AVZ Discussion 2022

Makes sense. With that said, it seems AVZ have stacked the current board of directors anyway, so even if somehow all 3 make it on they will be out voted at every turn.

I presume thats means for peformance shares and pay packages as well?

Hopefully the FIRB is also watching AVZ like a hawk.

AVZ didn’t stack the draw…. It was done in front of a lawyer and the list is the order the names were drawn.

AVZ has followed legal procedures, unlike stooges who put out disinformation, make sure you get the facts right
 
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I’ve put enough information here to think about, now I’ve got better fucken things to do today.
 
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AVZ didn’t stack the draw…. It was done in front of a lawyer and the list is the order the names were drawn.

AVZ has followed legal procedures, unlike stooges who put out disinformation, make sure you get the facts right

Note that I didn't say "stack the draw", I said "stacked the board".
 
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Winenut

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Note that I didn't say "stack the draw", I said "stacked the board".

Yes the AVZ board has recently had some excellent appointments

Casta Tungaraza, Serge Ngandu and now Her Excellency Salome T. Sijaona

All well credentialled and very positive for AVZ in my opinion

You would think they would be aligned with the current board and give them some numbers when deciding on matters

The last thing anyone wants now is a stupid and divisive element from MMGA getting a seat at the table in the upcoming elections

All that would do is create a massive rift in the board, disunity in direction for AVZ and be incredibly counter-productive

Vote NO to MMGA ....absolutely, purely, self interested disruptors IMO
 
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Yes the AVZ board has recently had some excellent appointments

Casta Tungaraza, Serge Ngandu and now Her Excellency Salome T. Sijaona

All well credentialled and very positive for AVZ in my opinion

You would think they would be aligned with the current board and give them some numbers when deciding on matters

The last thing anyone wants now is a stupid and divisive element from MMGA getting a seat at the table in the upcoming elections

All that would do is create a massive rift in the board, disunity in direction for AVZ and be incredibly counter-productive

Vote NO to MMGA ....absolutely, purely self interested disruptors IMO
We dont want them on the board regardless. You can just imagine after a board meeting these muppets running to their masters to divulge what was said.
 
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Winenut

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We dont want them on the board regardless. You can just imagine after a board meeting these muppets running to their masters to divulge what was said.
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We dont want them on the board regardless. You can just imagine after a board meeting these muppets running to their masters to divulge what was said.

Great point. I was thinking what's the worst one or 2 votes can do.

There must be another hand the board can play if 1 happens to get on to act as a little messenger boy. Can they exclude board members from certain information?

Eg. If a board member thought it was in the company's best interest to slap the president on national television or something equally harmful, what power does the current board have to exclude said board member? They must have some?
 

Winenut

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Yes the AVZ board has recently had some excellent appointments

Casta Tungaraza, Serge Ngandu and now Her Excellency Salome T. Sijaona

All well credentialled and very positive for AVZ in my opinion

You would think they would be aligned with the current board and give them some numbers when deciding on matters

The last thing anyone wants now is a stupid and divisive element from MMGA getting a seat at the table in the upcoming elections

All that would do is create a massive rift in the board, disunity in direction for AVZ and be incredibly counter-productive

Vote NO to MMGA ....absolutely, purely, self interested disruptors IMO

Sorry to reply to myself but I think it's important to remember that the appointments of Casta Tungaraza, Serge Ngandu and now Her Excellency Salome T. Sijaona are only "until" the AGM

My understanding is all three will be standing for "re-election" to the board come the November AGM

I'm pretty sure AVZ will make this clear in their formal communication
 
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Winenut

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Great point. I was thinking what's the worst one or 2 votes can do.

There must be another hand the board can play if 1 happens to get on to act as a little messenger boy. Can they exclude board members from certain information?
Not sure.....but probably not

That's why it's so important to make sure none of the MMGA stooges get anywhere near the board.....not one.......fullstop
 
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Winenut

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Sorry to reply to myself but I think it's important to remember that the appointments of Casta Tungaraza, Serge Ngandu and now Her Excellency Salome T. Sijaona are only "until" the AGM

My understanding is all three will be standing for "re-election" to the board come the November AGM

I'm pretty sure AVZ will make this clear in their formal communication
Retro covered it well here..

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j.l

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Yes the AVZ board has recently had some excellent appointments

Casta Tungaraza, Serge Ngandu and now Her Excellency Salome T. Sijaona

All well credentialled and very positive for AVZ in my opinion

You would think they would be aligned with the current board and give them some numbers when deciding on matters

The last thing anyone wants now is a stupid and divisive element from MMGA getting a seat at the table in the upcoming elections

All that would do is create a massive rift in the board, disunity in direction for AVZ and be incredibly counter-productive

Vote NO to MMGA ....absolutely, purely, self interested disruptors IMO
Yeah, if even one of the MMAGgots gets in there, they have a mole in the inside (again) and there will be a new (old) source of leaks and the rot will start again.
 
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Winenut

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Yeah, if even one of the MMAGgots gets in there, they have a mole in the inside (again) and there will be a new (old) source of leaks and the rot will start again.
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So what's the go with board can they informally keep crucial stuff from the mole Director I wonder (off books of course) - I guess the only positive is at least they now know Peter is corrupt and leaking like a siv
 
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Not sure.....but probably not

That's why it's so important to make sure none of the MMGA stooges get anywhere near the board.....not one.......fullstop
Yep. A ship can sink with only one hole, but it will sink faster with a few holes.

Remind me again, what kind of holes are the MMGA crew?
 
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What amazes me is why do we need 9 (?) board members ........just adds to the running costs.
Can we operate with say six.....or is it in the company rules.
Sorry for the dumb questions......
 
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Winenut

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What amazes me is why do we need 9 (?) board members ........just adds to the running costs.
Can we operate with say six.....or is it in the company rules.
Sorry for the dumb questions......

Don't "need" 9 but I think the constitution states there can be a "maximum" of 9

The board has certainly operated with less than 9 to this point and may still operate with less than 9 after the AGM depending on whether additional nominees actually get the required votes or not
 
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Roon

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Won't that be more board members than employees? Haha
 
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j.l

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What amazes me is why do we need 9 (?) board members ........just adds to the running costs.
Can we operate with say six.....or is it in the company rules.
Sorry for the dumb questions......
At a time of crisis when austerity measures rather than bonuses and additional salaries would seem wise, it is odd that they are hiring.

Taking the positive view, they wouldn't be doing this unless they had reasonable expectations of progress in the near term.

Taking the negative view, well they've had expectations before... (🍾 pop!)
 
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