AVZ Discussion 2022

[MoneyBags1348]

I read the constitution section on director nominations but am still unsure

I think my confusion stemmed from the 3 new director nominees. It seems each of those 3 seats will only remain if the individual new nominee is elected. So we could be left with somewhere between 4 and 7 on the bod. And only 2 of the original 4 is up for grabs between the 2 seeking reelection and the absolute clown car of other candidates with the current holders getting first dibs followed by the other list in order. Is that right @GD4 ?

If so then why the fuck would MMGA bother nominating 3 candidates when only 2 can get on the bod?

Anyone else here having issues with this site. It’s been playing up on me with a new type of advertising format for the last few days, but now it’s gone even further and won’t even show up a sign off link on my profile

What the fuck is going on @zeeb0t

 

[Jazz]

Anyone have shares in a BT super SMSF? I got this response when asking about voting at AGM.

 

[Remark]

Anyone else here having issues with this site. It’s been playing up on me with a new type of advertising format for the last few days, but now it’s gone even further and won’t even show up a sign off link on my profile

What the fuck is going on @zeeb0t

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It was a bit glitchy for me earlier today, very slow to refresh

 

[MoneyBags1348]

It was a bit glitchy for me earlier today, very slow to refresh

Yes me too, but it’s changed to the point there is no longer a logging off option for me….

Just found another way of doing it Remark but tse needs to pull their finger out, we don’t want it going to shit like the crapper

Now that I found another way, I’m going to get off here…. But just wanted to add my thoughts on voting

I could be wrong but it appears the BOD is voting against all nominees so they don’t knock out the three they have recently picked who are right at the bottom

So they better be sure they have their numbers right. Perhaps if the numbers were against us it wouldn’t make any difference anyway, but just thought I would throw that out there

And also putting it out there that FIRB scrutinises where the votes from Yibin Tianyi, Huayou and Lithium Plus went

 

[Mr_Tones83]

Anyone have shares in a BT super SMSF? I got this response when asking about voting at AGM.
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Basically what they're saying is that they have one HIN with all client holdings held in aggregate on that HIN.
You could contact them directly to ask whether they will allow voting on behalf of your holdings and to direct them in a certain way, but a lot of these service providers won't entertain it because it's too cumbersome for them to manage operationally, and they could just say sorry we don't allow voting on AGM resolutions (or they may charge a fee to do it).

Edit: But it's definitely worth asking them to make sure

 

[DiscoDanNZ]

You guys have too much time on your hands, thank fuck because I'm totally missing what you are referring to with the 'vote green'. Can someone enlighten me/tell me how to vote so the only seat Fat Tail have a chance of getting is on the Zijin strap on.

 

[Azzler]

You guys have too much time on your hands, thank fuck because I'm totally missing what you are referring to with the 'vote green'. Can someone enlighten me/tell me how to vote so the only seat Fat Tail have a chance of getting is on the Zijin strap on.

The green proxy form is to vote how AVZ board have instructed.
That's what vote green means, do as recommended by the board.

Make it easier on yourself and just vote online though. We were all just sent an email with a link to click that goes to Automic without having to log in, and you can vote.


Edit: The email has links to the Notice of Annual General Meeting document with tells you how to vote and recommends how to vote. It also contains the proxy forms.
But as I said it also has the link to just vote online instead.

Double Edit:
For the utterly lazy, here is a copy paste of the boards recommendations:


"Your Board unanimously recommends Shareholders VOTE AGAINST the appointment of the Fat Tail
Nominees at the AGM to be held on 23 November 2023.
We strongly believe that the current independent Board is best placed to drive the Company’s future
success and successful delivery of the Manono Project.

Accordingly, I urge you to VOTE FOR Resolutions 1, 18 to 22 and VOTE AGAINST Resolutions 2
to 17."

-Dr John Clarke
Non-Executive Chairman

 

[Scoota30]

You guys have too much time on your hands, thank fuck because I'm totally missing what you are referring to with the 'vote green'. Can someone enlighten me/tell me how to vote so the only seat Fat Tail have a chance of getting is on the Zijin strap on.

I would recommend everyone to vote online through automic, next to each resolution it has in brackets (Board not endorsed) OR (board endorsed) to make it even easier.

 

[Jazz]

Basically what they're saying is that they have one HIN with all client holdings held in aggregate on that HIN.
You could contact them directly to ask whether they will allow voting on behalf of your holdings and to direct them in a certain way, but a lot of these service providers won't entertain it because it's too cumbersome for them to manage operationally, and they could just say sorry we don't allow voting on AGM resolutions (or they may charge a fee to do it).

Edit: But it's definitely worth asking them to make sure

Thanks.
I will take it up with them. If anyone else has shares held with BT SMSF send me a message so I can keep you informed.

 

[DiscoDanNZ]

The green proxy form is to vote how AVZ board have instructed.
That's what vote green means, do as recommended by the board.

Make it easier on yourself and just vote online though. We were all just sent an email with a link to click that goes to Automic without having to log in, and you can vote.


Edit: The email has links to the Notice of Annual General Meeting document with tells you how to vote and recommends how to vote. It also contains the proxy forms.
But as I said it also has the link to just vote online instead.

Is this (Posted by Carlos) how the board have instructed? Sorry just haven't had the time to read through the 20 odd pages since yesterday. Just got the email with links and documents but wanting to get it done now while I have a spare minute.

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Is this (Posted by Carlos) how the board have instructed? Sorry just haven't had the time to read through the 20 odd pages since yesterday. Just got the email with links and documents but wanting to get it done now while I have a spare minute.


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Yes that’s it Disco

 

[DiscoDanNZ]

Yes that’s it Disco

Done, fuck Fat Tail. Really can't decide which gif I like the best for them so heres one for each of their nominations.

 

[Winenut]

You guys have too much time on your hands, thank fuck because I'm totally missing what you are referring to with the 'vote green'. Can someone enlighten me/tell me how to vote so the only seat Fat Tail have a chance of getting is on the Zijin strap on.

Geezuz....

I thought this was the Vote Green

 

[Retrobyte]

If so then why the fuck would MMGA bother nominating 3 candidates when only 2 can get on the bod?

Because they nominated those 3 before Her Excellency was appointed last week. She reduced the number of available spots from 3 to 2

 

[Carlos Danger]

Because they nominated those 3 before Her Excellency was appointed last week. She reduced the number of available spots from 3 to 2

What happens to her seat if she doesn't get elected?

Also I realised there is a chance we could end up with somewhere between 2 - 7 not 4 - 7 as potentially all candidates could lose

 

[Strongman]

Done, fuck Fat Tail. Really can't decide which gif I like the best for them so heres one for each of their nominations.

Yep dead simple online. From the Notice of AGM email click the link takes you to Automic form. Check full holding box , nominate chair of meeting as proxy then on voting form its for or against then click save and your done. Takes about a minute
Havent received the Notice of AGM for my SMSF holdings yet. Is an online portal ( E SUPER) so i will expect it over next few days

 

[Mr_Tones83]

Yep dead simple online. From the Notice of AGM email click the link takes you to Automic form. Check full holding box , nominate chair of meeting as proxy then on voting form its for or against then click save and your done. Takes about a minute
Havent received the Notice of AGM for my SMSF holdings yet. Is an online portal ( E SUPER) so i will expect it over next few days

You are able to link your Automic account with multiple HINs, including the HIN linked to your SMSF (assuming you're trading through CMC with esuper). Log into Automic and there's a link at the top right "Add holding - Add additional HIN's and SRN's". Then you'll be able to vote both holdings via the portal

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Geezuz....

I thought this was the Vote Green

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That’s Bruce, the first nominee

 

[Samus]

That voting against the other nominations ( apart from the 3 MMGS toddlers ) has to be another of our admin fuck ups.

There's still 2 positions up for grabs from that pool of ( red ) ‘vote against ‘ so why on earth would you be voting against the other contenders ; detractors would just load in the no votes to add to ‘recommended no votes ’ shareholders followed, but then load in the yes vote for the 3 morons and they’d get in...who put this thing together

Like I said vote 1 Bruce Campbell
I did.

 

[Schmi46M]

Hello,
You in Australia will probably have to save the thing on your own because I'm desperately trying to register in Germany but I don't know the SRN/HIN numbers and my bank couldn't help me either. I wrote to AVZ about this but unfortunately received no response. So I hope I agree unanimously with no.