AVZ Discussion 2022

Where is the Mining License? AVZ BoD being run in circles. High pay no results .At the AGM they must speak the truth about their failure.
The mining licence was cancelled without any legal basis in an act of the prince. Conflicts between shareholders of a JV as a reason for cancellation of a granted PE is not listed in the DRC Mining Code. The reasons allowed for forfeiture are the 'non- payment of surface rights' and 'the non-start of the works' which is not the case for Dathcom.

Article 48 of the DRC mining code states 'The mining and/or quarry rights may be withdrawn or brought back, without retroactive effect, by the granting authority in the event of illegality during the granting, in three months following the publication of the award decision in the Official Journal or, failing that, within three months following the date of becoming aware of its existence, either at the request of an injured third party, or at the granting authority initiative.' None of these apply either.

The cadastral, environmental, technical and compliance favourable opinions remain valid to this day and have never been declared illegal and no reason or illegality in the granting procedure has emerged. This is completely abnormal and legally untenable.

Not sure what else you want AVZ management to do other than seek a remedy through international arbitration unless you want to give control of Manono to China. Maybe I answered my own question just now as well as yours.
 
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The mining licence was cancelled without any legal basis in an act of the prince. Conflicts between shareholders of a JV as a reason for cancellation of a granted PE is not listed in the DRC Mining Code. The reasons allowed for forfeiture are the 'non- payment of surface rights' and 'the non-start of the works' which is not the case for Dathcom.

Article 48 of the DRC mining code states 'The mining and/or quarry rights may be withdrawn or brought back, without retroactive effect, by the granting authority in the event of illegality during the granting, in three months following the publication of the award decision in the Official Journal or, failing that, within three months following the date of becoming aware of its existence, either at the request of an injured third party, or at the granting authority initiative.' None of these apply either.

The cadastral, environmental, technical and compliance favourable opinions remain valid to this day and have never been declared illegal and no reason or illegality in the granting procedure has emerged. This is completely abnormal and legally untenable.

Not sure what else you want AVZ management to do other than seek a remedy through international arbitration unless you want to give control of Manono to China. Maybe I answered my own question just now as well as yours.

One of the most correct, elegant and respectful responses I have seen in history........... given to a complete fucking troll

Kudos Carlos :cool:
 
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anyone translate this French?
 

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To remind:


Sale of the mining assets of Cominière SA: Technical director Célestin Kibeya accused of complicity and usurpation of competence

Sale of the mining assets of Cominière SA: Technical director Célestin Kibeya accused of complicity and usurpation of competence

Congolese civil society organizations and platforms specializing in mining issues (Justicia Asbl, LICOCO, RND Asbl, POM, MDR, GANVE, CDH, ESPOIR ONG, RCEN, CERN/CENCO, TPRDC, MAX IMPACT), monitoring exploitation of natural resources in the Democratic Republic of Congo, accused, in a press release, the technical director Célestin Kibeya Kabemba of being no stranger to the selling off of the mining assets of the Congolese mining company (Cominière SA).

Worse still, the man exercises the functions of interim Director General without presidential order, nor decree of the ministry of supervision, that of the Portfolio, even less a report of the Board of directors.

"Already on October 26, 2022, when the interim Managing Director Mwamba Athanase was not yet in the hands of Congolese justice, the same Mr. Kibeya had co-signed as '' Managing Director ai '' on behalf of Cominière SA a press release press attributed to UNITED COMINIERE SAS with Eric Allard, a convicted person in Lubumbashi for forgery and use of forgery, and Michel Kitwa Nelkin. “, denounce these NGOs.

These structures draw the particular attention of the President of the Republic, Félix Félix Tshisekedi and the Prime Minister, Jean-Michel Sama Lukonde to these facts. "Mr. Célestin Kibeya is one of the key players in the sale of Cominière SA shares to Jin Cheng Mining Company Limited (a subsidiary of Zijin) and the undervaluation of the market value castigated by the General Inspectorate of Finance ( IGF) and for which Mr. Mwamba is the only one warned to date, while several elements demonstrate internal teamwork at Cominière SA. “, warn these civil society structures.

Bradage des actifs miniers de la Cominière SA : Le directeur technique Célestin Kibeya accusé de complicité et d’usurpation de compétence – Congo nouveau


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Finally a smart observation.
 
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cruiser51

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And another Congolese citizen telling his minister to stop talking.
It is time to do a bit.
Parliamentarians forte is to talk even in their graves ffs.

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Jonnno needs a hug for all his hard work!!!
 
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It is becoming painfully clear even the Congolese people are losing patience with their parliamentarians, who live in a world of their own.
Let's have another forum in Paris, the weather in autumn is still nice!


If Felix wants to make a master stroke to get re-elected he should issue the bloody mining license!
 
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Anyone else getting Manono in the goolgle maps when they open this page?

 
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Days are numbered. Pretty embarressing for the government to lose his shit in a public forum. (Apologies if already posted)


DRC Africa Battery Metals Forum: Célestin Kibeya reframes Serge Ngandu on the Manono lithium file – AVZ never had 75% of the shares in DATHCOM in liquidation​



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https://geopolismagazine.net/drc-af...eu-75-des-parts-dans-dathcom-en-liquidation/#
The creation of a battery metal value chain will help Africa in general and the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) achieve its long-term vision. To achieve the African Union Agenda 2063 of creating “the Africa we want”, it is important that the continent commits to creating a battery metals value chain. As one of the leading producers

global battery metals including cobalt and very soon lithium from Manono, the DRC is the key to realizing this vision. On Wednesday, September 20, around 1 p.m. Kinshasa time, during the session dedicated to stakeholder interventions entitled “What you need to know about the batteries and metals industry”, Mr. Serge Ngandu, Director of Corporate Affairs of AVZ Minerals RDC, presenting the project to the audience, declared, regarding the Manono lithium project, that “discussions are very advanced with the Government of the DRC today on this very sustainable project, economically profitable with a clear vision on clean energy and community development.” And continued: “AVZ is committed to developing the Manono project according to the highest ESG standards and becoming a significant contributor to the global lithium-ion battery value chain. ”

Before this exercise, Mr. Serge Ngandu had started by presenting the DATHCOM MINING SA project to the investors present in the room but unfortunately, he had expressly talked about the para-public COMINIERE SA.

An attitude which provoked the anger of Célestin Kibeya Kabemba, formerly its General Director present in the Capitol of the Kin Plazza by Rotana hotel like all the other partners, investors, experts and researchers interested in this mega project.

Taking the first floor in the part devoted to the question and answer game, the boss of COMINIERE SA promptly asked (demanded) the Director of Corporate Affairs of AVZ to correct his remarks and above all, not to ignore the existence of COMINIERE SA as representative of the interests of the Congolese State in the Manono project. Before asserting that DATHCOM has already been legally dissolved. The same applies to the termination of the Joint Venture contract between AVZ and DATHCOM MINING SA, which is in the process of being liquidated for the benefit of COMINIERE SA since April 4, 2023. But unfortunately, maintains the CEO Célestin Kibeya, M Serge Ngandu hid this today from the participants of the DRC Africa Battery Metals Forum. “AVZ never had 75% of the shares in DATHCOM MINING SA,” he insisted.

It should be noted that Congolaise de l'exploitation minière, acronym COMINIERE SA, is a limited commercial company under OHADA business law. It is a young company created on April 12, 2010 following the decision of the General Assembly of shareholders namely, the Ministry of the Portfolio and the National Institute of Social Security (INSS), currently the National Social Security Fund (CNSS) . The share capital of COMINIERE SA is 90% held by the Congolese State through the Ministry of Portfolio and 10% by the CNSS.
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Days are numbered. Pretty embarressing for the government to lose his shit in a public forum. (Apologies if already posted)


DRC Africa Battery Metals Forum: Célestin Kibeya reframes Serge Ngandu on the Manono lithium file – AVZ never had 75% of the shares in DATHCOM in liquidation​



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https://geopolismagazine.net/drc-af...eu-75-des-parts-dans-dathcom-en-liquidation/#
The creation of a battery metal value chain will help Africa in general and the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) achieve its long-term vision. To achieve the African Union Agenda 2063 of creating “the Africa we want”, it is important that the continent commits to creating a battery metals value chain. As one of the leading producers

global battery metals including cobalt and very soon lithium from Manono, the DRC is the key to realizing this vision. On Wednesday, September 20, around 1 p.m. Kinshasa time, during the session dedicated to stakeholder interventions entitled “What you need to know about the batteries and metals industry”, Mr. Serge Ngandu, Director of Corporate Affairs of AVZ Minerals RDC, presenting the project to the audience, declared, regarding the Manono lithium project, that “discussions are very advanced with the Government of the DRC today on this very sustainable project, economically profitable with a clear vision on clean energy and community development.” And continued: “AVZ is committed to developing the Manono project according to the highest ESG standards and becoming a significant contributor to the global lithium-ion battery value chain. ”

Before this exercise, Mr. Serge Ngandu had started by presenting the DATHCOM MINING SA project to the investors present in the room but unfortunately, he had expressly talked about the para-public COMINIERE SA.

An attitude which provoked the anger of Célestin Kibeya Kabemba, formerly its General Director present in the Capitol of the Kin Plazza by Rotana hotel like all the other partners, investors, experts and researchers interested in this mega project.

Taking the first floor in the part devoted to the question and answer game, the boss of COMINIERE SA promptly asked (demanded) the Director of Corporate Affairs of AVZ to correct his remarks and above all, not to ignore the existence of COMINIERE SA as representative of the interests of the Congolese State in the Manono project. Before asserting that DATHCOM has already been legally dissolved. The same applies to the termination of the Joint Venture contract between AVZ and DATHCOM MINING SA, which is in the process of being liquidated for the benefit of COMINIERE SA since April 4, 2023. But unfortunately, maintains the CEO Célestin Kibeya, M Serge Ngandu hid this today from the participants of the DRC Africa Battery Metals Forum. “AVZ never had 75% of the shares in DATHCOM MINING SA,” he insisted.

It should be noted that Congolaise de l'exploitation minière, acronym COMINIERE SA, is a limited commercial company under OHADA business law. It is a young company created on April 12, 2010 following the decision of the General Assembly of shareholders namely, the Ministry of the Portfolio and the National Institute of Social Security (INSS), currently the National Social Security Fund (CNSS) . The share capital of COMINIERE SA is 90% held by the Congolese State through the Ministry of Portfolio and 10% by the CNSS.
Dieudonné Buanali

A lot of us have seen this scumbag before.

He’s the DRC’s version of tommy turd. Refers to himself as a social media influencer

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Anyone else getting Manono in the goolgle maps when they open this page?

Looks like Celestine has made it easy for people to contact their offices.

Head Office

: Av colonel EBEYA, N°56, Immeuble Bon Coin-Appartement N°8 Commune de la Gombe Kinshasa/RDC

: +243 125 100 187

: +243 815 996 712

: infos@cominiere.cd

: www.cominiere.cd

Lubumbashi office

: Kamanyola Avenue, No. 12912 - Municipality of Lubumbashi

: +243 815 996 712

: +243 815 996 712

: infos@cominiere.cd

: www.cominiere.cd

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BRICK

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Looks like Celestine has made it easy for people to contact their offices.

Head Office

: Av colonel EBEYA, N°56, Immeuble Bon Coin-Appartement N°8 Commune de la Gombe Kinshasa/RDC

: +243 125 100 187

: +243 815 996 712

: infos@cominiere.cd

: www.cominiere.cd

Lubumbashi office

: Kamanyola Avenue, No. 12912 - Municipality of Lubumbashi

: +243 815 996 712

: +243 815 996 712

: infos@cominiere.cd

: www.cominiere.cd

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Looks like the map is where they are hoping to locate their head office
 
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Dijon101

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Website is woefully out of date.

Still lists dathcom as a partner even though the JV has been dissolved since April.... (all in direct conflict of a ICC RULING)
Absolute amateurs.. can't even pay their Web developers to update their website.

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You'd say that logically a minority partner has zero authority both logically and legally to dissolve a JV and take 100% ownership of the project like Cominiere are claiming.

I'd like to believe that Cominiere are now an irrelevant organisation and are no longer involved in the project. Just as stated in Serge's presentation.
 
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Website is woefully out of date.

Still lists dathcom as a partner even though the JV has been dissolved since April....
Absolute amateurs..
With only a superficial look into them, After 13 years, what have these turkeys actually accomplished?

I reckon it’s time to admit it didn’t work out and dissolve them
 
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With only a superficial look into them, After 13 years, what have these turkeys actually accomplished?

I reckon it’s time to admit it didn’t work out and dissolve them
Bribes and churning leases between explorers that have no intention to go to mine
 
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