AVZ Discussion 2022

John25

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Prove me wrong someone smarter than I, but surely there is material fact in Tommy’s takedown, surely the failure to inform shareholders about these ownership disputes when they happened is not only illegal according to ASX but arrogant on behalf of management. These attempts are not spirrilus media claims but in fact considered attempts to purchase our resource in a very real way that have now been taken to ICC by those making said claims. Management off to play golf with mates.
Im a bit like you RHyN …we have no leadership .Nigel at AGM stated he could do better with his communication (or lack of it) with SH’s & 5 months down track SFA .I feel they are worried about SH litigation further down the track if this turns into a pile of shit …hard to be confident with our anniversary only a matter of 3 weeks away …what type of BoD be such Kunts & put SH’s through this …..any T/O should be forwarded to SH’s for review
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Flight996

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The AFR article says that AVZ and Zijin are set for ICC consideration in Paris on April 23 over Zijin's 15 per cent stake in Dathmor that it purchased from Cominiere. The article also says that AVZ is applying to have the dispute thrown out on the basis the ICC has no jurisdiction to investigate the dispute.

I hope the board has a fall-back strategy because if the ICC determines that it has jurisdiction to hear the dispute, then the matter will proceed regardless of AVZ's view.

There is no place for moral high ground or hubris in this existential fight.

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Bray

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Im a bit like you RHyN …we have no leadership .Nigel at AGM stated he could do better with his communication (or lack of it) with SH’s & 5 months down track SFA .I feel they are worried about SH litigation further down the track if this turns into a pile of shit …hard to be confident with our anniversary only a matter of 3 weeks away …who would be a Kunt & put SH’s through that …any T/O should be forwarded to SH’s for review
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Looking forward to the 52 week mark, this experience has been an incredible and stressful learning experience for a young pup such as myself and will help weed out potential issues with investing for the next 30+ years of my life
 
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JasonM

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Our BOD is going to get the ML for us and we're going to go mining.

I'm trusting in nige and the bod to close the deal to see us move forward. I know we are all hurting in different ways in dealing with this situation but the negativity directed to mgmt isnt going to bring the ml home and is only good for our detractors. its clear that the DRC is a difficult operating environment with corruption running deep, not sure anyone else would have us in a better position. I'm supporting mgmt.
 
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Dijon101

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I've written off my investment... much easier mentally to do that.

Apart from that I do remain optimistic.
I believe AVZ is working with the Australian Embassy and other government agency's towards a resolution.
I believe the DRC is working with the UN anti corruption agency.
I believe we are in a battle with china for the worlds largest un-mined lithium resource. I never expected us to go to mine without a battle. We are in a dirty world of corporate battles.
I believe that the ICC will find in our favor.
I hope that our current suspension is due to us not wanting to divulge sensitive information to the market.
I believe that what we are seeing is a seismic shift in how business used to be done in the DRC towards how they want to do business.
I still believe that the world is watching and if the DRC want investment from the west, they will clean up this mess.
I hope that this will be the first major step for lasting change in the DRC that brings the people a brighter future.
 
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BRICK

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Whats the chance of us waking up one morning and the ASX just deciding we have to start trading again?
 
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John25

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Our BOD is going to get the ML for us and we're going to go mining.

I'm trusting in nige and the bod to close the deal to see us move forward. I know we are all hurting in different ways in dealing with this situation but the negativity directed to mgmt isnt going to bring the ml home and is only good for our detractors. its clear that the DRC is a difficult operating environment with corruption running deep, not sure anyone else would have us in a better position. I'm supporting mgmt.
Trusting in Nige who’s being doing business in the DRC for decades & didnt see this coming …oblivious to greed/corruption seeming with no contingency plan for a left field attack …clueless but highly paid so not completely stupid….will be back tomorrow to celebrate 49 weeks but therapy awaits …maybe we can send an invitation to BoD to celebrate online the big 50 with us :)
 
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Uglybob

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Whats the chance of us waking up one morning and the ASX just deciding we have to start trading again?
Probably bugger all. As said, they've done us a favour. The ASX needs to ensure everything is above board so investors don't get ripped off. They aren't letting this play out again until everyone knows what the hell is going on. I wouldn't be surprised if it came out the BOD purposely played it this way to get the ASX to suspend. Makes things easier for them and lets then get on with dealing with the circus in DRC rather than copy pasting the suspension extension request.
 
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Xerof

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Whats the chance of us waking up one morning and the ASX just deciding we have to start trading again?
None

The timing is now firmly in AVZ's control. They will now use this suspension (which no longer attracts enquiry from anyone) to get the ducks in line, then comply with 3.1 by releasing all this shit they are withholding under privilege
 
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BRICK

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The timing is now firmly in AVZ's control. They will now use this suspension (which no longer attracts enquiry from anyone) to get the ducks in line, then comply with 3.1 by releasing all this shit they are withholding under privilege
(y) roger that thanks
 
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wombat74

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Zijin up to something ? Let me guess they need to reschedule the ICC hearing due to a bunch of made up Bull Sh1t ? Kick the can down the road to chew up more time ? .......
 
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Xerof

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Zijin up to something ? Let me guess they need to reschedule the ICC hearing due to a bunch of made up Bull Sh1t ? Kick the can down the road to chew up more time ? ......... Or a TO offer ?

So, the only party who could have told Tommy about the delay is Zijin? AVZ certainly wouldn't have
 
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9cardomaha

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Zijin up to something ? Let me guess they need to reschedule the ICC hearing due to a bunch of made up Bull Sh1t ? Kick the can down the road to chew up more time ?


So i guess more gatekeeping needed, if you're on here tommy, you can also fuck off and die, the below was what i sent to myself yesterday and proceeded to share with those that reached out (minus users who either haven't been that active or haven't contributed positively to TSE).

However it seems the news is also out anyway, not that we didn't already suspect T-bag grater wank richardson was camping out here but this timing is also suspect.

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My thoughts on the matter are that the 1 and 3 arbitrator fight we originally had is starting to make sense. A delay at this point only fucking benefits ZJ and is as convenient as the growth on my gooch and was likely caused by all the fucking made in china shit i ingest.

My source tells me its July and its due to 'a conflicting schedule of the arbitrator'.
 
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cruiser51

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Zijin up to something ? Let me guess they need to reschedule the ICC hearing due to a bunch of made up Bull Sh1t ? Kick the can down the road to chew up more time ?
One would expect if Zijin is the claimant, they have all their ducks in a row.

Don't go to court to lodge a complaint and say a year later we are not ready yet.

But do we know if the case is delayed, because of Zijin, or simply they forgot to book a room.

Time will tell, if Zijin is delaying it will not work in their favour.

Zijin will try all possible, they don't want to appear in public, that is obvious.
Maybe they are hoping for a change of heart from the DRC in their favour, who knows, maybe they have inside info.
 
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ozmacca

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Clearly knows he'd get publicly taken to the cleaners. A "journo" that is happy to throw mud but can't any back. Scum-bucket

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wombat74

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So i guess more gatekeeping needed, if you're on here tommy, you can also fuck off and die, the below was what i sent to myself yesterday and proceeded to share with those that reached out (minus users who either haven't been that active or haven't contributed positively to TSE).

However it seems the news is also out anyway, not that we didn't already suspect T-bag grater wank richardson was camping out here but this timing is also suspect.

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My thoughts on the matter are that the 1 and 3 arbitrator fight we originally had is starting to make sense. A delay at this point only fucking benefits ZJ and is as convenient as the growth on my gooch and was likely caused by all the fucking made in china shit i ingest.

My source tells me its July and its due to 'a conflicting schedule of the arbitrator'.
It's just Chinese stall tactics imo .
 

9cardomaha

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One would expect if Zijin is the claimant, they have all their ducks in a row.

Don't go to court to lodge a complaint and say a year later we are not ready yet.

But do we know if the case is delayed, because of Zijin, or simply they forgot to book a room.

Time will tell, if Zijin is delaying it will not work in their favour.

Zijin will try all possible, they don't want to appear in public, that is obvious.
Maybe they are hoping for a change of heart from the DRC in their favour, who knows, maybe they have inside info.
Actually you'd be surprised.

Here's a little silver lining for holders which also came out during my recent sleuthing, our efforts and the IGF report which saw former Cominiere CEO (forgot the name) and then Technical officer CKK (now the CEO) fucked with ZJ's arbitration plan. Originally the former CEO was a key witness for the claimant, and a request for extension was submitted.

Also i'm going to start checking who i told yesterday and if i don't like the response i'mma out some cunts and we can report them to zeebot. because tommy catching this info after i shared on the DL is, well, a fucking pretty big coincidence.
 
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9cardomaha

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It's just Chinese stall tactics imo .
Yeah it definitely feels like it.

My initial thought was the arbitrator got an all expenses paid trip to China. But who would pay for such a thing, ZJ has such good business ethics as outlined on their website.:cautious:

Herp derp, 3 arbitrators definitely harder to brown paper bag imo.
 
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Flexi

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So i guess more gatekeeping needed, if you're on here tommy, you can also fuck off and die, the below was what i sent to myself yesterday and proceeded to share with those that reached out (minus users who either haven't been that active or haven't contributed positively to TSE).

However it seems the news is also out anyway, not that we didn't already suspect T-bag grater wank richardson was camping out here but this timing is also suspect.

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My thoughts on the matter are that the 1 and 3 arbitrator fight we originally had is starting to make sense. A delay at this point only fucking benefits ZJ and is as convenient as the growth on my gooch and was likely caused by all the fucking made in china shit i ingest.

My source tells me its July and its due to 'a conflicting schedule of the arbitrator'.
Thanks for the info 9card.

For FUCKS SAKE its been a year in waiting and now he finds out its a conflict in schedule !!!!
To me something is not right.
This was booked a year ago
I hope the cunts Zinjin have not got to him with brown paper bags.
 
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