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Frank
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Live ammunition between Cenco and Félix Tshisekedi: "when he was an opponent, he benefited from the same services of the Church"
It shoots live ammunition between Félix Tshisekedi and the Catholic Church.
While the President of the Republic, from Greater Kasai, drew the attention of the bishops to the behavior to adopt during this delicate period dominated by the organization of elections and the war in the Democratic Republic of Congo, Father Donatien Nshole responded to him on Monday June 26 through a media intervention.
“When he was an opponent, he benefited from the same services from the Church.
Today, the Church remains in the same position.
The same bishops who congratulated him yesterday are telling him today that there is a step backwards,” curtly retorted Monsignor Donatien Nshole, who believes that “there is no drift within the Catholic Church.
I regret that these remarks come from the President of the Republic.
He knows how the Church has always worked, he knows it will never change."
Unfortunately, "I saw that he was angry. He spoke with rage.
He was in his emotions. As a human, that's understandable.
If he had read the entire Cenco report, he would have expressed himself differently,” concluded this Catholic prelate.
Augustin Kabuya, secretary general of the Udps, responds to Bishop Donatien Nshole this Tuesday, June 27 at the headquarters of his party located in Limete 10ᵉ Rue, a residential area.
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Bishop N'shole to Félix Tshisekedi: "there is no deviation from the Catholic Church.
The different messages of the bishops are part of the social doctrine of the Church"
The National Episcopal Conference of Congo has, through its Secretary General, reassured that there is no drift of the Catholic Church and that, he underlined, the various messages of the bishops are part of the social doctrine of the Catholic Church.
Donatien N'shole also says he understands that the head of state in Mbuji-Mayi reacted with anger.
“I believe that the Head of State did not read our last message. He was satisfied with what was reported to him certainly by people who do not like the church”.
The latter held to fix, for the umpteenth time, that the Catholic Church has no candidate.
Rather, she takes a stand alongside the weak.
“The church has always been on the side of the weak.
There was a moment when the situation was hot, it was almost every other day that I was in Limete late at night to see old Étienne Tshisekedi to exchange, and at that moment he was in a weak position compared to to a power that wanted to impose everything.
The church remains in this dynamic.
What has changed is that those who were in opposition are now in power.”
This interview with Bishop Donatien N'shole follows the speech given by the President of the Republic Félix Tshisekedi in Mbuji-Mayi, where the latter denounced the drift within the Catholic Church.
He strongly criticized the position of some Catholic bishops who, according to him, the behavior tends to divide the population in this election year.
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Beyond CENCO's message: blind fanaticism must be banished
In its message from the Plenary Assembly of June 23 in Lubumbashi, CENCO challenges and returns to its usual refrain, increasingly taken into account from a certain opposition: the recomposition of the CENI against the background of other major consequences.
The Catholic Bishops ask, in their own way, the people to wake up to the upcoming elections.
Recognizing the capacity of the population to renew confidence in the leaders of the institutions, the Bishops insisted on the choice of competent leaders and of good probity.
For them, the doors must be closed to opportunists, tribalists, nepotists and others thirsty for power for their own interests.
The precautions were recalled, not to leave the polling stations before the posting of the results.
The security of persons and their property well indicated for the Government.
The CENI is required, by the CENCO, to work well for the transparency of the voting and counting operations by respecting the legal provisions.
Just like the correct follow-up of all the innovations introduced in the electoral law, next to the flawless preparation of the witnesses followed by their deployment by the political parties and groupings.
A curious mix
Worthy recommendations for the interest of credible desired elections, but CENCO returns to claims generally taken up in chorus by a fringe of the opposition.
Semi-condemning the aggravation of insecurity in the east by the M23 under the Rwandan umbrella, the Bishops seem to disapprove under the arguments of the Aggressors.
The insecurity caused by militias and a certain political formation they identify seems piecemeal, ignoring other wrongdoings.
Such, during so-called peaceful demonstrations.
The interpretation of some political actors holding unreported weapons are not listed.
On the contrary, we see them displayed with certain political actors who have left a bad impression in relation to their management of public affairs.
Blind fanaticism, wherever it comes from, must be repelled and banished, giving free rein to awareness, stripped of all misunderstanding.
The Government, organizing power of the elections, is called upon to take into consideration the advice in the direction of the success of the electoral process.
The reduction of the standard of living of the institutions is essential like fair justice and the fight against impunity, even if this time it has not been listed.
The triumphalism of each other is not to be encouraged, in the name of national cohesion and living together.
Introspection on the part of our dear princes of the Catholic Church also remains extremely important to promote harmony between the population that they are crying out for.
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Food for thought
Frank
Hodlandwin69
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Awfully quiet lately
Likely have to wait for ICSID which who knows when it is? 6 months away?
ICC has shown to be a nothing avenue. Even if the hearing is held in September I bet we won't hear anything about it for months.
Cumquat Cap
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Felix is desperate to have all cases dropped before he begins re-election campaign - zero chance of waiting until ICSID hearing IMO (there hasn't been a ICSID case in 10 odd years and its a massive deal) - negotiations happening currently imo
Cumquat Cap
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I think Felix trying to get CATH and CMOC to offer something avz will accept to walk away, or avz will get the license with CATH onboard and a battery plant must be build and spod processed locally (CATH would loathe to do this but needs the supply) IMO
Hodlandwin69
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Can you clairfy what you mean by no ICSID cases in last 10 years?
The negotiation table would make for good entertainment. AVZ walks in and quietly places the IGF report in the centre of the table and says "what's your offer?" If the offer is not in the ballpark Nigel quietly slides a large document towards the centre of the table with "ICSID Brief of Evidence" emblazoned on the cover! Nigel says "10 billion or licence to exploit, which is it?
Cumquat Cap
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i just backed up with research, only one concluded case against the DRC in the past 10 years which they lost, they've rarely been taken to ICSID and with the amount of illegal shit they do i'd say that evidences how rare/serious this action is
Cumquat Cap
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From memory, Nigel said $2 would be the base minimum he'd accept - hope that's USD but who knows. Anyone else have any memories from Shareholder meetings of numbers? it's worth $4 in this context IMO but say that's gonna be tough to achieve
Cumquat Cap
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$10 Billy would be fine with me - still plenty of upside for whoever buys us out
MoneyBags1348
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He said $3 - $3.50 minimum…. Too much bullshit, speculation and rumours supposedly out of the DRC on these threads for the last few weeks, not enough shareholders researching and posting facts
@Frank the big exception, keep up the great work Frank
TDITD
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$10 Billion was a number mentioned by BOD at the shit shows.
Never seen anyone on BOD mention that other number which is too low and insulting for me to even repeat, quite lucky I have never heard it too as I would likely have an involuntary @MoneyBags1348 reaction and cock punch them.
So I shall take what I heard from the horses mouth $10 Billion (USD - why not)
Don't lose sight of exactly what we have here, RD & CDL & never forget the tin.
A strategically and obviously geo-politically very important mammoth deposit that has the potential to control the price of spod for years to come.
$10 Billion for this is a fucking steal !! ....... in fact fuck it Zijin, I think I'll keep it
MoneyBags1348
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$10 Billion was a number mentioned by BOD at the shit shows.
Never seen anyone on BOD mention that other number which is too low and insulting for me to even repeat, quite lucky I have never heard it too as I would likely have an involuntary @MoneyBags1348 reaction and cock punch them.
So I shall take what I heard from the horses mouth $10 Billion (USD - why not)
Don't lose sight of exactly what we have here, RD & CDL & never forget the tin.
A strategically and obviously geo-politically very important mammoth deposit that has the potential to control the price of spod for years to come.
$10 Billion for this is a fucking steal !! ....... in fact fuck it Zijin, I think I'll keep it
No one wants any of this shit. But it's reality.
Hoping you have a source that says there is an offer on the table being negotiated (preferably at $12
).
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