AVZ Discussion 2022

[9cardomaha]

Previous manipulations were all done by Mupande. Either the new CAMI DG is running a loose ship or he's just as fucking corrupt as sugar daddy jean. My bet is on the latter.

CAMI has its hands tied, Cominiere are the ones doing the manipulation. Obe articulated my points better, but Cominiere obtained the court order forcing CAMI to change its registry under false pretences.

CAMI can only follow the Lubumbashi High Court verdict, or tell Cominiere to fuck off... if they choose the latter they will likely get side railed by another brown paper bag verdict from another court.

While Manono is an important project, you have to understand that there are other projects in play, new CAMI corrupt or not, isn;t going to go against a court verdict that Cominiere has and sour that relationship without an opposing court order - hence ICSID and negotiations and whatever the fuck else we have going on.

We, unfortunately, cannot provide brown paper bags and snacks so going to local courts is out of the question - chances of feeding enough twisties to the local court against the giant snack granting factories of Cong and Zijin... so ICSID, ICC as leverage to get an over the top decree just wiping the slate clean is a pretty good play. Unless we want to engage in a snack feeding contest....

Also CAMI website has never been that reliable, remember when all those boxes appeared for no fucking reason? Yeah Mupande was still at the helm, but fuck me the system sucks massive dick (no judgement, if you like sucking dick that's fine).

Everyone should be drinking seawater up until the AGM, because i sense this clusterfuck has just started to heat up. How long has it been since we talked about the hydroplant? Why the fuck now? Last time i think it was discussed with this much focus was... right before last year's roadshow.

Also to add to the northern split shit - Zijin have been at it since feb this year, with even earlier attempts in 2022 using their purported 15% to trade for the north blah blah blah. But it's been sidelined for almost an entire year - if nige hadn't had the discussions with felix, or we didn't have some pull in the DRC, that northern split deal would have been rubber-stamped immediately, it is currently dead in the water, hence ZJ trying other tactics to get something.

 

[Thaz]

CAMI has its hands tied, Cominiere are the ones doing the manipulation. Obe articulated my points better, but Cominiere obtained the court order forcing CAMI to change its registry under false pretences.

CAMI can only follow the Lubumbashi High Court verdict, or tell Cominiere to fuck off... if they choose the latter they will likely get side railed by another brown paper bag verdict from another court.

While Manono is an important project, you have to understand that there are other projects in play, new CAMI corrupt or not, isn;t going to go against a court verdict that Cominiere has and sour that relationship without an opposing court order - hence ICSID and negotiations and whatever the fuck else we have going on.

We, unfortunately, cannot provide brown paper bags and snacks so going to local courts is out of the question - chances of feeding enough twisties to the local court against the giant snack granting factories of Cong and Zijin... so ICSID, ICC as leverage to get an over the top decree just wiping the slate clean is a pretty good play. Unless we want to engage in a snack feeding contest....

Also CAMI website has never been that reliable, remember when all those boxes appeared for no fucking reason? Yeah Mupande was still at the helm, but fuck me the system sucks massive dick (no judgement, if you like sucking dick that's fine).

Everyone should be drinking seawater up until the AGM, because i sense this clusterfuck has just started to heat up. How long has it been since we talked about the hydroplant? Why the fuck now? Last time i think it was discussed with this much focus was... right before last year's roadshow.

Also to add to the northern split shit - Zijin have been at it since feb this year, with even earlier attempts in 2022 using their purported 15% to trade for the north blah blah blah. But it's been sidelined for almost an entire year - if nige hadn't had the discussions with felix, or we didn't have some pull in the DRC, that northern split deal would have been rubber-stamped immediately, it is currently dead in the water, hence ZJ trying other tactics to get something.

Well articulated.

I'm of the camp - to say no to Zijin for any part of Manono.

They have delayed this project for far too long. Who knows what they would do if they were running the neighbour mining site in the north tenement. Remember when there were instances of the attacks and vandalisms in Manono? Imagine how much worse it'll be if they're our neighbour.

I would also imagine that they would occupy the transport routes so that it hinders our ability to transport the stock.

They have much more resources than us - if they sold to others at a severe discount to what we are able to, feasibly - why would anyone buy the same quality of supply at a more expensive rate?

Having Zijin as a neighbour is a definite NO GO.

 

[Carlos Danger]

CAMI has its hands tied, Cominiere are the ones doing the manipulation. Obe articulated my points better, but Cominiere obtained the court order forcing CAMI to change its registry under false pretences.

CAMI can only follow the Lubumbashi High Court verdict, or tell Cominiere to fuck off... if they choose the latter they will likely get side railed by another brown paper bag verdict from another court.

While Manono is an important project, you have to understand that there are other projects in play, new CAMI corrupt or not, isn;t going to go against a court verdict that Cominiere has and sour that relationship without an opposing court order - hence ICSID and negotiations and whatever the fuck else we have going on.

We, unfortunately, cannot provide brown paper bags and snacks so going to local courts is out of the question - chances of feeding enough twisties to the local court against the giant snack granting factories of Cong and Zijin... so ICSID, ICC as leverage to get an over the top decree just wiping the slate clean is a pretty good play. Unless we want to engage in a snack feeding contest....

Also CAMI website has never been that reliable, remember when all those boxes appeared for no fucking reason? Yeah Mupande was still at the helm, but fuck me the system sucks massive dick (no judgement, if you like sucking dick that's fine).

Everyone should be drinking seawater up until the AGM, because i sense this clusterfuck has just started to heat up. How long has it been since we talked about the hydroplant? Why the fuck now? Last time i think it was discussed with this much focus was... right before last year's roadshow.

Also to add to the northern split shit - Zijin have been at it since feb this year, with even earlier attempts in 2022 using their purported 15% to trade for the north blah blah blah. But it's been sidelined for almost an entire year - if nige hadn't had the discussions with felix, or we didn't have some pull in the DRC, that northern split deal would have been rubber-stamped immediately, it is currently dead in the water, hence ZJ trying other tactics to get something.

Have you been able to confirm if the decree is legit?

Fair enough CAMI has to follow the decree if it is indeed real but why is the MoM doing this now against the ICC emergency order. Surely the renewal of the PR could have waited until the first week of November or 13359 could have just been transferred back to Dathcom and converted to PE like the mining code says it should. Why would we need a renewal of PR when our first decree was done after the original expiry date?

 

[Doc]

CAMI has its hands tied, Cominiere are the ones doing the manipulation. Obe articulated my points better, but Cominiere obtained the court order forcing CAMI to change its registry under false pretences.

CAMI can only follow the Lubumbashi High Court verdict, or tell Cominiere to fuck off... if they choose the latter they will likely get side railed by another brown paper bag verdict from another court.

While Manono is an important project, you have to understand that there are other projects in play, new CAMI corrupt or not, isn;t going to go against a court verdict that Cominiere has and sour that relationship without an opposing court order - hence ICSID and negotiations and whatever the fuck else we have going on.

We, unfortunately, cannot provide brown paper bags and snacks so going to local courts is out of the question - chances of feeding enough twisties to the local court against the giant snack granting factories of Cong and Zijin... so ICSID, ICC as leverage to get an over the top decree just wiping the slate clean is a pretty good play. Unless we want to engage in a snack feeding contest....

Also CAMI website has never been that reliable, remember when all those boxes appeared for no fucking reason? Yeah Mupande was still at the helm, but fuck me the system sucks massive dick (no judgement, if you like sucking dick that's fine).

Everyone should be drinking seawater up until the AGM, because i sense this clusterfuck has just started to heat up. How long has it been since we talked about the hydroplant? Why the fuck now? Last time i think it was discussed with this much focus was... right before last year's roadshow.

Also to add to the northern split shit - Zijin have been at it since feb this year, with even earlier attempts in 2022 using their purported 15% to trade for the north blah blah blah. But it's been sidelined for almost an entire year - if nige hadn't had the discussions with felix, or we didn't have some pull in the DRC, that northern split deal would have been rubber-stamped immediately, it is currently dead in the water, hence ZJ trying other tactics to get something.

Hi mate, didnt AVZ say they are contesting that court decision locally? Thought I read it somewhere

 

[9cardomaha]

Hi mate, didnt AVZ say they are contesting that court decision locally? Thought I read it somewhere

Think there is a local court case on this but we also brought up the issue in AVZ v Cominiere at the ICC. No doubt the BOD have the same concerns just relying on local courts.

But its all part of the process, just hunker down and waiting on the first domino to fall - like if ICC rule that it doesn't have jurisdiction because ZJ isn't a JV member, then what on earth are ZJ trading for the north? Subsequently if Dathcom is a shell, what the fuck good is the purported 15% etc.

All a shell game and the rope is running short, hence the kitchen sinking expedition we are currently experiencing.

 

[9cardomaha]

Have you been able to confirm if the decree is legit?

Fair enough CAMI has to follow the decree if it is indeed real but why is the MoM doing this now against the ICC emergency order. Surely the renewal of the PR could have waited until the first week of November or 13359 could have just been transferred back to Dathcom and converted to PE like the mining code says it should. Why would we need a renewal of PR when our first decree was done after the original expiry date?

Its floating around in local DRC, my sources tell me it is legit, but it doesn't change the fact that its all part of the local legal process - MOM likely just following the same verdicts and Cominiere spouting that ICC is irrelevant like delusional clowns.

its a clusterfuck for sure and the way Cominiere is working the system to muddy the waters is some next level shit, but we all know their arguments are piss weak and unless they've hired david fucking blain to be their lawyers, they'll get railed at international legal proceedings. Only magic can resolve this in their favour i reckon.

 

[9cardomaha]

Well articulated.

I'm of the camp - to say no to Zijin for any part of Manono.

They have delayed this project for far too long. Who knows what they would do if they were running the neighbour mining site in the north tenement. Remember when there were instances of the attacks and vandalisms in Manono? Imagine how much worse it'll be if they're our neighbour.

I would also imagine that they would occupy the transport routes so that it hinders our ability to transport the stock.

They have much more resources than us - if they sold to others at a severe discount to what we are able to, feasibly - why would anyone buy the same quality of supply at a more expensive rate?

Having Zijin as a neighbour is a definite NO GO.

ZJs slanted drilling isn't even unfounded either, pretty ZJ have been accused of similar tactics at their Colombia gold mine. added to that unauthorized excavation which left neighbouring mines personnel dead.

Fucking disgusting pricks, with absolutely zero regard for legal process and human life. Using forced labour at their chinese mines, shafting serbian local mining staff, torture, forced eviction, the list goes on.

I'm all for BOD telling them to get fucked.

 

[Carlos Danger]

Its floating around in local DRC, my sources tell me it is legit, but it doesn't change the fact that its all part of the local legal process - MOM likely just following the same verdicts and Cominiere spouting that ICC is irrelevant like delusional clowns.

its a clusterfuck for sure and the way Cominiere is working the system to muddy the waters is some next level shit, but we all know their arguments are piss weak and unless they've hired david fucking blain to be their lawyers, they'll get railed at international legal proceedings. Only magic can resolve this in their favour i reckon.

The MoM has the power to refuse Cominiere's claims. She's blatantly ignored the mining code to give Cominiere what it wants so far. Hopefully the MoJ has power to overrule her but Franck Fwamba says that's unprecedented. Any chance you can get your hands on any paperwork relating to Dathcom's right of appeal?

 

[Thaz]

I know people don't like seeing his posts around. But allegedly, deboss knows 4 of the noms.

Would be interested to know which ones.

 

[9cardomaha]

The MoM has the power to refuse Cominiere's claims. She's blatantly ignored the mining code to give Cominiere what it wants so far. Hopefully the MoJ has power to overrule her but Franck Fwamba says that's unprecedented. Any chance you can get your hands on any paperwork relating to Dathcom's right of appeal?

Let me rummage around and see if anything comes loose.

 

[Doc]

I know people don't like seeing his posts around. But allegedly, deboss knows 4 of the noms.

Would be interested to know which ones.

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I reckon there's a few on these pages that made the list. Stand up and be counted boys. REPRESENT!

Still annoyed I didn't get the tap on the shoulder to throw my name in the hat you bastard (only because I wanted that free feed and some snacks), yeah I'm looking at you ( not you Thaz ).

 

[Retrobyte]

I know people don't like seeing his posts around. But allegedly, deboss knows 4 of the noms.

Would be interested to know which ones.

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The four from Newcastle. Not hard to work out

 

[MoneyBags1348]

I know it wasn't any of the fellas in this video…. And I have to say that's a shame



We actually had a night like that down at the Warners Bay Tavern....

If there's any Warners Bay boys from back then holding AVZ shares, they will remember crawling on our bellies across the park on the lake when a heap of cop cars with their lights out turned them on and chased us through the streets, I still remember one of them yelling out "Stop or I'll shoot" I can't remember ever running so fast in my life They were the fucken days.... Think I might try and forget about the current bullshit, put the song on, tell everyone here to get fucked for a change and start enjoying life

PS Keep up the good work @obe wan @9cardomaha @Carlos Danger and anyone else who’s having a go

 

[Thaz]

I reckon there's a few on these pages that made the list. Stand up and be counted boys. REPRESENT!

Still annoyed I didn't get the tap on the shoulder to throw my name in the hat you bastard, yeah I'm looking at you ( not you Thaz ).

Sorry mate.

I'd nominate you, but with a Chinese name, I'm not sure how it would be perceived.

 

[Carlos Danger]

Let me rummage around and see if anything comes loose.

Thanks dude. Also any purported 'cession partielle' of 13359 would require a decree from the MoM. Worth asking around if anyone has heard about there being another new decree on the books.

 

[Jazz]

Well, im booked to head over from Melbourne, arriving the morning before the AGM. Staying in central/west CBD. If anyone's having a few drinks in the area send me a message.

 

[cruiser51]

Key words 'cession partielle' imo

cession partialle = partial transfer
Is the partial transfer from exploration to mining as per AVZ's original plan?

just a thought.

 

[Carlos Danger]

cession partialle = partial transfer
Is the partial transfer from exploration to mining as per AVZ's original plan?

just a thought.

 

[Miljew91]

Well, im booked to head over from Melbourne, arriving the morning before the AGM. Staying in central/west CBD. If anyone's having a few drinks in the area send me a message.


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Mate this poor cat, clean the damn litter box

 

[obe wan]

Have you been able to confirm if the decree is legit?

Fair enough CAMI has to follow the decree if it is indeed real but why is the MoM doing this now against the ICC emergency order. Surely the renewal of the PR could have waited until the first week of November or 13359 could have just been transferred back to Dathcom and converted to PE like the mining code says it should. Why would we need a renewal of PR when our first decree was done after the original expiry date?

ICC emergency order is against Cominiere Carlos , not MoM ; it’s their decision to do as they wish , MoM isn’t there to mother them