AVZ Discussion 2022

[JAG]

Dont you just love the way Zijin talk in their bs ann abt the 15%.....

Oh we are currently mining in the DRC and benefiting the people with our tax dollars, and oh we hope AVZ comes to terms with us owning 15% as we'd really like to help start building the mine

fuck off you filthy fucks

yeah it makes me livid, and who knows when it will be sorted, but I still stand by my older statement that if Zijins in I wont be selling (gave all the reasons for it), will I be pissed off? hell yes, will I throw away my shares to the worlds best Lithium mine? don't think so, but I may sell a couple depending on the outcome of %'s etc

 

[JAG]

Thanks @BEISHA I've been on the Clobber for a few years, but the S/N ratio gets pretty low most of the time so I don't post much. When your charts disappeared and someone where you went, I decided to check it out. The problem is once everyone starts coming here, _everyone_ starts coming here...

The problem is once everyone starts coming here, _everyone_ starts coming here...

Just so you know......this is not HShitter and we as the group. especially financial members control the thread... meaning, downramping and fake accounts can easily be deleted by the faithful

 

[Mr Inappropriate]

This is the way I see it, its a balls up from the government and possibly a touch of mis-management from our boys, but at the end of the day what I've put here seems to be it in a nutshell, and Franck just agreed.
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We had better hope that the 15% is a question of law rather than ministerial or other delegated authority (that may be open to corrupt influence). If it’s the former, we at least have legal avenues and remedies to pursue.

 

[blu]

When this baby hits $2 it's a whole new discussion about brewing equipment - provided the Countess doesn't see the invoice!

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200L batch - should be enough for the weekend, yeah?

Cheers.
TC.

Check out https://cheekypeakbrewery.com.au/na...s-flexi-filter-17-plate-gasketed-wort-chiller

I'm personally looking at all in one when we hit $2

https://cheekypeakbrewery.com.au/2-nano-x-50l-v1-single-vessel-brew-system

 

[obe wan]

Check out https://cheekypeakbrewery.com.au/na...s-flexi-filter-17-plate-gasketed-wort-chiller

I'm personally looking at all in one when we hit $2

https://cheekypeakbrewery.com.au/2-nano-x-50l-v1-single-vessel-brew-system

Yes cheekypeak is good gear,; there's my setup, gone electric, cheeky peak kettle on the left and I dropped one of their herms into the tank at the end ; had to get the sparkies around to beef up the wiring for it. Keeps me out of the bottlo

 

[Rambo]

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Great finds ohreally, I do believe this mining journalist Frank knows his stuff. He is quick to provide facts to people who start arguments based on false information. Definitely adds confidence to my own thoughts. I wish he would put the igf report out in its entirety. I think we would all like to see it.

 

[DiscoDanNZ]

The problem is once everyone starts coming here, _everyone_ starts coming here...

Just so you know......this is not HShitter and we as the group. especially financial members control the thread... meaning, downramping and fake accounts can easily be deleted by the faithful

When you say financial members are you meaning as an AVZ holder or you have put money into the forum?

 

[Rambo]

I am curious what procedures are available to the government to remedy the situation or how long it is take. It is really frustrating that on the cusp of a pivotal company moment from explorers to miners we end up in this mess. But it goes to show when something is truly valuable and the work to prove this has been done, people will do just about anything to get a piece of the pie.

 

[JAG]

When you say financial members are you meaning as an AVZ holder or you have put money into the forum?

 

[Doc]

Yes cheekypeak is good gear,; there's my setup, gone electric, cheeky peak kettle on the left and I dropped one of their herms into the tank at the end ; had to get the sparkies around to beef up the wiring for it. Keeps me out of the bottlo

Ok, so when this thing starts to fly we start the pub crawl. Start at The Counts, onto blu’s and finish at Obe’s. I heard Frank is paying for the private jet

 

[Rambo]

Seems Franck implied that basically AVZ would win at the ICC, so maybe we take what we have to France and shut them down for good...may be the quickest remedy beyond a presidential decree....would think the ICC will take a couple of months, and I believe they have a max of 6 months to make a decision

Seriously Zijin are outright evil scum vultures

Maybe ask Franck if you want his thoughts

Yes, after putting everything I’ve read together in my head that’s what I gather as well. Zinjin are terrible more than anything I’ll be embarrassed if they do manage to become a partner. I agree with Frank’s objective view. Whatever the case let’s hope for a quick outcome.

I think I’m starting to get a bit of excitement for tomorrow. Let’s see if the company provides any guidance.

 

[Rediah]

Hi guys/gals,
Just a quick intro of myself, 2nd time posting here, from Brisbane, recently joined AVZ (last December), bit late to the party you may say, but here I am as some of my good friends are with AVZ for a over 2-3 years,, joined this forum/page after I couldn't find why AVZ went south soon after the big annoucement related to ML as there were no official wording so had to resort to social media where saw the trolls like SaneGeist on twitter (bad idea) and then came to this page, have learnt a lot from you guys and got fair bit of idea about the current situation. So thank you for that

 

[Hemicuda]

Hi guys/gals,
Just a quick intro of myself, 2nd time posting here, from Brisbane, recently joined AVZ (last December), bit late to the party you may say, but here I am as some of my good friends are with AVZ for a over 2-3 years,, joined this forum/page after I couldn't find why AVZ went south soon after the big annoucement related to ML as there were no official wording so had to resort to social media where saw the trolls like SaneGeist on twitter (bad idea) and then came to this page, have learnt a lot from you guys and got fair bit of idea about the current situation. So thank you for that

Welcome mate, good to have some more representation from north of the border

 

[Samus]

Seems Franck implied that basically AVZ would win at the ICC, so maybe we take what we have to France and shut them down for good...may be the quickest remedy beyond a presidential decree....would think the ICC will take a couple of months, and I believe they have a max of 6 months to make a decision

Seriously Zijin are outright evil scum vultures

Maybe ask Franck if you want his thoughts

Got to wonder just how much of this management has known about. I am not well versed in asx disclosure rules whatsoever but you have to assume they have been very confident in the legal advice they have received to date. You'd imagine something like this could cause big trouble for them otherwise.

 

[Samus]

Seems Franck implied that basically AVZ would win at the ICC, so maybe we take what we have to France and shut them down for good...may be the quickest remedy beyond a presidential decree....would think the ICC will take a couple of months, and I believe they have a max of 6 months to make a decision

Seriously Zijin are outright evil scum vultures

Maybe ask Franck if you want his thoughts

By the way, that's it I'm naming my next child Franck.

 

[Bin59]

By the way, that's it I'm naming my next child Franck.

 

[DiscoDanNZ]

Seems Franck implied that basically AVZ would win at the ICC, so maybe we take what we have to France and shut them down for good...may be the quickest remedy beyond a presidential decree....would think the ICC will take a couple of months, and I believe they have a max of 6 months to make a decision

Seriously Zijin are outright evil scum vultures

Maybe ask Franck if you want his thoughts

There's two things I've gathered about the ICC.

1: They have 6 months to make a decision once both sides submit their evidence.
2: They can't even enforce the ruling they make.

Lets say they rule against us, I imagine a hit to the SP and even more incessant trolling from low lifes (obviously).

Now lets say they rule in our favour, a big stiff middle finger from Nige and all of us to Zin and Jin (I also like the idea of us all mooning them like the Scots in Braveheart), SP holds at worst but preferably improves dramatically. Doesn't mean its the end of all of this as far as the legal stuff goes. I'm sure Zin and Jin will just move along to the next court that will take their application fee.

 

[CashKing]

Oh I'm a shit stirrer. Didn't get a reply from the jinballs so sent a follow up

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Hahaha I like the subtle….. “Hello Again”

I’m just bringing it to your attention

They’d be like this guy again…. But he has attached screenshots now …..

GLTAH

 

[BEISHA]

Likely I'm being naieve, but after reading endless shit and debate over multiple platforms since the 4th of May, I think the information people are wanting from AVZ, has already been annouced.
Despite all the controvercy, haven't AVZ already told the market something like, 'Nah Zijin are full of shit, and have no legal claim.'?
Do we need to hear any more?

I am faily certain if the calims AVZ have made about ownership percentage, and having first right of refusal on the remaining 15%, if any of that was incorrect, we would have seen that explained how it was incorrect by now, especially with the sea of downrampers that has emerged, they would have dug that up and plasted it in the forums by now.

Don't follow twatter-full of bollix and haven't been there in ages.
Gotta laugh though, complaining about what AVZ investors post. DESPERATE.

Have to say that I'm more than disappointed in FT and DRC government.
On their anti-corruption watch, this shit was allowed to happen. Surely, before righting wrongs one needs to enforce the rules for the present.
I suspect a power struggle rages, the outcome of which may not be clear cut yet. Fingers X

I believe there was about four months between the dodgy vote and the transfer of shares. Where was NF? and why not call another meeting to reverse the decision? Or did I miss something.
It seems he relied on the law to come to our aid. Where are you FT?

Overall I'm unimpressed, the law is obviously on AVZ's side but will it be enforced and when?

If FT is to right this wrong and get his showcase project our of reverse then he probably has two options:

Push it through the courts PRONTO

or

Issue some sort of Presidential decree.
A little difficult in a 'democracy' where nepotism and favouritism are sworn enemies.

With this in mind, I expect a very slow resolution-but would be delighted to be wrong.

Where this leaves us tomorrow is anyone's guess. We could be awaiting resolution and stay in suspension or come out post ML
But then what? Who would produce the FID?

Either way FT needs to get his finger out. Hobnobbing with Biden and other western leaders will not get him re-elected if it comes to nought financially.

Only imho

BTW @Winenut please don't mention TT it brings on my PTSD

Excellent, well reasoned posts guys, I have mentioned this before and i will say it again, i understand everyones frustration with Zijin, we all have substantial dollars invested in AVZ, i have read every possible scenario under the sun from all variety of posters regards to this shit storm , but the only bit of information i am going to take notice of, is the formal announcement tomorrow from NIGEL FERGUSON, CEO of AVZ, in which I have HIGH respect for and assume he is well armed with BAD ASS lawyers.

I am expecting an extension of the TH, cause these legal matters take time, especially with the Chinese , but i will be pleasantly surprised if Nige drops a bomb and confirms AVZ rightful 75% ownership - CATH 24% = 51% , controlling interest , then we can chat about the REAL 15% which AVZ and DRC GOVT are purportedly negotiating.

Further to that, Zijin gets paid the " snack money " that the acting CEO spent with his/ her cronies , told to fuck off and also be advised that there will be investigations into his other projects / dealings in the past........

The corrupt officials of the DRC go to jail.

What will be the reality ?

imo

 

[Samus]

Yeah not sure on every detail so we can only guess, but one really only has to look at our market ann's to see the confidence of management, they've basically said what their stance is and that is as below, so I guess we can only await more details.

I'm assuming extension to suspension tomorrow but will we get a little update on the %'s issue and/or how anything else is progressing....time will tell


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Got to wonder just how much of this management has known about. I am not well versed in asx disclosure rules whatsoever but you have to assume they have been very confident in the legal advice they have received to date. You'd imagine something like this could cause big trouble for them otherwise.

Sorry I had meant to specify in light that this all transpired starting July last year (allegedly)

Agree we'll see further suspension but hopeful for any further clarity.