AVZ Discussion 2022

[Onthefm]

Yo guys how many of you got invited to Manono after a roadshow ??? And how many of you would say yes to that opportunity ????

Deboss uploaded on YouTube he’s visit to Manono and is a staunch supporter, he still holds millions of shares & wants the best for all of us shareholders.. Same as Jens..

Being a supporter of Positive Power of thinking doesn’t make him wrong…

He obviously married well also

Nigel has spread more BS that’ll him IMO


GLTAH

Yes mate a whole 2.5 years worth of bulshit. Have you heard the one about working closely and having a strong relationship with the upper echelons of government. Yes the nige Yes well done.

 

[John25]

Hate saying it ....but has Deboss ever come through with any of his predictions or winks or nods????

Nut
Would put Jens in the same basket …SFA …all yap no substance …full of shit

 

[Samus]

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“The 2023 budget of US$16 billion is wrong”, Noël Tshiani contradicts the Congolese Government​

April 23, 2023
Kiki Kienge

By Kiki Kienge
“I believe that the budget we have is a fake, it is fictitious, we will never realize that” . Said, Noël Tshiani in a television program.
Noël Tshiani Mwadiamvita , former candidate in the last presidential elections as a good economist, contradicts the Congolese Government which had presented the draft Finance Law 2023 before the National Assembly, through its Prime Minister, Sama Lukonde Kyenge, a record increase in the budget since the country's independence:
“Never in the Democratic Republic of Congo have we reached such a level of budget forecasts” .
US$16 billion, an increase in the 2023 budget of more or less 32% compared to the previous year. Something that has been acclaimed by the militants of the ruling party, comparing the last budget under the regime of Joseph Kabila , which was 4 billion $US, for Noël Tshiani, this budget is a make-up of the figures which risks to carry the country in economic chaos:
“The problem is that, we have planned the budget, the public revenues of this order, but the expenses of the State continue to commit them at a very high level taking into account a budget of 16 billion $US. From where there will always be a public deficit will be financed how, by the recourse to the printing press, from where the monetary depreciation. I would like people to wake up, you can't deceive people all the time, you can deceive for a little while, but people always end up discovering that there is something wrong. The budget we have is not realistic” .
Is Noel Tshiani right?
According to a large part of the population, yes. Since for some time now we have been witnessing:

• Delays in payment of salaries of civil servants.
• The Minister of Finance, Nicolas Kazadi, who wants to resort to a loan of US$70 million to finance public expenditure.
• The exchange rate of the US dollar, the currency used in the economy and the majority of businesses in the country, continues to increase dizzily. Today 1 $US is exchanged at 2,400 FC on the market. Increases in food prices follow that of the US dollar. In Greater Katanga and Greater Kasai, for example, the price of maize flour, a staple food, has increased more or less by 450%. A 25-kilogram bag that sold 2 months ago at 20,000 FC (+/- 10 $US), is trading today at 110,000 FC (+/- 45 $US). Thing that the Congolese Government seems to be in difficulty to solve for lack of financial means.

Some Congolese economic analysts even put forward the figure of US$4 billion as realistic, given that the prices of the minerals on which the country's budget is based would be falling for the year 2023.

kongopress.com

 

[CashKing]

Yes mate a whole 2.5 years worth of bulshit. Have you heard the one about working closely and having a strong relationship with the upper echelons of government. Yes the nige Yes well done.

I get it mate I really do, maybe it’s just more BS with them 10+ million Shares holding but IMO they being substantial retail holders management would consider them above my holdings and most here I imagine..

If I held 30 million shares right now I’d be at the fucking office most days wanting answers….

They seem to be ok with how it’s all going… albeit Positive Power Of Thinking or blind like the rest of us not sure but FUCK WE NEED SOMETHING RIGHT ???

Or maybe they just married well as I said

What’s 30million shares here and there

 

[The Fox]

Here is a crazy thought...what's stopping AVZ shareholders taking action where the IGF cannot and serving papers on the MoP to appear in the courts of the ICC in Australia

https://www.australianchamber.com.au/membership/international-chamber-of-commerce-australia/

For commercial fraud, crimes against AVZ shareholders. (as per the illegal activities detailed in the IGF report)

Just saying.

But wouldn't that be fun.

I'm not lawyer, but every man in his dog can take whoever to court in the US and other jurisdictions, maybe it's worth exploring for amusement.

Cheers The Fox

 

[Samus]

Here is a crazy thought...what's stopping AVZ shareholders taking action where the IGF cannot and serving papers on the MoP to appear in the courts of the ICC in Australia

https://www.australianchamber.com.au/membership/international-chamber-of-commerce-australia/

For commercial fraud, crimes against AVZ shareholders. (as per the illegal activities detailed in the IGF report)

Just saying.

But wouldn't that be fun.

I'm not lawyer, but every man in his dog can take whoever to court in the US and other jurisdictions, maybe it's worth exploring for amusement.

Cheers The Fox

Might as well fox, it'd certainly make the headlines and embarrass the nasty bitch on the world stage.
Not that anyone over there seems to care how their corruption is perceived.
A bit of grovelling at church, some nonsensical religious tweets and it's all good.
Even get's you reinstated in the government for the fight against corruption.

 

[CashKing]

Might as well fox, it'd certainly make the headlines and embarrass the nasty bitch on the world stage.
Not that anyone over there seems to care how their corruption is perceived.
A bit of grovelling at church, some nonsensical religious tweets and it's all good.
Even get's you reinstated in the government for the fight against corruption.
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That bitch better be announcing AVZ Mining License With an apology and begging for her job in that photo WTF…

 

[Samus]

That bitch better be announcing AVZ Mining License With an apology and begging for her job in that photo WTF…

It's an old photo, she's probably just rejoicing in her divine good fortune for having made herself some serious pocket money.

 

[Winenut]

Here is a crazy thought...what's stopping AVZ shareholders taking action where the IGF cannot and serving papers on the MoP to appear in the courts of the ICC in Australia

https://www.australianchamber.com.au/membership/international-chamber-of-commerce-australia/

For commercial fraud, crimes against AVZ shareholders. (as per the illegal activities detailed in the IGF report)

Just saying.

But wouldn't that be fun.

I'm not lawyer, but every man in his dog can take whoever to court in the US and other jurisdictions, maybe it's worth exploring for amusement.

Cheers The Fox

If we have to resort to that we're fucked

Why can't we just move forward as an ordinary mining company????

Provide employment, respect local laws, adhere to appropriate mining codes, provide good governance, engage the community, mine the resources and teach skills, educate, provide opportunity, pay taxes, pay royalties......what is so fucking hard to understand here!!!!????

 

[Lucas Don Velor]

Yo guys how many of you got invited to Manono after a roadshow ??? And how many of you would say yes to that opportunity ????

Deboss uploaded on YouTube he’s visit to Manono and is a staunch supporter, he still holds millions of shares & wants the best for all of us shareholders.. Same as Jens..

Being a supporter of Positive Power of thinking doesn’t make him wrong…

He obviously married well also

Nigel has spread more BS that’ll him IMO


GLTAH

Given the opportunity, I would 100% visit Manono...

 

[Samus]

#MANONOLITHIUM If the power had granted the EP to @AvzMinerals a year ago, the budget of 16 billion $US could be achieved at least 50%. Because it is the only mineral whose price will increase, unlike Cobalt, Copper and others.
@Presidence_RDC
@YNdjoli

 

[Xerof]

Fuck, between songs and prayers, I spend all my time giving to legend Jonnno on the bird, but it's hard to keep up with his new posts. Is he the only Congolese who 'gets' it though? All the other cunts want to 'renegotiate', against their own mining code and laws, and after the fact

I've asked my leader, through prayer, to strike a select group of people down by lightening

Hallelujah, (Jeff Buckley version)

 

[Onthefm]

Here is a crazy thought...what's stopping AVZ shareholders taking action where the IGF cannot and serving papers on the MoP to appear in the courts of the ICC in Australia

https://www.australianchamber.com.au/membership/international-chamber-of-commerce-australia/

For commercial fraud, crimes against AVZ shareholders. (as per the illegal activities detailed in the IGF report)

Just saying.

But wouldn't that be fun.

I'm not lawyer, but every man in his dog can take whoever to court in the US and other jurisdictions, maybe it's worth exploring for amusement.

Cheers The Fox

Only one problem with that mate. Avz share holders can't afford the lawyers. As the money is being spent on lawyers in Paris.

 

[Azzler]

Fuck, between songs and prayers, I spend all my time giving to legend Jonnno on the bird, but it's hard to keep up with his new posts. Is he the only Congolese who 'gets' it though? All the other cunts want to 'renegotiate', against their own mining code and laws, and after the fact

I've asked my leader, through prayer, to strike a select group of people down by lightening

Hallelujah, (Jeff Buckley version)

Yeah this is doing my head in it keeps popping up with the congolese.
I recon Zijin has stirred that pot, just another thing to delay us.

Every congolese I've engaged with in regards to it seems to be satiated when I've explained what (I think) I know. Or at the very lease has nothing to come back with once I've stated some facts and reasoning.

Some talk about the apparent gift to Dathomir. Ok, what's that got to do with AVZ? Go after Dathomir and Comminiere then.

But when they talk about the value of Manono now vs what AVZ payed for 60% and cry out like we ripped them off, it just makes me want to tear my hair out, and I feel like I'm explaining shit to 6 year olds. Fucking mental really.

 

[MoneyBags1348]

One of the shareholders in a group I keep in touch with privately sent us this today

I haven’t looked into JC Muyambo but my opinion is it’s time for our shareholders on Twitter to contact him and offer him support and information on our situation….

During a press briefing held this Friday in Lubumbashi, capital of Haut-Katanga province, the president of the Congolese Solidarity for Democracy (SCODE) political party expressed his sadness following the regression of the situation. sociopolitics in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC).

According to him, Felix Tshisekedi failed to do better than his predecessor, Kabila

JC Muyambo: “We had a lot of hope that F. Tshisekedi would change things but in 4 years, he is worse than Kabila”

Even the periods of Mobutu, Mzée Kabila and Kabila the son, we have never known such a dear life. Kabila has become even well,” he said.

And to add, during the next elections, the objective is to remove Felix Tshisekedi from power.

“We have a single objective to ensure that in December 2023, Félix Tshisekedi must be erased and that he leaves power”

But we too have estimated that by then, we will keep you informed of the electoral platform so that we get together with other candidates to oust Mr. Tshisekedi from power,” he said.

On a separate matter…. recently the IMF was in Kinshasa assessing the DRC government’s economic program and discussing the extended credit facility as well as discussing the mining sector and sector reforms

Seems to me this may be the reason the govt didn’t want any bad press (via Twitter) on their minister’s and the corruption around Cominiere, CKK, Zijin and Cong

Hopefully someone here or on Twitter may use this information to help our cause in the DRC…. Seems the majority of shareholders who look at tse sit back and just allow others to try and support our cause

 

[CHB]

On a separate matter…. recently the IMF was in Kinshasa assessing the DRC government’s economic program and discussing the extended credit facility as well as discussing the mining sector and se

Seems to me this may be the reason the govt didn’t want any bad press (via Twitter) on their minister’s and the corruption around Cominiere, CKK, Zijin and Cong

If that's true then pretty fked.

Reminds me of the period between I think November and February where it was quiet and everyone thought that the final negotiations were occurring, especially with some bad actors being jailed/interviewed. Then we got hit with the ministerial decree being cancelled and mgmt knowing nothing and being exposed that not much was indeed going on.

Hoping not the same situation here and that discussions are actually happening.

 

[Misfits]

One of the shareholders in a group I keep in touch with privately sent us this today

I haven’t looked into JC Muyambo but my opinion is it’s time for our shareholders on Twitter to contact him and offer him support and information on our situation….

During a press briefing held this Friday in Lubumbashi, capital of Haut-Katanga province, the president of the Congolese Solidarity for Democracy (SCODE) political party expressed his sadness following the regression of the situation. sociopolitics in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC).

According to him, Felix Tshisekedi failed to do better than his predecessor, Kabila

JC Muyambo: “We had a lot of hope that F. Tshisekedi would change things but in 4 years, he is worse than Kabila”

Even the periods of Mobutu, Mzée Kabila and Kabila the son, we have never known such a dear life. Kabila has become even well,” he said.

And to add, during the next elections, the objective is to remove Felix Tshisekedi from power.

“We have a single objective to ensure that in December 2023, Félix Tshisekedi must be erased and that he leaves power”

But we too have estimated that by then, we will keep you informed of the electoral platform so that we get together with other candidates to oust Mr. Tshisekedi from power,” he said.

On a separate matter…. recently the IMF was in Kinshasa assessing the DRC government’s economic program and discussing the extended credit facility as well as discussing the mining sector and sector reforms

Seems to me this may be the reason the govt didn’t want any bad press (via Twitter) on their minister’s and the corruption around Cominiere, CKK, Zijin and Cong

Hopefully someone here or on Twitter may use this information to help our cause in the DRC…. Seems the majority of shareholders who look at tse sit back and just allow others to try and support our cause

Hey MB, do you want this posted on Twitter?

 

[MoneyBags1348]

@Misfits

It wouldn’t hurt if the info was posted there in a respectful way

I’ve found lots of information on DRC mining law but eventually it gets lost in the pile so don’t know if it’s in this link (below) or not but I read somewhere that Tshisekedi has the overall authority to order the granting of our ML, so the fact he won’t speaks about his position.

Everything else I read points to the fact that since he realised how much this project is worth (thanks to our DFS, further drill results and CATH offer) he now wants more ownership and control through Cominiere.

Don’t know why more attention hasn’t been drawn to the fact that CATH offered us $240 million for 24% and Zijin offered Cominiere $33 million for 15%

Their fucken greed is regurgitating after the fact that AVZ spent all the money and did all the work to prove Manono would be successful.

I definitely think it should be on twitter and we should support JC Muyambo, it’s just that it has to be done factually and respectfully…. and respectfully is starting to get a bit fucken hard for me to do

Spotlight: Mining law in Democratic Republic of the Congo

Mining represents a critical sector for the development of the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC). According to the World Bank, the mining sector…

www.lexology.com

 

[Xerof]

@MoneyBags1348

Whilst I tend to agree with your statement regarding FT's lack of action, and alternative plans etc, unless I got instruction/recommendation from someone directly involved at the highest level of AVZ (haha, the irony), IMO, this isn't the time to start attacking FT.

If I were to give a start date for attacking him and his ministers, it would be in 6 weeks from now.....don't ask......

sorry to sound like a deBoss statement, lol

 

[Misfits]

Done respectfully






https://twitter.com/kempy68/status/1650325763860881409?s=20