AVZ Discussion 2022

Rediah

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What happened to Radiah’s post? Was the numbers too confronting for some?

I can see it at my end , not sure what happened
But if they have reported it, then thats even better, it means it’s hurting them.


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If they block one account I will open 10 more, I can do that all day..


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So remember when Tommy wrote in his little article that he informed AVZ on the weekend of the 5th-6th Feb of the decrees? Well as you can see, this letter referencing the decrees was dated 3rd of February. Writing this letter probably was mostly over the course of a few days and after advice from in country.

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April 25th 2022 - MoM issues initial PE decree

May 4th 2022 - AVZ announces initial PE decree

Exactly 9 days later

January 28th 2023 - MoM issues new decrees

February 6th 2023 - AVZ announces new decrees

Exactly 9 days later

There's a very good reason for this that Tommy was either too fucking stupid to figure out or he deliberately decided not to include to jazz up the NoN dIsClOsUrE angle he's been pushing.
 
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Hudnut

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So remember when Tommy wrote in his little article that he informed AVZ on the weekend of the 5th-6th Feb of the decrees? Well as you can see, this letter referencing the decrees was dated 3rd of February. Writing this letter probably was mostly over the course of a few days and after advice from in country.


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That's what I said when people picked up Tommy's vibe on the crapper.
"Why not clarify it the same day as the AVZ article?"

To provide time to provide an informed and considered response.

If I responded straight away to most correspondence to do with this shitshow before taking some time, I'd have "The Mantle" in very short order.
 
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Biggest red flag for that seek post is that it’s not a permanent role initially. Nigel hedging his bets this may be wrapped up in 6 months?
Might be permanent if they move with him to AJN when he takes a seat on BoD
 
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9cardomaha

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Hi Mate, any chance we can get the letter Dathcom sent for the waiver of northern section?
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8196 (original Dathcom request to relinquish the north) is proving to be a very hard and elusive document to get my hands on. I have my theories as to why this one hasn't surfaced but will hold off on sharing my thoughts, until i can get a hold of the original Dathcom application.
 
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8196 (original Dathcom request to relinquish the north) is proving to be a very hard and elusive document to get my hands on. I have my theories as to why this one hasn't surfaced but will hold off on sharing my thoughts, until i can get a hold of the original Dathcom application.
Is 30 minutes long enough for you to hold off sharing your theories?

We wait in anticipation and appreciate your document gathering wherever you dig them up.
 
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Spikerama

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Here's a French version and I updated the English as well.

They are a bit janky so play around with browser size with plus and minus.


 
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9cardomaha

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April 25th 2022 - MoM issues initial PE decree

May 4th 2022 - AVZ announces initial PE decree

Exactly 9 days later

January 28th 2023 - MoM issues new decrees

February 6th 2023 - AVZ announces new decrees

Exactly 9 days later

There's a very good reason for this that Tommy was either too fucking stupid to figure out or he deliberately decided not to include to jazz up the NoN dIsClOsUrE angle he's been pushing.

Glad to see the documents being requested and shared are helping others piece things together clearly - i came to a similar conclusion like the above. Sick of Tommy's bulls**t and distortions honestly; what was his comment about Croatia at the world cup? HFSP? Lel what a f***wit.

Though i'm sure no one needed reminding or had any doubt that Tommy's a f***ing twat.

i conclude by saying that Tommy's a fuckhead.

mini-rant over.
 
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Charbella

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View attachment 29783

8196 (original Dathcom request to relinquish the north) is proving to be a very hard and elusive document to get my hands on. I have my theories as to why this one hasn't surfaced but will hold off on sharing my thoughts, until i can get a hold of the original Dathcom application.
Appreciate your feedback. This will be one interesting document to review.
 
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Glad to see the documents being requested and shared are helping others piece things together clearly - i came to a similar conclusion like the above. Sick of Tommy's bulls**t and distortions honestly; what was his comment about Croatia at the world cup? HFSP? Lel what a f***wit.

Though i'm sure no one needed reminding or had any doubt that Tommy's a f***ing twat.

i conclude by saying that Tommy's a fuckhead.

mini-rant over.
Dude you are like the Bellingcat of AVZ.
 
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Welp there goes my investment. Any strip clubs wanting a short statured, asian male. Will offer scrotum dragging services
 
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Glad to see the documents being requested and shared are helping others piece things together clearly - i came to a similar conclusion like the above. Sick of Tommy's bulls**t and distortions honestly; what was his comment about Croatia at the world cup? HFSP? Lel what a f***wit.

Though i'm sure no one needed reminding or had any doubt that Tommy's a f***ing twat.

i conclude by saying that Tommy's a fuckhead.

mini-rant over.
that is true stephen colbert GIF by Obama
 
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Samus

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The Chinese will earn $76BILLION while the DRC will only collect $3billion. In 6 years, the Chinese are already at $9 billion, the DRC $822 million. By corruption, they sold the country, destroyed the army, stupefied the people: A TRUE SABOTAGE.
 
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tonster66

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I believe we need to take a wider more strategic look at things. If Felix or AVZ implemented every one of the suggestions on these forums we would have been screwed long ago.
One of the precepts of 'The Art of War" is to know when to fight and when not to fight. Lets face it we have been in a mining war with china and corrupt officials for some time.

If we look back, we have the IGF report it identifies the corrupt actions of the MoP and cominiere. There were and are stills calls to remove her. If Felix was to remove her then all the crooks would have gone to ground without a resolution. It seemed that Felix continued to support the MoP. This being said we did not know where the MoM sat in terms of her support. She has now come out and it has been identified that she is corrupt and is acting illegally.
Felix can now complete the ministerial reshuffle as he can now remove 2 corrupt ministers. It has really been a well crafted battle. AVZ and the DRC will win and through this entire process the chinese have, in front of the world, been shown to be totally corrupt and have shown the inner workings of their operation.

"To know when to fight and when not to fight"

We have called Felix out for not doing what we wanted him to do and same with AVZ. Both of these actors have chosen not to fight for a time. I believe with the release of the letter from NF exposing the MoM's corruption is their time to fight. One shot fired but it has cut of the head of the snake.
Felix can now move, he can start his fight, a fight for his country and his people. He always said he was going to rid the DRC of corruption. I believe this has been a master stoke by Felix, the US, and AVZ. The US are masters at this type of thing.
Felix also said, 'Show me corruption in my ministers and they will no longer be in my government". He has pre-warned them but they still continued to act and we now have the evidence that the MoM is corrupt along with the MoP and many others.
Bring on the reshuffle.
AVZ and the DRC win.
 
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wombat74

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I believe we need to take a wider more strategic look at things. If Felix or AVZ implemented every one of the suggestions on these forums we would have been screwed long ago.
One of the precepts of 'The Art of War" is to know when to fight and when not to fight. Lets face it we have been in a mining war with china and corrupt officials for some time.

If we look back, we have the IGF report it identifies the corrupt actions of the MoP and cominiere. There were and are stills calls to remove her. If Felix was to remove her then all the crooks would have gone to ground without a resolution. It seemed that Felix continued to support the MoP. This being said we did not know where the MoM sat in terms of her support. She has now come out and it has been identified that she is corrupt and is acting illegally.
Felix can now complete the ministerial reshuffle as he can now remove 2 corrupt ministers. It has really been a well crafted battle. AVZ and the DRC will win and through this entire process the chinese have, in front of the world, been shown to be totally corrupt and have shown the inner workings of their operation.

"To know when to fight and when not to fight"

We have called Felix out for not doing what we wanted him to do and same with AVZ. Both of these actors have chosen not to fight for a time. I believe with the release of the letter from NF exposing the MoM's corruption is their time to fight. One shot fired but it has cut of the head of the snake.
Felix can now move, he can start his fight, a fight for his country and his people. He always said he was going to rid the DRC of corruption. I believe this has been a master stoke by Felix, the US, and AVZ. The US are masters at this type of thing.
Felix also said, 'Show me corruption in my ministers and they will no longer be in my government". He has pre-warned them but they still continued to act and we now have the evidence that the MoM is corrupt along with the MoP and many others.
Bring on the reshuffle.
AVZ and the DRC win.
If Felix was going to do something he would have done it by now. At this point no one including Nigel knows what are the MoM intentions . He is obviously very concerned as he said , 'We feel like we are the 'VICTIM' of a political decision whose real etherious motivations we do not know.' The word , victim, does not ooze with confidence .
 
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Li-AusPol

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I believe we need to take a wider more strategic look at things. If Felix or AVZ implemented every one of the suggestions on these forums we would have been screwed long ago.
One of the precepts of 'The Art of War" is to know when to fight and when not to fight. Lets face it we have been in a mining war with china and corrupt officials for some time.

If we look back, we have the IGF report it identifies the corrupt actions of the MoP and cominiere. There were and are stills calls to remove her. If Felix was to remove her then all the crooks would have gone to ground without a resolution. It seemed that Felix continued to support the MoP. This being said we did not know where the MoM sat in terms of her support. She has now come out and it has been identified that she is corrupt and is acting illegally.
Felix can now complete the ministerial reshuffle as he can now remove 2 corrupt ministers. It has really been a well crafted battle. AVZ and the DRC will win and through this entire process the chinese have, in front of the world, been shown to be totally corrupt and have shown the inner workings of their operation.

"To know when to fight and when not to fight"

We have called Felix out for not doing what we wanted him to do and same with AVZ. Both of these actors have chosen not to fight for a time. I believe with the release of the letter from NF exposing the MoM's corruption is their time to fight. One shot fired but it has cut of the head of the snake.
Felix can now move, he can start his fight, a fight for his country and his people. He always said he was going to rid the DRC of corruption. I believe this has been a master stoke by Felix, the US, and AVZ. The US are masters at this type of thing.
Felix also said, 'Show me corruption in my ministers and they will no longer be in my government". He has pre-warned them but they still continued to act and we now have the evidence that the MoM is corrupt along with the MoP and many others.
Bring on the reshuffle.
AVZ and the DRC win.
I love the theory behind ‘The Art of War’!

I wish Felix is using this play book as you say.

BUT 9 mths into suspension and the 2-3yrs before -

I’m sorry to say I have never witnessed one action that Felix has delivered in support of AVZ

It has been all generalised talk with no direct support of AVZ in their fight against any of these corrupt ministers, corrupt Kunts like cong, Zijin, mupande

The question is why???

Followed by ….why would Felix start now if never before???

Especially as it’s election year and IMO he doesn’t want to rock the boat to lose votes

So I can’t see the status quo changing!

Wish I had concrete evidence of Felix doing anything in this regard

MOST importantly more than anyone I wish I’m wrong!!!!!

Show me something Felix!

Do what’s right for your people and your country FFS!!!
 
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It has been almost a month since the President of the Republic, Félix Antoine Tshisekedi Tshilombo announced a government reshuffle. Psychosis in the Sama team, uncertainty of renewal, expectation that has become elastic for those who are waiting for their entry,… this is the attitude displayed by some (Ministers in office) and others (Members of the Sacred Union).

A question remains, what is blocking? For some sources close to the Presidency of the Republic, everything is already ready, but the publication depends on the personal will of the Head of State.

This desire that no one has mastered to date is becoming very long because even the spokesperson for the Head of State was unable, in clear terms, to state the date and time of this publication.

On the antennas of the radio Top Congo, Tina Salama spoke of the imminence of the publication of the team Sama Lukonde 2 but insists on the respect of the discretionary power of the president of the Republic.

"I don't know when that will happen, it's the discretionary power of the Head of State..., but it's imminent," assured the spokesperson for the President of the Republic, guest of Le Débat Magazine on TOP CONGO FM.

According to another collaborator of the Head of State, everything is on the table of the President of the Republic.

The new structure, the reduced number of ministries, the names of those who will be reappointed and even those who will leave the government, everything has been tabled.

“At this point, I can say that we don't know the date or the time. But this publication can intervene at any time because nothing is blocked to my knowledge. It is the chief who decides and he will decide when he wants”, says our source who affirms that for Félix Tshisekedi, there is no hurry.

Remember that the Sama 2 team will only have a few months to work given that after the general elections in December, a new government team will be put in place taking into account the parliamentary majority.
 
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