AVZ Discussion 2022

[Flexi]

A person who is very active on the bird supporting AVZ.
As I respect their work on the bird i will respect their privacy.

 

[Azzler]

Just received this private message on the Twitter

"I been told not helping us if we continue to attack the Govt Ministers and especially the President ... I been told could hamper their efforts in DRC next 4 weeks, timing is critical,
I suspect this includes CAMI DG Mupande as he is a v powerful man protected b wise not to attack hime either"

Not sure if i should take note as this has been asked many times before and still no outcome

I just feel the corrupt should be named and shamed ........specially after reading the AVZ announcement........ my gloves came off.

Look everyone is angry as fuck but I tend to agree with what's being said about keeping it respectful with DRC ministers.

Yes it SHOULD mean nothing, words on twitter! It is utterly pathetic that words on twitter might govern Policy in the DRC.

But it IS the DRC, they're entrenched in deep corruption, there's multiple factions all wanting more power and money.
They're extremerly sensitive, they're NOT sophisticated in the way the west has been for a long time now.

I expect laws to be followed too, but that's just not really how things happen.
It's fucked as fucked can be!

But what if we really are causing setbacks by calling them all a pack of lying corrupt cunts?

I think CKK is fair game, and Zijin too.

And when it comes to ministers, you can still state that the IGF finds the MoP acted unlawfully.
You can still do it respectfully.
Even the Congolese are shaking their heads at us, saying we don't understand DRC.

 

[Flexi]

My response was

"I have heard this many times before .... next 2 weeks, next month, soon, etc. and nothing happens. I dont believe i am attacking the president but asking the questions. As to the Ministers.... yes



. They have been identified by the IGF as corrupt. So i am sharing the facts. I am heavily invested in AVZ....all in. I have been suffering financially for 11 months living on borrowed money from family and friends. I feel these crooks need to be shamed."

 

[Samus]

Just received this private message on the Twitter

"I been told not helping us if we continue to attack the Govt Ministers and especially the President ... I been told could hamper their efforts in DRC next 4 weeks, timing is critical,
I suspect this includes CAMI DG Mupande as he is a v powerful man protected b wise not to attack hime either"

Not sure if i should take note as this has been asked many times before and still no outcome

I just feel the corrupt should be named and shamed ........specially after reading the AVZ announcement........ my gloves came off.

Yes we mustn't upset the delicate morons and criminals over there, they're very sensitive!

 

[Onthefm]

Just received this private message on the Twitter

"I been told not helping us if we continue to attack the Govt Ministers and especially the President ... I been told could hamper their efforts in DRC next 4 weeks, timing is critical,
I suspect this includes CAMI DG Mupande as he is a v powerful man protected b wise not to attack hime either"

Not sure if i should take note as this has been asked many times before and still no outcome

I just feel the corrupt should be named and shamed ........specially after reading the AVZ announcement........ my gloves came off.

Mate in my experience working in under developed countries a lot of my life one thing they all have in common is that even the general populace are very thin skinned. And the elites are extraordinarily thin skinned. And don't cop criticism at all well .So I'd take him at his word. But that's just imo. Cheers. Hopefully he's right that something is actually happening. But I doubt it.

 

[Flexi]

 

[Carlos Danger]

"I been told not helping us if we continue to attack the Govt Ministers and especially the President ... I been told could hamper their efforts in DRC next 4 weeks, timing is critical,
I suspect this includes CAMI DG Mupande as he is a v powerful man protected b wise not to attack hime either"

Fuck Mupande. All that corruption and he can still only afford an ugly sugar baby.

 

[wombat74]

Just received this private message on the Twitter

"I been told not helping us if we continue to attack the Govt Ministers and especially the President ... I been told could hamper their efforts in DRC next 4 weeks, timing is critical,
I suspect this includes CAMI DG Mupande as he is a v powerful man protected b wise not to attack hime either"

Not sure if i should take note as this has been asked many times before and still no outcome

I just feel the corrupt should be named and shamed ........specially after reading the AVZ announcement........ my gloves came off.

In other news today . Avz has been stripped of the World's Largest Lithium Project and ejected from the DRC on account of Johnny Blow Hard and Mates consistently making derogatory remarks on social media concerning that countries President and his corrupt Ministers. AVZ Minerals were set to be potentially the largest lithium producer on the planet until Johnny Blow Hard and his mates from outer Western Sydney completely fucked it up ......................

 

[Xerof]

Well, we have a Carmelite Monastery within driving distance of my place, so Jen, I’m moving in for 6 weeks and will shut the fuck up for that period, like the good nun that I am.

The vows of poverty, chastity and obedience shall be honoured in full. I shall remain silent, and only sing (Pink Floyd songs) and pray (for all of us)

Nigel, just make sure you honour your side of the deal, and deliver me from poverty at a minimum within the next 6 weeks

Couldn’t give a fuck about chastity and obedience

10 HM’s

ps, anyone else wanting in will need a brown paper bag, unmarked $100’s

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Look everyone is angry as fuck but I tend to agree with what's being said about keeping it respectful with DRC ministers.

Yes it SHOULD mean nothing, words on twitter! It is utterly pathetic that words on twitter might govern Policy in the DRC.

But it IS the DRC, they're entrenched in deep corruption, there's multiple factions all wanting more power and money.
They're extremerly sensitive, they're NOT sophisticated in the way the west has been for a long time now.

I expect laws to be followed too, but that's just not really how things happen.
It's fucked as fucked can be!

But what if we really are causing setbacks by calling them all a pack of lying corrupt cunts?

I think CKK is fair game, and Zijin too.

And when it comes to ministers, you can still state that the IGF finds the MoP acted unlawfully.
You can still do it respectfully.
Even the Congolese are shaking their heads at us, saying we don't understand DRC.

Az and @Flexi

I appreciate the call to lay off the politicians comes from a very loyal AVZ holder who keeps in touch with the company and is trying to help

More importantly, Mupande is protected, he is corrupt and no doubt as the head of CAMI he has powerful corrupt allies, and has done deals with billionaires the likes of Simon Cong and Dan Gertler.

Mupande was affiliated with Spintelligent who are now THE VUKA GROUP who are promoting the DRC MINING WEEK in June

If Mupande is powerful and protected I don’t see any reason why we shouldn’t target him and the MINING WEEK which is not only organised by THE VUKA GROUP, it is heavily sponsored by Zijin.

I started a thread and will be trying to get something worked out with TITS and a few others before the event

DRC MINING WEEK 2023

Here is the agenda of DRC Mining Week 2023 scheduled for June 14 to 16 in Lubumbashi As announced, DRC Mining Week opens its doors from June 14 to 16, 2023 at Karavia Hotel in Lubumbashi in the province of Haut-Katanga in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC). The day of June 14, 2023 is...

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[Winenut]

Well, we have a Carmelite Monastery within driving distance of my place, so Jen, I’m moving in for 6 weeks and will shut the fuck up for that period, like the good nun that I am.

The vows of poverty, chastity and obedience shall be honoured in full. I shall remain silent, and only sing (Pink Floyd songs) and pray (for all of us)

Nigel, just make sure you honour your side of the deal, and deliver me from poverty at a minimum within the next 6 weeks

Couldn’t give a fuck about chastity and obedience

10 HM’s

ps, anyone else wanting in will need a brown paper bag, unmarked $100’s

Great back story @Xerof

But we know you're goin' in for rehab buddy

 

[The Fox]

Mate in my experience working in under developed countries a lot of my life one thing they all have in common is that even the general populace are very thin skinned. And the elites are extraordinarily thin skinned. And don't cop criticism at all well .So I'd take him at his word. But that's just imo. Cheers. Hopefully he's right that something is actually happening. But I doubt it.

I’ve toned things down in recent weeks just in case Jens and friends are correct. These requests to be respectful with communications of the Ministers and Felix, quite certain this request does come from Nigel. He said as much at the road show as well.

Up to the individuals here that play on Twitter whether they think their comments are helping (or not) when said comments are directed to the people holding AVZ hostage and the ones Nigel and friends are trying to sort things out with.

I’ve worked in Africa and in the same type of environment just a couple of countries away from the DRC and I can confirm the God complex runs deep with Gov officials.

Anyway, if it’s not sorted in coming weeks let’s just take all the rotten kunts to the ICC and be done with it, then let the insults fly like never before for years.

Cheers The Fox

 

[Xerof]

Great back story @Xerof

But we know you're goin' in for rehab buddy

But I said no, no, no

@MoneyBags1348 a voice responded to my evening prayer, saying Mupande should be targeted, but not FT

Mysterious ways etc

10HM’s

 

[Chase]

These are the real people missing out

 

[Rediah]

Mate in my experience working in under developed countries a lot of my life one thing they all have in common is that even the general populace are very thin skinned. And the elites are extraordinarily thin skinned. And don't cop criticism at all well .So I'd take him at his word. But that's just imo. Cheers. Hopefully he's right that something is actually happening. But I doubt it.

I completely agree that these elites have never been challenged or held accountable in the past. They are often treated as if they are deities sent from above to solely benefit the people. However, when their true selves are revealed and their flaws are exposed on social media, which is followed by their supporters, they struggle to accept the truth and will go to great lengths to silence their critics.

Furthermore, with the upcoming election, it's possible that the opposition will use this information against them to gain votes. However, if not calling them out will benefit our cause, then so be it.

 

[cruiser51]

Well, we have a Carmelite Monastery within driving distance of my place, so Jen, I’m moving in for 6 weeks and will shut the fuck up for that period, like the good nun that I am.

The vows of poverty, chastity and obedience shall be honoured in full. I shall remain silent, and only sing (Pink Floyd songs) and pray (for all of us)

Nigel, just make sure you honour your side of the deal, and deliver me from poverty at a minimum within the next 6 weeks

Couldn’t give a fuck about chastity and obedience

10 HM’s

ps, anyone else wanting in will need a brown paper bag, unmarked $100’s

I only want in, if they brew something holy.

Do they brew Chartreuse?

If so, I don't give a shit if it is in New Zealand.

I'm will be on me way to do a bit of silent recovering from AVZ for 8 weeks, to come back rejuvenated.

If it is close to Rotorua, I might even take a mud bath to complete the cleansing.

 

[Samus]

1/4 #MANONO #LITHIUM To resolve the stalled situation, we propose to the Head of State, Félix #Tshisekesi with the exception of: - To create an ad hoc commission. - To nominate the head of ECOFIN for its presidency. - Participation of others
@Presidence_RDC
@YNdjoli

2/4 ministries linked to the project. - Involve $AVZ , COMINIERE, DATHOMIR, civil society, representatives of Tanganyika and customary chiefs of #Manono . OBJECTIVE : - Make Tabula Rasa of the management of COMINIERE, appointing new leaders (non-politicized).

3/4 - Discuss ongoing legal disputes. - Negotiate only with the legal components of DATHCOM, respecting the contract of the joint venture and international rules. - Decide on the sale of the 15% of the State to #ZIJIN and their recovery.

4/4 - Take back the 5% of the State from DATHOMIR. - Recover the 5% donated to MMCS. - Clarify the 15% AVZ/DATHOMIR conflict.

 

[David Krappenschitz]

Just received this private message on the Twitter

"I been told not helping us if we continue to attack the Govt Ministers and especially the President ... I been told could hamper their efforts in DRC next 4 weeks, timing is critical,
I suspect this includes CAMI DG Mupande as he is a v powerful man protected b wise not to attack hime either"

Not sure if i should take note as this has been asked many times before and still no outcome

I just feel the corrupt should be named and shamed ........specially after reading the AVZ announcement........ my gloves came off.

Given that Franck Fwamba shared the same sentiment as Jens and other shareholders on Twitter a couple weeks ago re attacking gov ministers (ie attacks hampering/not helping), I think there’s credence to this and SHs should lay off given we are apparently in crucial discussions atm. Imo

On another note, as have been observing this thread for a while, a couple weeks ago Nellie said something along the lines of ‘give it a couple weeks and we’ll know if we’re fucked or not’. Guessing that we were in negotiations with Cominiere which went sour hence the announcement yesterday. So.. are we fucked then? or have we got further negotiations happening?

Gltah

 

[9cardomaha]

May cooler heads prevail - i'm always open to laying off ministers in the DRC, we don't know whos in who's pocket or which minister is the sisters cousin's baby sitter's father in laws step-sons dogs best friend's owner.

On twitter, getting the simple message out that:

• Zijin are rat fuck snake eyed cunts with appauling human rights and governance track records and;
• AVZ have done it by the book, we are in it for the people of Manono

These are the ones that resonate most with me and i think with these messages we could sway the minister's constituents to apply pressure.

I've got a couple days off this week, going to dust off my photoshop and pitch in to help with some assets for the above (not that i don't love Jag's pump and dump of our sustainability report lol)

Happy for people to DM me for requests and provide suggestions for designs or wordings.

 

[Mr Inappropriate]

ARTICLE 19 CONTROL OF OPERATIONS

• 19.1 Each Party has an unlimited right to control and monitor all DATHCOM Mining SAS Operations. It is free to exercise it itself or through its internal auditors or experts, or to have it carried out by an external auditor or expert, it being understood that this right can only be exercised (1) after notice of 15 days addressed to DATHCOM Mining SAS and (i) may not affect the security and/or efficiency of the operations of DAT COM Mining SAS”

If the documents were withheld, it is possible that providing the documents could have been a security risk for Dathcom Mining SAS given the possibility of sensitive content being shared with our detractors.

See below:

Cominiere's termination of JVA is the key here (it is only the agreement, i jumped the gun yesterday thinking it was the entire JV).

The response by AVZ and disclosure stems from the December 2022 Cominiere letter which details AVZ's alleged breach of agreement from Cominiere view (previously posted on TSE).

Currently, I have confirmation that there is a set of correspondence out there whereby:

1. Cominiere writes to AVZ stating we 'need to talk' or 'show us X/Y' according to the December letter (this is part of the resolution of disputes article in the JVA). Cominiere would have also provided a 60-90 day timeframe for AVZ to respond. ​

2. AVZ submitted its response to Cominere and I believe there was a meeting held, based on my source.​

3. Cominiere deliberated on the contents of the meeting and finally sent another letter to AVZ stating that it was 'unhappy' with the response and enacted the termination clause of the JVA.​

4. AVZ, in its right according to the JVA then instigated the ICC case against Cominiere to void this termination because we've fucking done everything by the book.​

​

One thing i confirmed is that Cominiere does not have the authority to just terminate the JVA, so 3 would be considered a raise. In order to terminate the JVA Cominiere needs to officially submit its request to governing bodies (MOP/MOM) they need to approve and the decision needs to be ratified at local DRC court before anything official occurs.

AVZ's steps here to directly go to ICC has all but blocked Cominiere's ability to go and submit in the local legal framework, because ICC would supercede any rulings and approval of its request.

I am working on obtaining 1-3 to share with everyone, but the above is what i have been told. Take it or leave it and for the ZJ spies and tommy-twat tinglers on here i will take a leaf out of Jens playbook and say YOU'RE ALL FUCKED.

TLDR: Cominiere do not have the authority to cancel shit, AVZ raising the stakes straight to ICC fucks their process and CKKs scheme with ZJ will be a flop. We will just need to wait - i like the poker analogy, BOD just fucking pushed CKK and his limp dick hand all-in.

The research is appreciated @9cardomaha - good stuff.