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I don’t think the Legal fraternity gets under way until at least 9am lol.
AVZ Discussion 2022
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Sheesh, more talk of death threats.
What is going on ?!? Talk about the "pointy end"
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Stockinvesting
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Yeah. I get that.
FYI I have a legal background.
Momentum Laywers.
Q1. Have you made a motion to dismiss?
Q2. Will you be seeking costs?
Tell us WTF is happening.
Ps. If you're going to tweet, don't be upset at negative feedback.
Do your fucking job.
They're not actually involved in the case but I imagine have provided some sort of support or at least have connections with the lawyers there.
Hopefully all sorted soon because if ICC give the unprepared lawyers this much slack then can you imagine Zijin with their $$$$$
Stockinvesting
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Winenut
Go AVZ!
Is the matter at arbitration between Comminiere and MMCS?
I'm genuinely asking
If so Momentum may not be directly involved in the current proceedings.....I don't think they are the acting lawyers for Comminiere
Momentum may not be directly involved but have an interest through the AVZ connection assisting with our application for the ML
I could have that all wrong so happy to be corrected
Misfits
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RDC : Depuis l'annonce du gouvernement Sama2, la MinÉtat Adèle Kayinda victime des flèches empoisonnées !
Par Jean-Chrysostome Luntadila Jamais un membre du gouvernement n'aura été autant pris pour cible au point que son poste est devenu le centre de tous les intérêts des personnes qui en veulent à sa tête. Jamais également un membre du gouvernement s'est montré aussi résilient que la Princesse...
By Jean-Chrysostome Luntadila
Never before has a member of the government been so targeted that his position has become the centre of all the interests of those who want him at his head.
Never before has a member of the government been as resilient as Princess Adèle Kayinda, unfazed like a baobab tree planted near a stream of water.
Bahati, the eternal frustrated attacks Adèle Kayinda?
Political stables have been on alert since the announcement of the imminent reshuffle of the Sama Lukonde government, made on Friday, January 13 by the President of the Republic Felix Tshisekedi during the meeting of the Council of Ministers. Also, they are in the process of fomenting low blows, spreading false and bad testimonies, politely threatening the highest authorities, especially Prime Minister Sama Lukonde, assured to keep his chair.
Modeste Bahati Lukwebo, President of the Senate and one of the main leaders of the Sacred Union of the Nation, the political family of the Head of State, has already moved in this direction.
"I recall that our majority is fragile and that out of respect for the Chief, we had agreed to the reduction of the quota of the AFDC-A to the government.
That in addition our 2 ministries (portfolio and economy) have been confiscated for a year. Our silence and obedience must be understood as a way of building cohesion rather than a weakness," Bahati warned in a letter that he would be the author, without concealing his "frustration" with the implementation made in mid-November by the President of the Republic in companies and public institutions as well as in the territory.
"We have cashed a lot in the series of proxies and territorial," he reportedly said, stressing that "a political family does not consolidate in frustrations."
Remarks that, without a doubt, reek of threat if not blackmail to obtain at all costs the departure of the Minister of State for the Portfolio, Adèle Kayinda.
Look, the moral authority of the AFDC-A has never forgiven the Minister of State for the Portfolio for the firmness she showed in the face of her advances, worthy of a fox, during the period of preparation of the lists for the implementation in companies and public institutions.
Sources close to the ministry revealed: "Bahati submitted to Ms. Kayinda a long list of his supporters to be cased in companies. The Commission made it clear to him that this was neither possible nor within his competence, and that the rules established from the outset should be adhered to."
An answer that "would not have pleased the old Maradona who wanted to dribble his peers of the Sacred Union". Since then, the President of the Senate swears on Kayinda's head, suggesting to anyone who will listen that this portfolio belongs to AFDC-A. Under what?
"It is up to the President of the Republic, through his discretionary power, to decide on the fate of each minister. Who to renew and who to dismiss," argued some observers of the political scene, trying to reframe Modeste Bahati Lukwebo.
*Alingete, upstream and downstream of Bahati*
Poisoned arrows targeting Adèle Kayinda also emanate from Jules Alingete, Inspector General of Finance Head of Service. The latter undertook to claim his head long before Bahati. The two personalities, if they have not chorus until proven otherwise, they pursue, said our fine bloodhounds, the same objective: "the departure of Kayinda from the government".
Alingete and Bahati, they continued, have been joined in this fight by some governors, interested in the Ministry of the Portfolio to take it easy and prepare more serenely for the electoral jousts that are increasingly on the horizon.
"What could be more logical than to rest hopes on Jules Alingete and his machine of financial inspectors to bother the Kayinda min'state and make it bear the blame for the crimes it has never committed," our bloodhounds have understood.
Indeed, Jules Alingete made a pact with a group of 12 NGOs which, in early December 2022, accused the Minister of State for the Portfolio, Princess Adèle Kayinda, of diverting and selling off the heritage of the Congolese mining company (COMMINIERE).
"Gratuitous accusations made without evidence attesting to the personal involvement of Princess Adèle Kayinda," was answered in the entourage of the Min'Etat to the Portfolio.
The same persons explained that with regard to COMMINIERE, investigations were carried out both by the IGF and by other authorized public structures, reports prepared and presented to the Prime Minister for assessment and for necessary decisions.
"None of these investigations concluded on the involvement of the person of Adèle Kayinda in the sale of the heritage of COMMINIERE," they said, deploring the call for the dismissal of Kayinda launched by this group of NGOs, accused of being in the pay of Jules Alingete.
"The President of the Republic is not fooled. He sees everything. He knows everything. He knows that one of his Warriors, who is doing her job well, is the subject of low blows. But, he will decide in soul and conscience for the interest of Congo and not for the pleasure of a group of embittered and power-hungry for power," other analysts argued.
Meanwhile, Adele Kayinda, whose eyes are constantly on the God she serves as Deaconess, is quiet in her office, continuing to show bravery in leading the program of deep restructuring of state-owned enterprises to make them more efficient than ever.
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RDC : Depuis l'annonce du gouvernement Sama2, la MinÉtat Adèle Kayinda victime des flèches empoisonnées !
Par Jean-Chrysostome Luntadila Jamais un membre du gouvernement n'aura été autant pris pour cible au point que son poste est devenu le centre de tous les intérêts des personnes qui en veulent à sa tête. Jamais également un membre du gouvernement s'est montré aussi résilient que la Princesse...www.opinion-info.cd
By Jean-Chrysostome Luntadila
Never before has a member of the government been so targeted that his position has become the centre of all the interests of those who want him at his head.
Never before has a member of the government been as resilient as Princess Adèle Kayinda, unfazed like a baobab tree planted near a stream of water.
Bahati, the eternal frustrated attacks Adèle Kayinda?
Political stables have been on alert since the announcement of the imminent reshuffle of the Sama Lukonde government, made on Friday, January 13 by the President of the Republic Felix Tshisekedi during the meeting of the Council of Ministers. Also, they are in the process of fomenting low blows, spreading false and bad testimonies, politely threatening the highest authorities, especially Prime Minister Sama Lukonde, assured to keep his chair.
Modeste Bahati Lukwebo, President of the Senate and one of the main leaders of the Sacred Union of the Nation, the political family of the Head of State, has already moved in this direction.
"I recall that our majority is fragile and that out of respect for the Chief, we had agreed to the reduction of the quota of the AFDC-A to the government.
That in addition our 2 ministries (portfolio and economy) have been confiscated for a year. Our silence and obedience must be understood as a way of building cohesion rather than a weakness," Bahati warned in a letter that he would be the author, without concealing his "frustration" with the implementation made in mid-November by the President of the Republic in companies and public institutions as well as in the territory.
"We have cashed a lot in the series of proxies and territorial," he reportedly said, stressing that "a political family does not consolidate in frustrations."
Remarks that, without a doubt, reek of threat if not blackmail to obtain at all costs the departure of the Minister of State for the Portfolio, Adèle Kayinda.
Look, the moral authority of the AFDC-A has never forgiven the Minister of State for the Portfolio for the firmness she showed in the face of her advances, worthy of a fox, during the period of preparation of the lists for the implementation in companies and public institutions.
Sources close to the ministry revealed: "Bahati submitted to Ms. Kayinda a long list of his supporters to be cased in companies. The Commission made it clear to him that this was neither possible nor within his competence, and that the rules established from the outset should be adhered to."
An answer that "would not have pleased the old Maradona who wanted to dribble his peers of the Sacred Union". Since then, the President of the Senate swears on Kayinda's head, suggesting to anyone who will listen that this portfolio belongs to AFDC-A. Under what?
"It is up to the President of the Republic, through his discretionary power, to decide on the fate of each minister. Who to renew and who to dismiss," argued some observers of the political scene, trying to reframe Modeste Bahati Lukwebo.
*Alingete, upstream and downstream of Bahati*
Poisoned arrows targeting Adèle Kayinda also emanate from Jules Alingete, Inspector General of Finance Head of Service. The latter undertook to claim his head long before Bahati. The two personalities, if they have not chorus until proven otherwise, they pursue, said our fine bloodhounds, the same objective: "the departure of Kayinda from the government".
Alingete and Bahati, they continued, have been joined in this fight by some governors, interested in the Ministry of the Portfolio to take it easy and prepare more serenely for the electoral jousts that are increasingly on the horizon.
"What could be more logical than to rest hopes on Jules Alingete and his machine of financial inspectors to bother the Kayinda min'state and make it bear the blame for the crimes it has never committed," our bloodhounds have understood.
Indeed, Jules Alingete made a pact with a group of 12 NGOs which, in early December 2022, accused the Minister of State for the Portfolio, Princess Adèle Kayinda, of diverting and selling off the heritage of the Congolese mining company (COMMINIERE).
"Gratuitous accusations made without evidence attesting to the personal involvement of Princess Adèle Kayinda," was answered in the entourage of the Min'Etat to the Portfolio.
The same persons explained that with regard to COMMINIERE, investigations were carried out both by the IGF and by other authorized public structures, reports prepared and presented to the Prime Minister for assessment and for necessary decisions.
"None of these investigations concluded on the involvement of the person of Adèle Kayinda in the sale of the heritage of COMMINIERE," they said, deploring the call for the dismissal of Kayinda launched by this group of NGOs, accused of being in the pay of Jules Alingete.
"The President of the Republic is not fooled. He sees everything. He knows everything. He knows that one of his Warriors, who is doing her job well, is the subject of low blows. But, he will decide in soul and conscience for the interest of Congo and not for the pleasure of a group of embittered and power-hungry for power," other analysts argued.
Meanwhile, Adele Kayinda, whose eyes are constantly on the God she serves as Deaconess, is quiet in her office, continuing to show bravery in leading the program of deep restructuring of state-owned enterprises to make them more efficient than ever.
Who the fuck is writing this shit?
Who the fuck is paying??
Why of course? Cominiere aren't exactly thrilled with AVZ, why would they consent to the involvement of AVZ's lawyers?
The arbitration case being discussed in these tweets is around the stripping of MMCS' licence way back when before AVZ were involved. Sure they may now be trying to claw a piece of Dathcom from Cominiere as a recent gambit for compensation but we aren't a claimant nor respondent in these proceedings.
I'm not sure how you expect the lawyers of a party not directly involved in the arbitration to file a motion to dismiss or to seek costs. Where'd you pick up that legal background?
DiscoDanNZ
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RDC : Depuis l'annonce du gouvernement Sama2, la MinÉtat Adèle Kayinda victime des flèches empoisonnées !
Par Jean-Chrysostome Luntadila Jamais un membre du gouvernement n'aura été autant pris pour cible au point que son poste est devenu le centre de tous les intérêts des personnes qui en veulent à sa tête. Jamais également un membre du gouvernement s'est montré aussi résilient que la Princesse...
By Jean-Chrysostome Luntadila
Never before has a member of the government been so targeted that his position has become the centre of all the interests of those who want him at his head.
Never before has a member of the government been as resilient as Princess Adèle Kayinda, unfazed like a baobab tree planted near a stream of water.
Bahati, the eternal frustrated attacks Adèle Kayinda?
Political stables have been on alert since the announcement of the imminent reshuffle of the Sama Lukonde government, made on Friday, January 13 by the President of the Republic Felix Tshisekedi during the meeting of the Council of Ministers. Also, they are in the process of fomenting low blows, spreading false and bad testimonies, politely threatening the highest authorities, especially Prime Minister Sama Lukonde, assured to keep his chair.
Modeste Bahati Lukwebo, President of the Senate and one of the main leaders of the Sacred Union of the Nation, the political family of the Head of State, has already moved in this direction.
"I recall that our majority is fragile and that out of respect for the Chief, we had agreed to the reduction of the quota of the AFDC-A to the government.
That in addition our 2 ministries (portfolio and economy) have been confiscated for a year. Our silence and obedience must be understood as a way of building cohesion rather than a weakness," Bahati warned in a letter that he would be the author, without concealing his "frustration" with the implementation made in mid-November by the President of the Republic in companies and public institutions as well as in the territory.
"We have cashed a lot in the series of proxies and territorial," he reportedly said, stressing that "a political family does not consolidate in frustrations."
Remarks that, without a doubt, reek of threat if not blackmail to obtain at all costs the departure of the Minister of State for the Portfolio, Adèle Kayinda.
Look, the moral authority of the AFDC-A has never forgiven the Minister of State for the Portfolio for the firmness she showed in the face of her advances, worthy of a fox, during the period of preparation of the lists for the implementation in companies and public institutions.
Sources close to the ministry revealed: "Bahati submitted to Ms. Kayinda a long list of his supporters to be cased in companies. The Commission made it clear to him that this was neither possible nor within his competence, and that the rules established from the outset should be adhered to."
An answer that "would not have pleased the old Maradona who wanted to dribble his peers of the Sacred Union". Since then, the President of the Senate swears on Kayinda's head, suggesting to anyone who will listen that this portfolio belongs to AFDC-A. Under what?
"It is up to the President of the Republic, through his discretionary power, to decide on the fate of each minister. Who to renew and who to dismiss," argued some observers of the political scene, trying to reframe Modeste Bahati Lukwebo.
*Alingete, upstream and downstream of Bahati*
Poisoned arrows targeting Adèle Kayinda also emanate from Jules Alingete, Inspector General of Finance Head of Service. The latter undertook to claim his head long before Bahati. The two personalities, if they have not chorus until proven otherwise, they pursue, said our fine bloodhounds, the same objective: "the departure of Kayinda from the government".
Alingete and Bahati, they continued, have been joined in this fight by some governors, interested in the Ministry of the Portfolio to take it easy and prepare more serenely for the electoral jousts that are increasingly on the horizon.
"What could be more logical than to rest hopes on Jules Alingete and his machine of financial inspectors to bother the Kayinda min'state and make it bear the blame for the crimes it has never committed," our bloodhounds have understood.
Indeed, Jules Alingete made a pact with a group of 12 NGOs which, in early December 2022, accused the Minister of State for the Portfolio, Princess Adèle Kayinda, of diverting and selling off the heritage of the Congolese mining company (COMMINIERE).
"Gratuitous accusations made without evidence attesting to the personal involvement of Princess Adèle Kayinda," was answered in the entourage of the Min'Etat to the Portfolio.
The same persons explained that with regard to COMMINIERE, investigations were carried out both by the IGF and by other authorized public structures, reports prepared and presented to the Prime Minister for assessment and for necessary decisions.
"None of these investigations concluded on the involvement of the person of Adèle Kayinda in the sale of the heritage of COMMINIERE," they said, deploring the call for the dismissal of Kayinda launched by this group of NGOs, accused of being in the pay of Jules Alingete.
"The President of the Republic is not fooled. He sees everything. He knows everything. He knows that one of his Warriors, who is doing her job well, is the subject of low blows. But, he will decide in soul and conscience for the interest of Congo and not for the pleasure of a group of embittered and power-hungry for power," other analysts argued.
Meanwhile, Adele Kayinda, whose eyes are constantly on the God she serves as Deaconess, is quiet in her office, continuing to show bravery in leading the program of deep restructuring of state-owned enterprises to make them more efficient than ever.
Let your imagination run wild Zijin's journalist on the scene.
Remark
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It's interesting that when you put the "journalist's" name into Google the first result is this Instagram page...
https://www.instagram.com/congolese_in_china/
Yep, as others have said and I've alluded to it's probably more indirect.
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Picture in your mind’s eye two Game of Thrones characters conversing. Now re-read the above as if spoken by those characters. It makes much more sense,RDC : Depuis l'annonce du gouvernement Sama2, la MinÉtat Adèle Kayinda victime des flèches empoisonnées !
Par Jean-Chrysostome Luntadila Jamais un membre du gouvernement n'aura été autant pris pour cible au point que son poste est devenu le centre de tous les intérêts des personnes qui en veulent à sa tête. Jamais également un membre du gouvernement s'est montré aussi résilient que la Princesse...
By Jean-Chrysostome Luntadila
Never before has a member of the government been so targeted that his position has become the centre of all the interests of those who want him at his head.
Never before has a member of the government been as resilient as Princess Adèle Kayinda, unfazed like a baobab tree planted near a stream of water.
Bahati, the eternal frustrated attacks Adèle Kayinda?
Political stables have been on alert since the announcement of the imminent reshuffle of the Sama Lukonde government, made on Friday, January 13 by the President of the Republic Felix Tshisekedi during the meeting of the Council of Ministers. Also, they are in the process of fomenting low blows, spreading false and bad testimonies, politely threatening the highest authorities, especially Prime Minister Sama Lukonde, assured to keep his chair.
Modeste Bahati Lukwebo, President of the Senate and one of the main leaders of the Sacred Union of the Nation, the political family of the Head of State, has already moved in this direction.
"I recall that our majority is fragile and that out of respect for the Chief, we had agreed to the reduction of the quota of the AFDC-A to the government.
That in addition our 2 ministries (portfolio and economy) have been confiscated for a year. Our silence and obedience must be understood as a way of building cohesion rather than a weakness," Bahati warned in a letter that he would be the author, without concealing his "frustration" with the implementation made in mid-November by the President of the Republic in companies and public institutions as well as in the territory.
"We have cashed a lot in the series of proxies and territorial," he reportedly said, stressing that "a political family does not consolidate in frustrations."
Remarks that, without a doubt, reek of threat if not blackmail to obtain at all costs the departure of the Minister of State for the Portfolio, Adèle Kayinda.
Look, the moral authority of the AFDC-A has never forgiven the Minister of State for the Portfolio for the firmness she showed in the face of her advances, worthy of a fox, during the period of preparation of the lists for the implementation in companies and public institutions.
Sources close to the ministry revealed: "Bahati submitted to Ms. Kayinda a long list of his supporters to be cased in companies. The Commission made it clear to him that this was neither possible nor within his competence, and that the rules established from the outset should be adhered to."
An answer that "would not have pleased the old Maradona who wanted to dribble his peers of the Sacred Union". Since then, the President of the Senate swears on Kayinda's head, suggesting to anyone who will listen that this portfolio belongs to AFDC-A. Under what?
"It is up to the President of the Republic, through his discretionary power, to decide on the fate of each minister. Who to renew and who to dismiss," argued some observers of the political scene, trying to reframe Modeste Bahati Lukwebo.
*Alingete, upstream and downstream of Bahati*
Poisoned arrows targeting Adèle Kayinda also emanate from Jules Alingete, Inspector General of Finance Head of Service. The latter undertook to claim his head long before Bahati. The two personalities, if they have not chorus until proven otherwise, they pursue, said our fine bloodhounds, the same objective: "the departure of Kayinda from the government".
Alingete and Bahati, they continued, have been joined in this fight by some governors, interested in the Ministry of the Portfolio to take it easy and prepare more serenely for the electoral jousts that are increasingly on the horizon.
"What could be more logical than to rest hopes on Jules Alingete and his machine of financial inspectors to bother the Kayinda min'state and make it bear the blame for the crimes it has never committed," our bloodhounds have understood.
Indeed, Jules Alingete made a pact with a group of 12 NGOs which, in early December 2022, accused the Minister of State for the Portfolio, Princess Adèle Kayinda, of diverting and selling off the heritage of the Congolese mining company (COMMINIERE).
"Gratuitous accusations made without evidence attesting to the personal involvement of Princess Adèle Kayinda," was answered in the entourage of the Min'Etat to the Portfolio.
The same persons explained that with regard to COMMINIERE, investigations were carried out both by the IGF and by other authorized public structures, reports prepared and presented to the Prime Minister for assessment and for necessary decisions.
"None of these investigations concluded on the involvement of the person of Adèle Kayinda in the sale of the heritage of COMMINIERE," they said, deploring the call for the dismissal of Kayinda launched by this group of NGOs, accused of being in the pay of Jules Alingete.
"The President of the Republic is not fooled. He sees everything. He knows everything. He knows that one of his Warriors, who is doing her job well, is the subject of low blows. But, he will decide in soul and conscience for the interest of Congo and not for the pleasure of a group of embittered and power-hungry for power," other analysts argued.
Meanwhile, Adele Kayinda, whose eyes are constantly on the God she serves as Deaconess, is quiet in her office, continuing to show bravery in leading the program of deep restructuring of state-owned enterprises to make them more efficient than ever.
If you don’t, it’s just gobbledegook...
Tell me I’m wrong.
Stockinvesting
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Stockinvesting
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I'm not sure what you're pointing to on their website. My understanding was that they wouldn't be involved in addressing the arbitration proceedings between MMCS and Cominiere, but if you've found something suggesting otherwise then do advise us. I'm interested to see if I'm mistaken
Mr Inappropriate
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Soooo, what was the wash-up from today? Do we have anything definitive or just Mr Momentum’s musing?
Or are the turds still circling the drain?
Or are the turds still circling the drain?
Jesus mate you'd need a 6 tf diameter pipe for all these turds to wash through. And even then i reckon Kong and Co would still be stuck to the sides.
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