to keep a level head although it's fucking scary, always remember Nigel has 50M + AUD to lose if this goes to nothing.

Have a great friday

 

[j.l]

"Asset currently being partially sold"?

 

[Doc]

Last announcement said that AVZ will look at Cominiere breach of ICC ruling at a later date. Why? Why not now? Get a ruling for 50k a day now. Start the tally. Put pressure back on them. Fight fire with fire

 

[robface]

Not sure if this has been shared but first public photo we’ve seen of Australian diplomats with Felix

Within a week or two I believe of Nigel meeting.

Interesting if both there at the same time. Could be why AvZ haven't released a picture of the meeting

 

[TDITD]

"Asset currently being partially sold"?
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We really must be close they are throwing everything at it.

 

[TheCount]

I'm curious. Why doesn't the document have metadata from the DRC?

All other "fingerprints" appear to have been removed.
TC.

 

[timb89]

I'm curious. Why doesn't the document have metadata from the DRC?

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All other "fingerprints" appear to have been removed.
TC.

Interesting. Can you explain this experiment further?

Did you compared too other docs that do have a fingerprint to DRC?

 

[TheCount]

Interesting. Can you explain this experiment further?

Did you compared too other docs that do have a fingerprint to DRC?

Good question - will compare to other DRC docs...

Appears to have been a printed document scanned by a Samsung device as opposed to a Word Doc printed as a pdf... Could explain the larger file size for a pdf. Will continue to dig..
TC.

 

[Mr Inappropriate]

https://x.com/kongopress/status/1715044968400605669?s=20

Is the embassy becoming involved?

They’ve been aware for quite some time, and definitely involved to *some* extent previously (noting that AU has no embassy in the DRC).

This is good.

 

[Dijon101]

We're a bunch of jaded kunts aren't we.

If we believe what AVZ are saying and we are in high level advanced discussions with high level government officials. Then this is all part of the plan 🫤

Just last week we believed zijin was toast in the first ICC hearing, that the MoJ has taken over from MoM, that Nigel met with both CAMI and Felix. We thought those trying to steal manono were doing their last desperate act.

Only question really is:
Are we part of a historic transition from a sovereign state riddled with corruption where only those at the top are enriched. To a state that wants to engage with the west and in turn doing so, benefit everyone.