AVZ Discussion 2022

I reckon that was bullshite and just stating 'higher mica', in order to try and get shareholders thinking that the north didn't really matter because it was full of impurities. The data provided from sampling in carrier back a few years ago now, was showing impressive figures and mica wasn't an issue
Those comments from Nigel made my blood boil. It was at that moment I knew shit was more serious than had been previously portrayed. I absolutely felt like I was being lied to.
 
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Just thinking out loud here.. Is Felix actually guilty of some shady back door decisions himself? Is that why there is no action from him?
Been banging on for months about FT questioning both his honesty and effectiveness.

At end of the day, all this shit is on his watch.
Much of what I ranted about went unremarked on TSE until recently. With a few notable exceptions.

Now you bar stewards are getting angry and really doing shit.

Feel the rage. Feel good?
Onya.

Keep it up.
 
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Tommy has Charterhouse syndrome. His dad wasn't rich enough to send him to Eton and it eats him up inside.
Would that make him a fag both in the British and the American sense?
 
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Mines versus infrastructure: after audit, the IGF exposes how China has fooled the DRC​

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The General Inspectorate of Finance (IGF) made public on Wednesday, February 15, 2023 its audit report on the implementation of the Chinese contract. The Supreme Review Body paints a bleak picture of the implementation of the infrastructure-for-minerals contract concluded between the Democratic Republic of the Congo and China in 2008.
This report comes after calls from civil society and Westerners calling for the contract to be revised. Although the Government has repeatedly expressed its intention to renegotiate this major contract, in practice nothing has yet changed.
Below, in 11 points the main conclusions of the General Inspectorate of Finance:
1. The constitution of SICOMINES in 2008 was carried out in violation of Article 1 of the Royal Decree of 22 June 1926. The share capital not proportionate to the purpose of the company and not indicating the mineral deposits as a contribution from the Congolese party. USD 100,000,000.00 set by the GEC (Chinese Group of Enterprises) was very insufficient and therefore disproportionate to the corporate purpose.
2. No evaluation of the mineral deposits contributed by GECAMINES S.A. has been made and therefore, failure to integrate the value into the share capital: while its minimum consistency was known and listed in Annex A of the Agreement of 22 April 2008 and Annex B of the Joint Venture Agreement of the same date: 10,616,070 t/cu and 629,619 t/co worth USD 90,936,120,000, at the rates on the day of conclusion of the agreement.
3. Arbitrary, discriminatory and illegal nature of the fixing and distribution of the share capital at USD 100,000,000.00 at the rate of 68% of the shares for the GEC and 32% for the Gécamines Group. This capital was set at USD 100,000,000.00 (while SICOMINES held assets of USD 90,936,120,000.00) and it was decided that Chinese companies would have 68% of the shares against 32% for the Congolese side. The Chinese contributed USD 68 million and lent GECAMINES S.A USD 32 million, which it repaid with interest of USD 10,979,566.00 through deductions on its dividends.
4. Significant financial imbalance to the detriment of the DRC between the advantages granted to the Chinese side and the commitments to be borne by it as well as the gains expected by the Congolese side: USD 90,936,120,000.00 to the Chinese against commitments borne by them of USD 6.2 billion, i.e. a gain for the Chinese of USD 84,736,120,000.00 to which must be added the tax and customs exemptions provisionally estimated at the lowest rates at USD 2,163,623,850.15. Even determining the net present value (NPV) based on the elements included in the 2021 Feasibility Study, the NPV is USD 76,573,723,516.28 which constitutes the gain in favor of the Chinese side because the NPV involves the deduction of CAPEX and OPEX from turnover. USD 76 billion gain for the Chinese side against 3 billion infrastructure for the DRC
5. In six years, from 2016 to October 2022, SICOMINES disbursed from one of its overseas accounts, in this case Main Account No. 100001700001077 housed in the books of BANK OF CHINA DUBAI BRANCH, a total amount of USD 9,677,613,625.15 to Chinese companies and itself for various unsubstantiated reasons. Illustrative cases of sales return for USD 1,564,280,538.68, contract payment for USD 1,506,989,864.14 and other debit transactions without giving reason for USD 3,827,943,282.32.
6. Lack of visibility and impact of the work carried out and its unjustified selectivity in violation of Annex C of the Convention of 22 April 2008. Eligible work performed: USD 534,902,461.66 Ineligible work performed: USD 287,287,598.42
7.Glaring weakness and modicity of infrastructure investments: SICOMINES has mobilized, in 14 years, financing totaling USD 4,471,588,685.14 and has allocated only USD 822,190,060.14 for the financing of infrastructure works, i.e. 18.38% of the total financing mobilized
8. Under the terms of the collaboration agreement and the joint venture agreement, the GEC was responsible for mobilizing resources for the financing of mining and infrastructure investments (USD 6.2 billion) for which SICOMINES was to be reimbursed. Instead, it was the SICOMINES Joint Venture that took on debt, to the tune of USD 3,341,948,821.85 to finance both mining and infrastructure investments. But at the same time, she paid herself, from 2016 to October 2022, USD 5,464,880,564.06 in her main account in DUBAI for the benefit of one or more other accounts not yet identified;
9. Failure to repatriate export earnings and fines of 5% due by SICOMINES: Following an erroneous interpretation of the contractual stipulations enshrining the freedom of transfer of funds, SICOMINES did not repatriate export earnings totalling USD 2,004,167,489.24 over the period from 2016 to October 2022. As such, it owes fines of 5%, i.e. USD 100,280,374.46
10. Imbroglio maintained in investment repayment periods This imbroglio was used to reduce the amount of infrastructure investment from USD 6.5 billion to USD 3.0 billion. Article 12 of the Convention provided that during the second period the total reimbursement should not exceed USD 3 billion in principal. It is curious. We probably wanted to delay the repayment and therefore the clearance of the DRC's debt vis-à-vis Chinese investors;
11. Irregular and unjustified payment of 4.8% of the amounts of the works under "Amount to be valued": For all works reported by the Congolese Agency for Major Works (ACGT), these costs amount to USD 37,256,434.59. The legality of such a levy and the destination given to the funds thus collected are problematic. It is therefore probably a way to remunerate oneself in a different way.
 
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Winenut

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Tommy's the one who needs training: How to create, rather than destroy. How to encourage & share wealth creation, while playing a key role in decarbonisation & saving the planet, rather than being a maligning, shorter loser. IMO DYOR. Br Sparrowhawk
He just needs to learn to be a fucking journalist...

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After having failed in his pressure and lobbying against @AvzMinerals with his compatriots Huayou and CATL in order to access Manono's lithium permit, Zijin thinks he has succeeded thanks to Cominiere, Minister of the Portfolio and other commissionaires. Only @fatshi13 will decide

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PR05 @fatshi13 @Presidence_RDC is requested to deliver the Dathcom License from the curse of Cominiere speculators.
@AvzMinerals is the 3rd partner after Global Tin, MMCS1. Global Tin had put lost millions there, MMCS1 unable to work there. Only AVZ develops.
@IgfRdc

Mining news magazine going off tap on the bird tonight!
 
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He just needs to learn to be a fucking journalist...

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Dear diary

Today was a good day.. I continued being a fabricating fuckwit hahaha.. god I’m good just ask me. AVZ.. mining.. pfft hahaha not while I’m around. Mum cooked me party pies today since I was such a fucking legend.
Hopefully fairy bread tomorrow.

Your true love.. Tommy
 
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Winenut

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Tommy , such an absolute flog ; one of the biggest plebs out there

Tommy's in the Star's high-roller Sovereign room as someone's handbag

A "journalist" (cough cough) at the AFR doesn't make the financial grade
 
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Tommy , such an absolute flog ; one of the biggest plebs out there
What sort of a smug, arrogant fuckwit carries on like that? Let alone posts it on twitter.
All expenses paid by Zijin I guess :unsure:
I hope Marius sues the ass off him followed by AVZ until his reputation is in tatters. Then he runs into @MoneyBags1348 on the street.
 
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Winenut

Go AVZ!
Tommy's in the Star's high-roller Sovereign room as someone's handbag

A "journalist" (cough cough) at the AFR doesn't make the financial grade

Unless they're seriously on the take and compromised and have a side gig with shorters and Boatman Capital and old mates from London and are willing to nod and wink and accept the odd brown bag here and there.........oh....oh......fuck!!
 
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Nigel doesn't consider the partition to be illegal according to his letter to the MoM. The overall point of his letter is that of the acquired rights and survival of the initial decrees because the new ones are illegal and based on political decisions rather than the law.

It would seem that Nigel shares the same suspicions of the DRC government's intent on this matter based on the reasoning in the new decrees that I raised here last weekend.

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Dickhead Tommy backing down.

"In the letter, Zijin said it would not request the return of a $US33.4 million ($48.7 million) payment it had made to Cominiere in 2021 for a 15 per cent interest in Manono if the government agreed to a new joint venture excluding AVZ."

Firstly, Zijin has not paid US$33 million, just US$6 million.

Secondly, requesting a refund means that Zijin admits that the 15% transfer was illegal. If it was legal, why even consider a refund?

Thirdly, if US$6 million or even US$33 million is all it takes to kick Zijin out of the picture, that's small change for the headache that it will save everyone from. Even AVZ can pay them on behalf of the DRC since we also have the US$50 million ATM facility.

DYOR IMO
 
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I would like to understand if the decree cancelling Dathcom's right to mine also cancels the relinquishment of the northern part of CDL.
In other words, when Nigel agreed to cede a portion of the northern tenement, was it conditional or unconditional?
To unconditionally cede and not caveat the agreement would seem amateurish.
Does anyone know if the change was caveated?

Thanks in advance
F
 
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"In the letter, Zijin said it would not request the return of a $US33.4 million ($48.7 million) payment it had made to Cominiere in 2021 for a 15 per cent interest in Manono if the government agreed to a new joint venture excluding AVZ."

Firstly, Zijin has not paid US$33 million, just US$6 million.

Secondly, requesting a refund means that Zijin admits that the 15% transfer was illegal. If it was legal, why even consider a refund?

Thirdly, if US$6 million or even US$33 million is all it takes to kick Zijin out of the picture, that's small change for the headache that it will save everyone from. Even AVZ can pay them on behalf of the DRC since we also have the US$50 million ATM facility.

DYOR IMO
50 to cong was even cheaper imo
 

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I would like to understand if the decree cancelling Dathcom's right to mine also cancels the relinquishment of the northern part of CDL.
In other words, when Nigel agreed to cede a portion of the northern tenement, was it conditional or unconditional?
To unconditionally cede and not caveat the agreement would seem amateurish.
Does anyone know if the change was caveated?

Thanks in advance
F
Great question. Must that high country air.
 
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I would like to understand if the decree cancelling Dathcom's right to mine also cancels the relinquishment of the northern part of CDL.
In other words, when Nigel agreed to cede a portion of the northern tenement, was it conditional or unconditional?
To unconditionally cede and not caveat the agreement would seem amateurish.
Does anyone know if the change was caveated?

Thanks in advance
F
I've asked that question, Apparently it's all come back to one complete tenement and sits under dathcom mining.....question from this point I suppose is that what does ‘;partial waiver ‘ mean....does this enable the decree to be reissued under the same conditions OR is it a full new decree where Nigel can say you don't catch me out a second time DG and takes it all as ML or south as ML and north as exploration with Dathcom not requiring to go through application process for exploration licence
 
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French version of Counter fixed now. Good for Twitter posts.

 
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