AVZ Discussion 2022

ozmacca

Regular
Thats not Graeme. But the 'assurances' MoM gives better be more than lip service...the mining world is watching!

View attachment 29124
Surely only a matter of time before potential investors start using AVZ as a case study in response when she says that (we can only hope)
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 users

Xerof

Have a Cigar 1975
0871BCF2-124A-410F-B968-862048656794.jpeg



Farken from Copenhagen. Back home in early March. Sort it out before then you Kunts

Arsehole
 
  • Like
  • Haha
  • Fire
Reactions: 15 users

Winenut

Go AVZ!
Cheers @Shire. I don’t know whether the Australian government is assisting, but I’m near certain that the US government is well across it and the strategic implications. Plus they carry a big hammer, so I’m sure they carry far greater diplomatic weight than us Aussies.
Interested in your thoughts there Mr Inappropriate

Why doesn't Oz have a decent hammer in the tool kit??

Although totally agree.....the US carries a lot more diplomatic weight

Mmmm....Aussie Govt assisting?????

So far the level of Aussie Govt assistance seems about as tangible and real as the support from the "highest levels of the DRC Govt"

Hopefully "The times they are a changin' ......"
 
  • Like
  • Thinking
  • Fire
Reactions: 6 users

tonster66

Regular
  • Haha
Reactions: 5 users

tonster66

Regular
I remember the statement of Klaus in the Axinocapital Interview from 14th january so I heard it again a few times:

„In the last 8 weeks all license’s got canceled, and the partner need to sit together to make a new deal over roche dure. But this is not in relation to the manono north license but have a general impact in the transfer of licenses.“

Klaus repeated the cancelation of all Manono Licenses at the begin of the video and in the middle. So I think it was no mispronounced from him.

It looks like Klaus is on the money and have the better insights and after his statement he is in the DRC since the end of january (said in the Interview in 2 weeks...so maybe before the 28th january) and tries to close the deal with manono north as soon as possible. He expect that something will definitive move in the next 3 months.

I have send the Interview to the management after I saw it the first time and I'm sure axinocapital did the same.
I asked the management what it means the manono licenses got canceled but I got no response. So our Management must had a information about a cancelation process.

Two weeks later the MoM canceled the decrees. So it looks like its truth the partner need to sit together to make a new deal over roche dure.
The final question: Is AVZ still a part of the partners who need to make a new deal over roche dure or not? Did they got informed about a cancelation?

If not it would be a really bad sign.

A other thought...AJN stated the nothern part is under dispute, to acquire it the dispute need to be settled. One option...cancel the decree to make it free for a new aquiration process.
Now the question is are both parts of the license are automatically rejoined together after the cancellation??

I think a lot is being kept secret from us, it looks like there is only the possibility that avz is in negotiations and still a part or we really have already been thrown out without information. But "seeking legal advice and needed discussion to clarify the intentions of the DRC and fighting for a just outcome" in comparison to "The Company is steadfast in its resolve of achieving a positive outcome for shareholders" are two worlds that give me the feeling that we could no longer sitting at the negotiating table anymore.
If Felix does nothing about the corruption identified in the IGF report he will not be elected as he becomes complicit in the crime against the DRC. He was elected on the basis to rid the DRC of corruption however becomes corruption by his inaction. It's not like he does not know. He gave Jules and the IGF the instruction to expose corruption. Felix must act or he will be cast aside at the election.
 
  • Like
  • Fire
  • Thinking
Reactions: 10 users

Ozthescot

Regular
  • Haha
  • Like
Reactions: 7 users

Ozthescot

Regular
If Felix does nothing about the corruption identified in the IGF report he will not be elected as he becomes complicit in the crime against the DRC. He was elected on the basis to rid the DRC of corruption however becomes corruption by his inaction. It's not like he does not know. He gave Jules and the IGF the instruction to expose corruption. Felix must act or he will be cast aside at the election.
Well i guess we will find out soon enough.
 

tonster66

Regular
  • Haha
  • Like
Reactions: 20 users

Ozthescot

Regular
Listen mate, Tommy the Twat says Zoe is Joseph's sister, and he is never wrong!
Haha i had a feeling you were referencing that! Fair play.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 8 users

Flight996

Regular
  • Like
Reactions: 1 users

Charbella

Regular
I remember the statement of Klaus in the Axinocapital Interview from 14th january so I heard it again a few times:

„In the last 8 weeks all license’s got canceled, and the partner need to sit together to make a new deal over roche dure. But this is not in relation to the manono north license but have a general impact in the transfer of licenses.“

Klaus repeated the cancelation of all Manono Licenses at the begin of the video and in the middle. So I think it was no mispronounced from him.

It looks like Klaus is on the money and have the better insights and after his statement he is in the DRC since the end of january (said in the Interview in 2 weeks...so maybe before the 28th january) and tries to close the deal with manono north as soon as possible. He expect that something will definitive move in the next 3 months.

I have send the Interview to the management after I saw it the first time and I'm sure axinocapital did the same.
I asked the management what it means the manono licenses got canceled but I got no response. So our Management must had a information about a cancelation process.

Two weeks later the MoM canceled the decrees. So it looks like its truth the partner need to sit together to make a new deal over roche dure.
The final question: Is AVZ still a part of the partners who need to make a new deal over roche dure or not? Did they got informed about a cancelation?

If not it would be a really bad sign.

A other thought...AJN stated the nothern part is under dispute, to acquire it the dispute need to be settled. One option...cancel the decree to make it free for a new aquiration process.
Now the question is are both parts of the license are automatically rejoined together after the cancellation??

I think a lot is being kept secret from us, it looks like there is only the possibility that avz is in negotiations and still a part or we really have already been thrown out without information. But "seeking legal advice and needed discussion to clarify the intentions of the DRC and fighting for a just outcome" in comparison to "The Company is steadfast in its resolve of achieving a positive outcome for shareholders" are two worlds that give me the feeling that we could no longer sitting at the negotiating table anymore.
Hi Schemozzel, can we agree on the split has been cancelled by the MoM as per Decree 32? How can this not have an the impact on the Manono north license as stated by Klause? Pretty clear it's no longer on the table.

Can we also agree on the DRC wants to get this project underway as soon as possible? Is this scenario possible by removing AVZ from the picture and giving it to the Chinese? The Amercians will do nothing and watch the Chinese winning the EV race through corruption?

If Nigel is smart he should be engaging with the Americans at the highest level NOW! Nigel needs to put his pride aside and get help.

I was under the impression from the roadshow, Nigel doesn't think any governments would step in and help. If you don't ask, you don't get.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: 18 users

John25

Regular
Welcome to week 40 in suspension SHs
1675980468404.gif
 
  • Sad
  • Haha
  • Like
Reactions: 21 users

Doc

Master of Quan
  • Haha
  • Like
Reactions: 11 users

Charbella

Regular
Bravo Ant90!

If AVZ can pull this off it will transform not only the locals but DRC itself, setting a new precedent for business!
 

Attachments

  • 64F65D9A-2967-4DDE-9079-E47948062906.jpeg
    64F65D9A-2967-4DDE-9079-E47948062906.jpeg
    447.7 KB · Views: 161
  • Like
Reactions: 20 users
A other thought...AJN stated the nothern part is under dispute, to acquire it the dispute need to be settled. One option...cancel the decree to make it free for a new aquiration process.
Now the question is are both parts of the license are automatically rejoined together after the cancellation??
As it stands the tenement is whole again. The waiver by Dathcom was the legal basis for the split and that has now been cancelled. One of Cominiere's claims against AVZ is that they agreed to the waiver against the wishes of the minority shareholders of Dathcom so it would make sense that the MoM referenced that in the new decree to cancel the partition. But there is nothing to stop the MoM issuing a new decree that seizes the north to make it easier for them to give it to someone else.

However, AVZ control Dathcom so Cominiere can cry all they like and the MoM can use any excuse she wants but that shit will not stand up at the ICC imo

20230210_092305.jpg
 
Last edited:
  • Like
  • Fire
  • Thinking
Reactions: 18 users

timb89

Regular
Say AVZ are kicked out. Where does that leave the project? Do they have to begin drilling again? Redo DFS? How far behind would that put the project?
 

BRICK

Top 20
  • Haha
  • Like
Reactions: 11 users

Chilla

Regular
  • Like
  • Fire
Reactions: 15 users

wombat74

Top 20
Where is this Minister Reshuffle that was supposed to happen a month ago ?
 
  • Like
  • Thinking
  • Fire
Reactions: 18 users

CashKing

Regular
Where is this Minister Reshuffle that was supposed to happen a month ago ?
Sitting On the same desk as our Imminent Mining Licence.

GLTAH
 
  • Like
  • Haha
  • Fire
Reactions: 14 users
Top Bottom