AVZ Discussion 2022

[Azzler]

It could be any fucking thing we are throwing darts in the dark, just wait and see for cunts sake.
Does the PE need to be renewed before a licence can be granted? it's way over due?
Is it just red tape, or proceedure?
Might be.
Is is cunts ripping us off? Might be?

My point is we don't know shit, the document being released CLEARLY is intended to worry us, it wasn't released with a statement from the DRC stating that Dathcom has been burned and AVZ had their assholes ripped out.
The circumstances surrounding the release of the document, make me think it's bullshit, designed to frighten and panic.
So stop assisting the cunt network.


EDIT: If AVZ have in fact been shafted, no one needs to promote it or release documents under the table. If we're done then we're done and we would get an official statement one way or another.
The need to release something like this suggests to me shennanigans.

 

[obe wan]

You're deluded imo

Really , fair enough I used a host of pdf editors ; those pink boxes are on trial editors

 

[obe wan]

You're deluded imo

Fwiw I hear old mate doing the ring around telling people to flick their shares Mr multi

 

[Carlos Danger]

Really , fair enough I used a host of pdf editors ; those pink boxes are on trial editors

Everything in that document seems like good old regular batshit crazy DRC reasoning to me. Believe what you want. The truth is often what we make of it.

 

[Azzler]

Look at the original, there is nothing of the things you describe. In my opinion it's because of that translation google tool.

original french:

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/64ee6c3e2f73c74b4d160c0a/t/6530b54729a3e421bb9594d2/1697690969909/notification+arrêté+ministériel+portant+prorogatio_231013_161203+(84409343).PDF

Real or fake I don't think the document tells us anything anyway.
And because it lines up with changes to CAMI, doesn't mean the WHOLE document is undoctored. Not saying it is I'm just saying it doesn't prove anything.

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Btw here's a post from @Winenut from May showing what 13359 looked like up until a few weeks ago when I last checked. The grant date was 28/12/16 and the expiry day of 27/12/21 is now the new grant date in both the CAMI document and the CAMI portal with both having the same expiry date of 27/12/27. Can't really get much more confirmation than that.
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On the 27/12/2021 when the new grant date for the PR is, the project was still in Dathcom’s name.

Dathcom made the original application, not Cominiere

New PR given on that date, Cominiere still trying to claim the rights. CAMI portal just changing the new PR date

You lot can speculate from here, I don’t feel like staying up until 3am again

 

[dollarbills]

And all this a week after AVZ was mentioned for the first time at Ministers meeting.
What a movie this will make

This will need a 5 part series with the amount of fuckerys going on..
Let’s hope the BoD address these recent issues soon, whether positive or negative

 

[j.l]

Why would they need to do that?

Cominiere's plan is to form a JV with Zijin at a 76% to 24% split in Zijin's favour using the rights to 13359 they now claim to have. Which has been backed up by the MoM and new CAMI DG. The document shows the MOM justifying this by citing the Kalemie high court decision on May 3 2023 which was is in violation of the ICC emergency order preventing Cominiere terminating the Dathcom JVA.

But clearly the MoM doesn't give a fuck about the ICC. Technically under the mining code Zijin and Cominiere should have to go through the whole drilling process again and then apply for a PE as it is a new applicant but as if they won't just use our DFS numbers and have it rubber stamped by the Minister of Brown Bags. This will end with us making an out of court settlement at the ICSID with the DRC government and Zijin is going to pay for it on their behalf imo

Ah, interesting. Let's hope the settlement equates to something worthwhile.

 

[j.l]

The dates have definitely changed. I checked it a few weeks ago.

I can second that.

 

[Horse]

Feel like people are stressing over this change on CAMI website too much.

We've seen this shit pulled off in the past, changes to website, different documents, lots of bs.. regardless if true or not, AVZ are negotiating higher than this.

AVZ were recently discussed in the last minister meeting. This document appears to be signed on the 1st October, approx. three weeks ago. Lots has changed since then, few announcements released. Minister of justice is now handling this. Presumably this document may have been what forced the Presidents hand to delegate control over to the MOJ, no one knows and until we hear official announcements, everything else is potential lies...

just my two bob.

 

[Azzler]

Feel like people are stressing over this change on CAMI website too much.

We've seen this shit pulled off in the past, changes to website, different documents, lots of bs.. regardless if true or not, AVZ are negotiating higher than this.

AVZ were recently discussed in the last minister meeting. This document appears to be signed on the 1st October, approx. three weeks ago. Lots has changed since then, few announcements released. Minister of justice is now handling this. Presumably this document may have been what forced the Presidents hand to delegate control over to the MOJ, no one knows and until we hear official announcements, everything else is potential lies...

just my two bob.

Yes and a couple of punters unhappy with the lack of panic.

 

[Carlos Danger]

On the 27/12/2021 when the new grant date for the PR is, the project was still in Dathcom’s name.

Dathcom made the original application, not Cominiere

New PR given on that date, Cominiere still trying to claim the rights. CAMI portal just changing the new PR date

You lot can speculate from here, I don’t feel like staying up until 3am again

Yeah obviously I agree but the MoM is citing the termination of the Dathcom JVA. The MoM could come back over the top with a new decree giving it back to Dathcom once the ICC is finalised but shouldn't the emergency order preventing actions being taken be enough. The MoM using that reasoning in her justification is a clear violation of the ICC order by extending Cominiere's rights to the project even if potentially temporarily imo

 

[Carlos Danger]

Feel like people are stressing over this change on CAMI website too much.

We've seen this shit pulled off in the past, changes to website, different documents, lots of bs.. regardless if true or not, AVZ are negotiating higher than this.

AVZ were recently discussed in the last minister meeting. This document appears to be signed on the 1st October, approx. three weeks ago. Lots has changed since then, few announcements released. Minister of justice is now handling this. Presumably this document may have been what forced the Presidents hand to delegate control over to the MOJ, no one knows and until we hear official announcements, everything else is potential lies...

just my two bob.

If Mupande was still around obviously I would agree. But CAMI is under new management. Why do you think that we have been transferred to the MoJ?

 

[Roon]

Feel like people are stressing over this change on CAMI website too much.

We've seen this shit pulled off in the past, changes to website, different documents, lots of bs.. regardless if true or not, AVZ are negotiating higher than this.

AVZ were recently discussed in the last minister meeting. This document appears to be signed on the 1st October, approx. three weeks ago. Lots has changed since then, few announcements released. Minister of justice is now handling this. Presumably this document may have been what forced the Presidents hand to delegate control over to the MOJ, no one knows and until we hear official announcements, everything else is potential lies...

just my two bob.

A signed order by the MoM reissuing and extending the Manono exploration permit to Cominiere is a little more significant than a change on the CAMI website in my view. It would seem to solidify the position that Dathcom has been removed from the licence. That would of course raise the question then of why MMGA would still be fighting for a worthless shell - so obviously things aren't all done and dusted yet. Nonetheless it seems a step in the direction towards what cominiere have been talking about, them being given the exploration permit, sans AVZ/dathcom, to then go for a PE and then no doubt to then enter into the new JV they were talking about with Zijin to develop the mine. Let's see if ongoing discussions with senior leaders towards this MoU can avoid this outcome. But the Mom's apparent involvement in transferring the title is disheartening.

And besides, if you read the translation of the ministerial meeting, it is talking about several cases of litigation against the DRC government being addressed by the Ministry of Justice. Including ours. Who else would you expect to be orchestrating the response to a legal action launched against the DRC?

And if we had been diligently negotiating an MoU towards a ML for months since the start of ICSID, and were close to fruition, as suggested by the announcements, then why would the AVZ file be being turned over to a new team?

 

[9cardomaha]

Yeah obviously I agree but the MoM is citing the termination of the Dathcom JVA. The MoM could come back over the top with a new decree giving it back to Dathcom once the ICC is finalised but shouldn't the emergency order preventing actions being taken be enough. The MoM using that reasoning in her justification is a clear violation of the ICC order by extending Cominiere's rights to the project even if potentially temporarily imo

This reasoning is solid.

Just for some clarity:

1. late 2022 Cominiere writes to MOM requesting termination of JVA because they have hurt feelings
2. MOM cancels pending PE in ministerial decree 0000031, citing unharmonious relations (this is fucking laughable and not a valid reason for termination, one of the main points of argument for ICSID)
3. Cominiere uses 0000031 and the belief that 13359 has been returned to Cominiere to file for termination at a local DRC court - they claim that because Dathcom has lost its asset, the JV no longer has reason to exist
4. AVZ leadership sniff out this shitfuckery and obtains an emergency injunction (EI) against Cominiere
5. Cominiere believes it has not breached ICC injunction, because it filed to terminate before EI was handed down
6. With all this going on Cominiere also applied for a court order to have CAMI records updated, which was granted by the looks of it.

This hopefully clears things up, a lot of this is Cominiere acting under its own snack land fantasy scenarios, and the DRC legal system is so fucking outdated, they just go about doing whatever the fuck they want.

AVZ have the proceedings in motion for the outcome Carlos has pointed out, MOM comes over the top, which I stake my ambidextrous left/right them/they/it pronoun testicle on.

PS Cominiere's entire operational process is based on what it wants to believe, with utter disregard for what actually is. Hence what i said about the hydro plant as well, they just doing whatever the fuck they want.

 

[9cardomaha]

Yes and a couple of punters unhappy with the lack of panic.

I fucking totally agree man, gobsmacked by a certain few people trying to feed the hysteria.

Is it an ideal situation? of fucking course its not, everyone needs to take inventory of what's on the line and the amount of corrupt cunts mixed into this situation.

Fuck the gooks, fuck the snack eaters and fuck MMGA which is a combination of the former.

For those sowing the seeds and not contributing, i will spoon-feed every motherfucker (a term of endearment to all those on here) positive or at least neutral sentiment to quash your disinformation bullshit and hysteria hyping.

 

[cruiser51]

Yeah obviously I agree but the MoM is citing the termination of the Dathcom JVA. The MoM could come back over the top with a new decree giving it back to Dathcom once the ICC is finalised but shouldn't the emergency order preventing actions being taken be enough. The MoM using that reasoning in her justification is a clear violation of the ICC order by extending Cominiere's rights to the project even if potentially temporarily imo

Has it been checked, if the contracts posted are not really fake?
The only sites where they appear are the Cominiere/MMGA twitter sites, and the twitter account of their paid lackeys.

Taking in account that Peter H lost credibility by having umpteen birthdates and his efforts at other DRC companies, I really don't put that much value on what comes out of his mouth.

Why is MMGA so eager to fight for 3 Board seats of a company, which has according to them no assets and about to run out of money?
Why have secret meetings in Chinese dim sum restaurants, try to hide the Chinese connection, spent money and energy on printing and posting silly green pamphlets plus a supreme court case to get access to email addresses of shareholders, to fight for an empty shell, does that really make sense?

Btw.

18 October 2023

“FEC on Mpiana Mwanga Power Station highlights ongoing Memorandum of Understanding between Department of Hydropower and Water Resources and AVZ Power”
NEWSECONOMY

For the FEC, it is AVZ POWER which is rehabilitating the MPIANA MWANGA hydroelectric plant, what about the work of COMINIERE excluding the Australians​

October 18, 2023
Kiki Kienge


By Kiki Kienge
As part of the development of the Manono lithium project in the province of Tanganyika, a joint venture was created by the Congolese State, DATHCOM, of which today the Australians of AVZ MINERALS own the majority of the shares, which notably financed and carry out the feasibility studies which led to the development of the Manono deposit.
The Ministry of Hydraulic Resources and Electricity of the Democratic Republic of Congo, responsible for the MPIANA MWANGA I&II power plant, signed a memorandum of understanding with AVZ POWER SAU, the subsidiary of AVZ MINERALS, on January 13, 2020 with the rehabilitation of these two hydroelectric power stations.

Memorandum of understanding between the Ministry of Hydraulic Resources and Electricity of the DRC and AVZ POWER SAU for the rehabilitation of the power plant.
The MPIANA MWANGA hydroelectric plant, once restored, in addition to providing electricity to the Manono lithium mining project, must in particular ensure the distribution of electrical energy to the population and state infrastructure in this part of the country which suffers enormously from an energy deficit, something which blocks development in the province of Tanganyika.
Let us recall that for the moment the Manono lithium project is stagnating, due to “political implications” and the desire of the Chinese group ZIJIN, which is keen to get its hands on the project regardless of the means used, even at the risk of eject the Australians of AVZ MNERALS from the adventure in the Manono deposit.
Here recently on social networks, more on Twitter, an "uncertified" account in the name of COMINIERE, the state company of the Congolese State on lithium in Tanganyika, shows images and videos of work in progress on the site of the MPIANA MWANGA I&II hydroelectric power station.
This “ongoing” work for the rehabilitation of the MPIANA MWANGA I&II hydroelectric power station raises questions, such as:

• Who finances this work?
• With what agreement (contract) are they carried out?
• Which companies are involved in this work?
• Is the Congolese Government which owns the plant aware of this and has it authorized this work?
• Why is COMINIERE embarking on this work without waiting for the court's decision on DATCHOM?

The Australian company from Perth, was quick to react to possible work taking place without its knowledge on the site of the MPIANA MWANGA I&II hydroelectric power station, recalling the memorandum of understanding signed with the Congolese Government, which still remains in force. force:
“The FEC article on the Mpiana Mwanga Power Station highlights the ongoing Memorandum of Understanding between the Department of Hydropower and Water Resources and AVZ Power, which has completed the DFS for the rehabilitation and all the required technical and environmental studies. » Direction AVZ INTERNATIONAL.
In a publication by the FEC (Federation of Congolese Businesses) for the third quarter of 2023; “Investments in the electricity sector. What is the outcome for private projects? » published last September, confirming the position of the FEC on the right to rehabilitate the MPIANA MWANGA I&II hydroelectric plant, which remains with the Australians of AVZ POWER SAU.
SOME PASSES FROM THE FEC ARTICLE
AVZ POWER, which is developing the rehabilitation project of the MPIANA MWANGA I and II hydroelectric power station for a total capacity of 44 MW in Manono in the Province of Tanganyika. The rehabilitation will begin with MPIANA MWANGA II which has large turbines before the second phase to rehabilitate MPIANA MWANGA I.
The electricity produced by this plant will be used for the exploitation of Lithium by the company DATCOM and part of it will serve the local population.
Rehabilitation of MPIANA MWANGA I&II
PROPERTY TITLES
Mpiana Mwanga I and II belong to the Congolese State according to the provisions of article 52 of Law 14/011 of June 17, 2014 relating to the electricity sector.
AVZ POWER SAU, subsidiary of the international company under Australian law AVZ MINERALS LTD, whose corporate purpose consists of the study and development of projects in the electricity sector such as hydroelectricity, solar power, wind power and thermal energy in the DRC, had, on June 4, 2019, requested the rehabilitation of Mpiana Mwanga by submitting a letter of intent expressing interest to the Ministry of Hydraulic Resources and Electricity.

1. HISTORY
Manono developed from the beginning of the 20th century when Belgian settlers exploited a promising cassiterite deposit, as it was then known to be a cassiterite deposit.

2. Memorandum of understanding
On January 13, 2020, a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) was signed between the DRC (MHRE) and AVZ POWER SAU.
Objective: rehabilitation of the Mpiana Mwanga I and II hydroelectric power stations in
as part of the implementation of the joint venture contract, led by AVZ INTERNATIONAL LTD and
signed between them, that is to say, between the companies COMINIÈRE SA, AVZ INTERNATIONAL LTD, DATHOMIR MINING RESOURCES SARL and DATHCOM MINING SA, not only for the exploitation of the lithium mine but also for the electrification of Manono and its surroundings.
The memorandum of understanding stipulated the responsibility of the AVZP to carry out a definitive feasibility study (DFS). AVZP also obtained a baseline Environmental and Social Impact Assessment (ESIA) in September 2020, a prerequisite for proceeding with the DFS.

3.DFS
has. DFS – REHABILITATION OF POWER PLANTS
AVZ Power SAU (AVZP) is working in collaboration with the Ministry of Water Resources and Electricity (MHRE) to secure a concession to renovate and operate the existing Mpiana Mwanga power station to provide electricity to the lithium and of Manono and to the communities of Mpiana Mwanga and Manono.
To date, AVZP has conducted a DFS on the former Mpiana Mwanga facilities and found the following:
b. ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES ON POWER GENERATION, POWER TRANSMISSION LINES AND ROADS
In accordance with the requirements of the concession application process, AVZP also conducted three ESIAs which were all approved by the Congolese Environment Agency (ACE).
These were awarded by the ACE on November 5, 2020 for:

• Hydroelectric power plant
• 120 kV overhead power line
• 90 km of road repair from Manono to Mpiana Mwanga

The ESIA report was approved by the Congolese Environment Agency (ACE).

4. INTERMEDIATE STEPS IN THE PROCESS LEADING TO THE SFD VALIDATION PROCESS
The CONSISTENT intermediate steps leading to the DFS validation process are listed below:

• June 21 to July 3, 2019: SG/MHRE and COMINIÈRE SA carry out a joint on-site visit mission through their collective mission orders:
• June 21 to July 3, 2019: SG/MHRE and COMINIÈRE SA carry out a joint on-site visit mission through their collective mission orders...
• January 13, 2020: Signature of a memorandum of understanding between MHRE and AVZ POWER SAU for the rehabilitation of the installations of the Mpiana Mwanga I and II hydroelectric power stations and their outbuildings.
• September 15 to 31, 2020: SG/MHRE dispatched a second mission by service order n°RHE/0/SG/070/B9/SM/2020 carried out by an MHRE expert to support the technical agents of the bidding companies with AVZ POWER SAU as part of technical and environmental assessments.
• November 5, 2020: AVZ POWER SAU obtains three Environmental Certificates from ACE (Congolese Environment Agency) upon favorable opinion from the panel of experts in environmental and social impact studies:
• Environmental certificate No.100/ACE/CM/JCEE/2020 for the rehabilitation of 120kV high voltage power Manono –Mpiana Mwanga.
• Environmental certificate No. 101/ACE/CM/JCEE/2020 for the Manono-Mpiana Mwanga road rehabilitation project, 95 km long, Tanganyika province.
• Environmental certificate No. 102/ACE/CM/JCEE/2020 for the rehabilitation project of the Mpiana Mwanga I and II power stations with a potential production capacity of 44.4 MW in Mpiana Mwanga, Tanganyika province.
• December 23 to 10, 2020: SG/MHRE dispatched a third mission by service order no. RHE/4/SG/0/114/B9/SMW/2020 carried out by experts from COMINIERE SA and AVZ POWER SAU for a complete assessment for the planning of rehabilitation works.
• December 14, 2020: Request by the company AVZ POWER SAU to convene a Joint Technical Committee to examine the file relating to the award of the concession contract for the rehabilitation of the Mpiana Mwanga I and II hydroelectric power stations.
• January 29, 2021: Signature of Ministerial Order No. 129/CAB/MIN/RHE/EMM/2021 of January 29, 2021, by His Excellency the Minister of State, Minister of Hydraulic Resources and Electricity creating the Committee Monitoring Technique for the Rehabilitation Project of the Mpiana Mwanga I and II Power Plants.
• February 27, 2021: Convocation by the SG-MHRE by its reference letter No. RHE/SG/0/0327/D9/SM/2021 of an ad hoc committee of multisectoral and multidisciplinary experts for the analysis and validation of feasibility studies of the Mpiana Mwanga I and II hydroelectric power stations.
• March 22, 2021: By his letter no. CAB/MIN/RHE/BMP/209/AAM/21, His Excellency the Minister of State, Minister of Hydraulic Resources and Electricity after validation of the studies by the ad hoc committee of multi-sectoral experts, authorized AVZ POWER SAU to continue work on the Mpiana Mwanga I and II site taking into account its recommendations.

5. CONSTITUTION OF THE DFS VALIDATION COMMITTEE BY MHRE
According to the MoU, the DFS was to be submitted to the MHRE along with ACE certificates of ESIA reports on power generation, power lines and roads. Following this submission, a validation committee was formed by the MHRE composed of representatives
of the following institutions:
• Advisor in charge of hydroelectricity at MHRE
• Advisor in charge of solar and wind energy to MHRE staff
• Advisor in charge of finances for MHRE staff
• Advisor in charge of training MHRE staff
• Director – Head of Electricity Department of the MHRE General Secretariat
• Director – Head of the Renewable Energy Department of the General Secretariat
of the MHRE
• Single division head of the MHRE General Secretariat
• Rural Electrification Division Head of the MHRE General Secretariat
• Head of the Distribution Division of the General Secretariat of the MHRE
• Head of the Renewable Energy Division of the General Secretariat of
MHRE
• Expert from the NATIONAL ENERGY COMMISSION (CNE)
• Expert from the UNIVERSITY OF KINSHASA (UNIKIN)
• Expert from the HIGHER INSTITUTE OF APPLIED TECHNIQUES (ISTA)
• Independent expert

6. THE DFS VALIDATION COMMITTEE BY MHRE
COMMISSION’S WORKING METHODOLOGY
• Presentation of the report by the representative of the Consortium
• Free reading and criticism, by expert, of the DFS report (scientific and technical opinions and considerations)
• The entire 120KVA overhead line will be replaced with new aluminum and OPGR cables using modern insulation technology.
• Pooling of opinions and reflections of experts from the DRC made up of scientific discipline sectors (hydrology and geotechnics, electromechanics and electricity, social and environmental protection,
economic and financial aspects)
• Debate and exchanges with the Consultant's panel of experts on each concern expressed by the DRC experts.
• Preparation of the report confirming the end of the validation work.
AVZP fulfilled all requirements in accordance with the DRC Electricity Law 2014 and its secondary legislation, to obtain the concession contract. AVZP will be integrated into a PPP collaboration agreement which was under review by the DRC government.
7. THE EXPANSION CONCESSION AWARD PROCESS
The authorization to continue the stages of implementation of the works on the Mpiana Mwanga I and II site being granted by His Excellency the Minister of State, Minister of Hydraulic Resources and Electricity, only the signature by His Excellency will remain. Excellency the Governor of the Province of Tanganyika of the document of the
concession of the Company AVZ POWER SAU in order to comply with the requirements of articles 47, 74, 75 and 76 of Law 14/011 of June 17, 2014 relating to the electricity sector.
The process of awarding the concession for the operation of the Mpiana Mwanga power stations to begin the financing and execution of the renovation of MM I and II has not yet materialized due to the interference of Cominière although the final use of electricity is to power the mine and the surrounding area of Manono.
AVZ POWER SA has excluded itself from distribution outside the mining enclosure.


It does make one go hmmmmm.

 

[Carlos Danger]

This reasoning is solid.

Just for some clarity:

1. late 2022 Cominiere writes to MOM requesting termination of JVA because they have hurt feelings
2. MOM cancels pending PE in ministerial decree 0000031, citing unharmonious relations (this is fucking laughable and not a valid reason for termination, one of the main points of argument for ICSID)
3. Cominiere uses 0000031 and the belief that 13359 has been returned to Cominiere to file for termination at a local DRC court - they claim that because Dathcom has lost its asset, the JV no longer has reason to exist
4. AVZ leadership sniff out this shitfuckery and obtains an emergency injunction (EI) against Cominiere
5. Cominiere believes it has not breached ICC injunction, because it filed to terminate before EI was handed down
6. With all this going on Cominiere also applied for a court order to have CAMI records updated, which was granted by the looks of it.

This hopefully clears things up, a lot of this is Cominiere acting under its own snack land fantasy scenarios, and the DRC legal system is so fucking outdated, they just go about doing whatever the fuck they want.

AVZ have the proceedings in motion for the outcome Carlos has pointed out, MOM comes over the top, which I stake my ambidextrous left/right them/they/it pronoun testicle on.

PS Cominiere's entire operational process is based on what it wants to believe, with utter disregard for what actually is. Hence what i said about the hydro plant as well, they just doing whatever the fuck they want.

In the October 9th announcement AVZ said that it 'considers Cominiere's action in procuring variation of the CAMI register likely constituted a breach of the ICC's emergency order'. Cominiere gonna Cominiere but my concern is why the MoM did this now. Perhaps it was with AVZ's blessing and we will all be popping champagne by xmas. Do you know if the ICC was informed of this latest development?

 

[obe wan]

Look at the original, there is nothing of the things you describe. In my opinion it's because of that translation google tool.

original french:

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/64ee6c3e2f73c74b4d160c0a/t/6530b54729a3e421bb9594d2/1697690969909/notification+arrêté+ministériel+portant+prorogatio_231013_161203+(84409343).PDF

Page 1 looks pretty legit with stamp over signiture , page two looks legit until you get to Danny Bendos signature which sits in behind the font print and no stamp overlay on either signiture which is odd … that put it into questionable . Pages 3 and 4 could be generated out of anywhere and the rest ; the minister for mines page , well the barcode is a dud ( it’s dead ) ; it also doesn’t replicate onto the next page footer . No ministerial stamp either

The logo with the minister of mines fonts doesn’t appear on any search … probably leftfield for obvious reasons .

 

[Dom1974]

Just because there was a change in CAMI, doesnt mean that Cominiere (via Zijin brown paper bags) hasnt influenced some junior clerk to write this up on the cami letterhead and update the portal.