Carlos Danger
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Yet they still show up to defend themselves. Funny how that works.
Btw you mixed up your good cop bad cop profiles LMAO
AVZ Discussion 2022
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Btw you mixed up your good cop bad cop profiles LMAO
And I'm guessing you also mean this oneAnyone able to post the article from The Australian today on RIO’s meeting with Trump on critical minerals? and also maybe the one from the Daily Telegraph, which covers Australian mining executives beating Airbus Albo to first meeting with Trump.
Just to repeat RIO RIO RIO
Felix
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So many things go over Lenny's head that the RMS have declared it a main arterial road
And thats a cunt of a haircut he’s got too.
I’ve told him he needs to be more aligned with the Congolese cut, like mine, but he feels that might involve a Brazilian
I see he’s stuffed up his ying and yang replies to himself too, fuck he is such an unreliable employee, I might have to get CK to replace him here
Dave Evans
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M23-DR Congo peace talks in Doha stalled: What next?
Both sides accuse the other of violating the terms of an earlier deal mediated by Qatar.www.aljazeera.com
How has Qatar reacted?
Majed al-Ansari, a spokesperson of the Qatar foreign ministry, while speaking to journalists on Tuesday, said that although timelines had been missed, there was still hope for the peace deal.
“The good thing is that both sides are engaging very positively,” he said. “We are engaging with them closely, and we are committed to the process, and I think the parties have shown a level of willingness to agree that was not there before.”
The spokesperson did not, however, give a new date for the signing of a peace deal.
Earlier, on Monday, Qatari officials revealed that they had shared a draft of the final deal with both sides to review.
The whole article is worth a read @Bin59 and the linked video is also very informative. If shareholders don’t want to watch the whole video, you can skip to the 16min 45sec point where he talks about the USA and Trump.
The two main points I take away are how complex the conflict between the DRC, Rwanda and all the rebel groups involved is, and how desperate the USA are for the DRC’s minerals.
My own opinion is, as much as I would like the money for my shares now, the slower route through arbitration has a number of advantages. The most obvious being our legal position according to the international laws of the ICC and ICSID (World Bank), the USA’s increasing desperation for the DRC’s critical minerals and the increasing rise in lithium prices to name a few.
I also think with the DRC Battery Metals Forum coming up in September, it’s a good time to stick it to the corrupt actors in the DRC who have worked against us from the beginning and continue to do so. That in particular being Celestin Kibeya, Cominiere and CAMI.
Here’s the link to the Vuka Group who sponsor the forum which I note has Cominiere as its Cobalt Sponsor (something AVZ was a year or two ago) and lists Kibeya as an influential speaker at the event
Battery Metals Forum
Join industry leaders at the DBM to drive growth and innovation in Africa's battery metals industry. Register now for 2025!
wearevuka.com
Some people may suggest Nigel might not want shareholders posting abusive comments on the corrupt actors involved.
He of course is taking a respectful and legal approach to the corruption against us and I’m sure shareholders exposing the corrupt actors through facts and evidence (not abuse) will not only support our case, it will keep a spotlight on the corrupt actors involved.
I have a lot of people here on ignore so I don’t see what they post unless I log onto TSE without signing in and when I read their bullshit it makes me glad we have another place to share information.
Now back to you @Winenut @Xerof @Remark @Slipperysucker and other genuine shareholders
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KentCStrait
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I hold just under a million shares. I have no doubt that if AVZ pursued ICSID to the end, we would win—and win big. In fact, I think AVZ has been far too conservative in the damages it’s seeking. That said, I don’t believe the DRC would ever respect the ruling or pay what’s owed.
If you disagree—if you’re convinced ICSID is the path to riches—I’m open to selling. Make me an offer for my shares. If you’re right, you’ll have the chance to turn that belief into a significant profit.
Winenut
GO AVZ!!!!
I’ll match Carrotdick’s offer…1c
Winenut
GO AVZ!!!!
cruiser51
Top 20
It is how the Felix mafia operates.
M23 stops because of Doha agreements, Felix and cohorts feels safe and business to normal mode ripping the system off.
Don't forget Felix did exactly the same with AVZ.
All M23 has to do is move 10 km closer to Kinshasa and Felix will be back in Washington on his knees trying to suck Trump's tiny weenie dick.
A few points of interest which I'm curious of other's opinions on. Apologies if these have been pointedly discussed, there's a lot to sift through to find information. To be clear, I have no agenda (I only have about 200,000 shares) and I'm just trying to fill in gaps in my understanding of the situation, paths forward, and potential outcomes.
1. I've seen talk of a potential class action lawsuit moving forward should a sale of AVZ be below the ATH share price. Is there any legal basis for this? If the company's sole asset is sold and funds distributed to shareholders, then litigation would be aimed at management for some kind of dereliction of responsibilities? If there are any shareholders here who bought in at a high price, is this a path you would pursue (I bought in early so I'm not interested in going this route)? Considering the unfathomable trials and tribulations that AVZ has been through over the past several years, would there really be any chance of winning?
2. Amongst the exhaustive talk regarding a buyout price, some believe AVZ should stick to arbitration should an offer be "too low". If that were the case, do you guys/gals believe that we would actually see any return on our investments regardless of time frame? Thus far the DRC have ignored court rulings and it doesn't seem there have been any significant consequences yet. I'm aware of the longer reach of the ICSID, however, could the DRC simply work with China and, financially at least, come out in a similar or better situation?
3. Some feel that the deposit will be stranded should we continue arbitration and this is leverage for a higher buyout price. Based on what has happened to the northern tenement, what recourse would we have if the same thing happened in the south and the DRC did nothing about it?
4. Again regarding the continued arbitration option, I've seen threats that should the AVZ case move forward, that corrupt actors in the DRC will be exposed. However, it sure seems that corruption is blatantly and shamefully obvious to the point of hilarity so this doesn't really seem like a convincing argument. Am I missing something?
TIA and here's hoping for a swift and rewarding resolution very soon!
1. I've seen talk of a potential class action lawsuit moving forward should a sale of AVZ be below the ATH share price. Is there any legal basis for this? If the company's sole asset is sold and funds distributed to shareholders, then litigation would be aimed at management for some kind of dereliction of responsibilities? If there are any shareholders here who bought in at a high price, is this a path you would pursue (I bought in early so I'm not interested in going this route)? Considering the unfathomable trials and tribulations that AVZ has been through over the past several years, would there really be any chance of winning?
2. Amongst the exhaustive talk regarding a buyout price, some believe AVZ should stick to arbitration should an offer be "too low". If that were the case, do you guys/gals believe that we would actually see any return on our investments regardless of time frame? Thus far the DRC have ignored court rulings and it doesn't seem there have been any significant consequences yet. I'm aware of the longer reach of the ICSID, however, could the DRC simply work with China and, financially at least, come out in a similar or better situation?
3. Some feel that the deposit will be stranded should we continue arbitration and this is leverage for a higher buyout price. Based on what has happened to the northern tenement, what recourse would we have if the same thing happened in the south and the DRC did nothing about it?
4. Again regarding the continued arbitration option, I've seen threats that should the AVZ case move forward, that corrupt actors in the DRC will be exposed. However, it sure seems that corruption is blatantly and shamefully obvious to the point of hilarity so this doesn't really seem like a convincing argument. Am I missing something?
TIA and here's hoping for a swift and rewarding resolution very soon!
KentCStrait
Regular
This is a realistic worry. Doesn't matter if there is a legal basis for it. One of our resident dickheads like Shane or Lenny stirs up a few people, organises a class action and our funds are going to be held up and drained by lawyers.
I believe should we see out ICSID we will win and win a big time settlement. I also believe we will never ever see a cent of that settlement. I think it's incredibly naive to think ICSID is our way out of this.
I think it is fantasy to think the deposit will be stranded should we continue arbitration. The DRC has clearly shown it does not respect contract law, ICC, or ICSID. I predict no matter what happens to us, someone will be well underway to mining it by this time next year.
I think certain shareholders are overly emotional given everything we've been through and looking for vengeance. And I certainly understand that. But I really don't care. It's not my fight. I just want my money so I can move on with my life.
Not about winning the ARBITRATION matters is getting paid...!
Surely you UNDERSTAND what is really going on...!...imo
ENFORCEMENT is a good word...!
Nigel should have taken some big action, and removed MR G J of the board...imo
True words from a TRUE AVZ SH ...imo
I think certain shareholders are overly emotional given everything we've been through and looking for vengeance. And I certainly understand that. But I really don't care. It's not my fight. I just want my money so I can move on with my life.
Surely you UNDERSTAND what is really going on...!...imo
ENFORCEMENT is a good word...!
Nigel should have taken some big action, and removed MR G J of the board...imo
True words from a TRUE AVZ SH ...imo
I think certain shareholders are overly emotional given everything we've been through and looking for vengeance. And I certainly understand that. But I really don't care. It's not my fight. I just want my money so I can move on with my life.
Carlos Danger
Top 20
The lesson of the pied piper you dumb fuck is to always pay people what they’re owed
If you invite someone into your town to do a job. Whether that be to clear a rodent problem or to define a resource. Then they need to get paid.
Otherwise they will get retribution one way or another imo
What a load of shit. Why aren't they mining it now if the don't care about ICSID. It has been measured and proven for 4 years.
200,000 shares at the last trade share price is $156K
Even at 1c it's $2K.
At 10c it's $20K
I can't believe anyone would be that ill informed with that amount of cash on the line.
KentCStrait
Regular
They’re not mining it today because you don’t just roll up and start digging — you need infrastructure, financing, and logistics in place. That takes time. But the fact remains: KoBold has already signed an agreement with the DRC that clearly expresses their intent to mine the site. That alone shows how little the DRC cares about ICSID.
And just to be clear — even Zijin hasn’t started production in the north yet. They’re not slated to produce until 2026.
I stand by what I wrote: no matter what happens to us, by this time next year someone will be well underway to mining it. We’ve done all the planning for them — they just have to stroll in and start building.
Or hey, maybe you’re right and I’m talking shit. The DRC is a beacon of the rule of law, contracts are sacred, corruption doesn’t exist — and ICSID is the golden ticket that saves us all.
cruiser51
Top 20
Before talking about the Omnibridge class action, I would start with investigating what that class action is all about.
You could be wasting tour time.
I am just being kind here.
Taking in account your first posts on here where you wrote, you have held your shares for about 5 years, one can assume you paid between 5 and 10 cents for your shares.
So would you like to take the BOD to court if they sell let's say for 20 cents, or even worse for 10 cents?
Btw, I hope you worked out getting the shares registered in your own name, so you can receive your money when AVZ monetises its Manono Lithium and Tin discovery.
Xerof
Flaming 1967
Yes, you’re talking shit
Kobold do not get it unless AVZ gets fair compensation. Otherwise ICSID for them too
I think AVZ would love DRC to sell it again, ideally to someone with decent assets at hand, and being a signatory to ICSID.
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