AVZ Discussion 2022

obe wan

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The Corrupt Prime Minister (Lukonde) has all the power. He was elected by the FFC (Joseph Kabila’s old party) who have the majority of seats in the National Assembly.

Lukonde got to select the majority of ministers (from the FFC party) including Kayinda.

Lukonde overrules Antoinette (MoM) so she can’t get rid of Mupande.

In the past Lukonde has overruled other judgements made against Chinese companies including Zigin and CMOC.

Lukonde is the corrupt criminal in all this who protects Kayinda and Mupande

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yep, 100% he's the source issue
 
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Xerof

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Good post and pretty much the way I've heard it. The only WTF that pokes it's head out hard, is that apparently AJN also have an application lodged for the northern part; we all know that they (CAMI) as per mining code can't just dissect pieces of original whole tenements which was original awarded under an exploration licence.

The decree was awarded which only contained and provided exploitation rights to Roche Dure ; Carrier was to be renumbered and would become a new exploration tenement under it's own number ; but with newly created tenement numbers, these generally result in new applications...as far as I'm aware AJNs / congo resources application is lodged.

If AVZ was awarded South ( which they basically have ) then our name would be on the Cami website for the southern Zone ( which it is ) ; if AVZ we're being granted North as an exploration licence, then on the Cami website it should have a new number and state AVZ ( which it doesn't) ....

There's also rumour that AVZ agreed to the Southern grant and the Northern area to be numbered and issued as a 5 year exploration ; but in doing that there was some bending in it's meaning by DG Cami, in that new number, new application and it didn't mean that AVZ would just get it automatically I.e. It was basically revoked ; the AJN lodgement of their application would back that up.

AVZ called B/S on this move and the lawyers were in at it again. All AVZ are apparently waiting on is for DG to issue the ML, but still CAMi website shows Carrier as being blank and the AJN application is still lodged.

Surely if that was all sorted out, maybe we’d still be waiting on DG to issue the invoice, but as the area of land under the exploitation zone would be known that would be 5 seconds on a calculator ; but the Cami website should be showing Dathom 13359 adn Dathcom xyz ( north) , but it's still blank and as far as I know AJNs application is still in there ; also no explaination from anywhere on what's happened to TTXs tenement, TTX released anything on the Canadan or German exchanges either.......but all we hear is that we are just waiting on DG to sign an invoice....just feels like there's something a bit more to this

The last I saw was in recent AJN announcement where they have acknowledged the North application is now 'disputed'.

So I guess our legals are working this through the channels

Has anyone else noticed that the flow of crappola from the DRC fake news department has dried right up? Is that a sign of progress? straws and clutching come to mind, and I am probably tempting fate, but I find the ceasefire interesting

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They seem to run out of bullshit not long after each AVZ ann then spend the next month preparing the next load of bullshit for AVZs next announcement. Reoccurring cycle
 
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obe wan

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The last I saw was in recent AJN announcement where they have acknowledged the North application is now 'disputed'.

So I guess our legals are working this through the channels

Has anyone else noticed that the flow of crappola from the DRC fake news department has dried right up? Is that a sign of progress? straws and clutching come to mind, and I am probably tempting fate, but I find the ceasefire interesting

Kunt
agree, gone a bit subdued on that front. TTX tenements vanished and AJN also fucking off down the road for 75% Acquistion into MEKs tenement...even though AJN have hardly a pot to piss in cash wise.

Anyone hear anything on the TTX tenement ? they haven't released anything to the market on that front which would be odd if they did actually lose it
 
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True this fuck-nugget has no authority, why not put the cat amongst the pigeons and get Chantal Bashizi involved and calculating fees. Yes she isn't in office but on authority of Antionette and under direction orders from Felix surely this can sneak through while undermining cunt-features?

Two birds one stone, putting a nail into Mupandes long overdue coffin and getting the mythical ML.

https://www.politico.cd/encontinu/2...shizi-pour-prendre-ses-fonctions.html/105849/

I wouldn't trust any article that came out of Politico - they are one of the detractors.
 
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Good post and pretty much the way I've heard it. The only WTF that pokes it's head out hard, is that apparently AJN also have an application lodged for the northern part; we all know that they (CAMI) as per mining code can't just dissect pieces of original whole tenements which was original awarded under an exploration licence.

The decree was awarded which only contained and provided exploitation rights to Roche Dure ; Carrier was to be renumbered and would become a new exploration tenement under it's own number ; but with newly created tenement numbers, these generally result in new applications...as far as I'm aware AJNs / congo resources application is lodged.

If AVZ was awarded South ( which they basically have ) then our name would be on the Cami website for the southern Zone ( which it is ) ; if AVZ we're being granted North as an exploration licence, then on the Cami website it should have a new number and state AVZ ( which it doesn't) ....

There's also rumour that AVZ agreed to the Southern grant and the Northern area to be numbered and issued as a 5 year exploration ; but in doing that there was some bending in it's meaning by DG Cami, in that new number, new application and it didn't mean that AVZ would just get it automatically I.e. It was basically revoked ; the AJN lodgement of their application would back that up.

AVZ called B/S on this move and the lawyers were in at it again. All AVZ are apparently waiting on is for DG to issue the ML, but still CAMi website shows Carrier as being blank and the AJN application is still lodged.

Surely if that was all sorted out, maybe we’d still be waiting on DG to issue the invoice, but as the area of land under the exploitation zone would be known that would be 5 seconds on a calculator ; but the Cami website should be showing Dathom 13359 adn Dathcom xyz ( north) , but it's still blank and as far as I know AJNs application is still in there ; also no explaination from anywhere on what's happened to TTXs tenement, TTX released anything on the Canadan or German exchanges either.......but all we hear is that we are just waiting on DG to sign an invoice....just feels like there's something a bit more to this
Mate so is the ML available to us for Roche Dure if we accept ?
 
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Good post and pretty much the way I've heard it. The only WTF that pokes it's head out hard, is that apparently AJN also have an application lodged for the northern part; we all know that they (CAMI) as per mining code can't just dissect pieces of original whole tenements which was original awarded under an exploration licence.

The decree was awarded which only contained and provided exploitation rights to Roche Dure ; Carrier was to be renumbered and would become a new exploration tenement under it's own number ; but with newly created tenement numbers, these generally result in new applications...as far as I'm aware AJNs / congo resources application is lodged.

If AVZ was awarded South ( which they basically have ) then our name would be on the Cami website for the southern Zone ( which it is ) ; if AVZ we're being granted North as an exploration licence, then on the Cami website it should have a new number and state AVZ ( which it doesn't) ....

There's also rumour that AVZ agreed to the Southern grant and the Northern area to be numbered and issued as a 5 year exploration ; but in doing that there was some bending in it's meaning by DG Cami, in that new number, new application and it didn't mean that AVZ would just get it automatically I.e. It was basically revoked ; the AJN lodgement of their application would back that up.

AVZ called B/S on this move and the lawyers were in at it again. All AVZ are apparently waiting on is for DG to issue the ML, but still CAMi website shows Carrier as being blank and the AJN application is still lodged.

Surely if that was all sorted out, maybe we’d still be waiting on DG to issue the invoice, but as the area of land under the exploitation zone would be known that would be 5 seconds on a calculator ; but the Cami website should be showing Dathom 13359 adn Dathcom xyz ( north) , but it's still blank and as far as I know AJNs application is still in there ; also no explaination from anywhere on what's happened to TTXs tenement, TTX released anything on the Canadan or German exchanges either.......but all we hear is that we are just waiting on DG to sign an invoice....just feels like there's something a bit more to this
Mate have you talked to the hermits in West perth regarding the 10 m ton dfs. Ie is it finished and if it isn't why isn't it. As I'd rather money be spent on that rather than pre works. At least dfs is salable. Cheers
 
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Last post for the day hopefully.... I know most here have a general understanding of what's going on but just to add a little more thickness to this corrupt mess:


1) Jean Felix Mupande Kapwa is conspiring with Simon Cong (Dathomir) and Klaus Eckhof (AJN)


Chantal Bashizi was appointed Administrative Director General of the Mining Cadastre (CAMI) on 27/12/2018 by a presidential order appointing representatives to the Mining Cadastre (CAMI). In her letter of June 16, 2021, the Minister of Mines, Antoinette Nsamba, gave the reason for this postponement. According to her, this postponement was made on the instruction of Prime Minister Sama Lukonde.


2) Adele Kayinda Mahina is conspiring with Cominiere and Zigin


The IGF Report found Adele Kayinda Mahina was complicit in the illegal and fraudulent transfer of shares from Cominiere to Zigin last year.... and here she is with Jean Sama Lukonde last year.

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3) Jean Sama Lukonde Kyenge is conspiring with more than just Jean Felix Mupande Kapwa and Adele Kayinda Mahina

This woman, Xu Jinghu is the Special Representative of the Chinese Government on African Affairs. If nothing else, we have to say he is definitely a 'ladies man'

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4) Why hasn't Felix Tshisekedi done anything???? Given....

The prime minister’s power has been reduced by the Presidential Strategic Watch Council (PSWC), a veritable monitoring body that was created when Tshisekedi and Kabila had their power-sharing deal. Its mission is to monitor the president of the republic’s commitments and ensure that the government implements them. It is headed by François Muamba, who is one of the head of state’s most influential advisors, and now occupies an unprecedented position within national institutions. By presidential decree, the PSWC “has been placed under the direct authority of the president of the republic, from whom it receives orientations, directives and instructions and to whom it reports on its mission.” This status places it at the same level as the prime minister’s office, thus allowing it to summon government members and demand activity reports from them.
 
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Xerof

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I would add in Jean Felix Mupande Kapwa conspiring with Zijin on their Plan B which, as a start, seems to include the hydro-power contract.

As well, he is conspiring with AJN (or Klaus at least) over the so-called northern tenement, which if they were to be successful, would end up with Zijin - no question

not saying either of these will be successful, but they seem to be yet more roadblocks to frustrate progress

#clusterfuck

Kunt
 
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Last post for the day hopefully.... I know most here have a general understanding of what's going on but just to add a little more thickness to this corrupt mess:


1) Jean Felix Mupande Kapwa is conspiring with Simon Cong (Dathomir) and Klaus Eckhof (AJN)


Chantal Bashizi was appointed Administrative Director General of the Mining Cadastre (CAMI) on 27/12/2018 by a presidential order appointing representatives to the Mining Cadastre (CAMI). In her letter of June 16, 2021, the Minister of Mines, Antoinette Nsamba, gave the reason for this postponement. According to her, this postponement was made on the instruction of Prime Minister Sama Lukonde.


2) Adele Kayinda Mahina is conspiring with Cominiere and Zigin


The IGF Report found Adele Kayinda Mahina was complicit in the illegal and fraudulent transfer of shares from Cominiere to Zigin last year.... and here she is with Jean Sama Lukonde last year.

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3) Jean Sama Lukonde Kyenge is conspiring with more than just Jean Felix Mupande Kapwa and Adele Kayinda Mahina

This woman, Xu Jinghu is the Special Representative of the Chinese Government on African Affairs. If nothing else, we have to say he is definitely a 'ladies man'

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4) Why hasn't Felix Tshisekedi done anything???? Given....

The prime minister’s power has been reduced by the Presidential Strategic Watch Council (PSWC), a veritable monitoring body that was created when Tshisekedi and Kabila had their power-sharing deal. Its mission is to monitor the president of the republic’s commitments and ensure that the government implements them. It is headed by François Muamba, who is one of the head of state’s most influential advisors, and now occupies an unprecedented position within national institutions. By presidential decree, the PSWC “has been placed under the direct authority of the president of the republic, from whom it receives orientations, directives and instructions and to whom it reports on its mission.” This status places it at the same level as the prime minister’s office, thus allowing it to summon government members and demand activity reports from them.

Last post for the day hopefully.... I know most here have a general understanding of what's going on but just to add a little more thickness to this corrupt mess:


1) Jean Felix Mupande Kapwa is conspiring with Simon Cong (Dathomir) and Klaus Eckhof (AJN)


Chantal Bashizi was appointed Administrative Director General of the Mining Cadastre (CAMI) on 27/12/2018 by a presidential order appointing representatives to the Mining Cadastre (CAMI). In her letter of June 16, 2021, the Minister of Mines, Antoinette Nsamba, gave the reason for this postponement. According to her, this postponement was made on the instruction of Prime Minister Sama Lukonde.


2) Adele Kayinda Mahina is conspiring with Cominiere and Zigin


The IGF Report found Adele Kayinda Mahina was complicit in the illegal and fraudulent transfer of shares from Cominiere to Zigin last year.... and here she is with Jean Sama Lukonde last year.

View attachment 26733


3) Jean Sama Lukonde Kyenge is conspiring with more than just Jean Felix Mupande Kapwa and Adele Kayinda Mahina

This woman, Xu Jinghu is the Special Representative of the Chinese Government on African Affairs. If nothing else, we have to say he is definitely a 'ladies man'

View attachment 26734


4) Why hasn't Felix Tshisekedi done anything???? Given....

The prime minister’s power has been reduced by the Presidential Strategic Watch Council (PSWC), a veritable monitoring body that was created when Tshisekedi and Kabila had their power-sharing deal. Its mission is to monitor the president of the republic’s commitments and ensure that the government implements them. It is headed by François Muamba, who is one of the head of state’s most influential advisors, and now occupies an unprecedented position within national institutions. By presidential decree, the PSWC “has been placed under the direct authority of the president of the republic, from whom it receives orientations, directives and instructions and to whom it reports on its mission.” This status places it at the same level as the prime minister’s office, thus allowing it to summon government members and demand activity reports from them.
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Xerof

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I would add in Jean Felix Mupande Kapwa conspiring with Zijin on their Plan B which, as a start, seems to include the hydro-power contract.

As well, he is conspiring with AJN (or Klaus at least) over the so-called northern tenement, which if they were to be successful, would end up with Zijin - no question

not saying either of these will be successful, but they seem to be yet more roadblocks to frustrate progress

#clusterfuck

Kunt
Ahh, fuck, I see you had already mentioned Klusterfuck Klaus. Sorry

Please confirm receipt of this correction @MoneyBags1348
 
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I would add in Jean Felix Mupande Kapwa conspiring with Zijin on their Plan B which, as a start, seems to include the hydro-power contract.

As well, he is conspiring with AJN (or Klaus at least) over the so-called northern tenement, which if they were to be successful, would end up with Zijin - no question

not saying either of these will be successful, but they seem to be yet more roadblocks to frustrate progress

#clusterfuck

Kunt

Wasn’t going to post this info X, but seeing you mentioned hydro, here’s a bit of news about the US building hydro power in the DRC



Clean Power

MyHydro To Start Construction Of The First Of 33 Small Hydropower Plants In DRC​

By Remeredzai Joseph Kuhudzai
Published 36 seconds ago‌

The Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) has one of the lowest electrification rates on the African continent and in the world. The DRC’s electrification rate is around 10%. As access to electricity is one of the main drivers of development, increasing the country’s electrification is long overdue. Accelerating energy access programs will help transform the lives of the majority of citizens in the DRC.

This is just the first paragraph, the rest is on the link, but I’m more interested in what specifically relates to us so wasn’t really interested in this article

…. And ‘correction’ noted 🖕…. Oops I mean 👍

I must be starting to like you, I’m even getting my sense of humour back, and like the way you put your own spin on farken 😂😂 using Kunt 🤣🤣….

This place has really provided a home for profanity on social forums farken
 
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Zijin the common denominator here. The trash in government is allowing it while the few good guys are out manoeuvred, and Felix is worried about his re-election so isn't doing shit about the poisonous green mamba and Mupande which would help our cause no end.

It looks clear as day that AJN (Klaus) has gone to Mupande and shown him the $$ he can make off of his idea to sell our 'northern' tenement to Zijin who are happy and willing to buy at a 'good' price for all concerned.

Mupande being a greedy fat cunt instantly clings to this idea and hatches the plan to tell ole dopey Nigel that Felix wants the tenement split, Klaus and Mupande howl with laughter together at the plan while wearing trademark shit-eating grins while giving each other reach-arounds.

Nigel receives an Email telling him Felix wants the tenement split and they have to give it up with a suspicious lol rofl after the signoff, he thinks nothing of it. Dopey Nigel uses all his 'Africa' experience and ratifies this, not only dopey Nigel but dopey BOD as this would have gone through them too, and by fuck I hope not dopey lawyers as well or I'll jump off a fucking cliff!!! (knowing my luck I'll survive and become dopey too)

Felix then meets with Nigel who informs him of this betrayal by Mupande, 'I'll show you the emails" promises Nigel and Felix does his best to pretend he'll fucking do something other than fly around the world drinking champagne and telling everyone what a great investment opportunity DRC is. Thanks for fuck all Felix.

Problem is we have the cunt at AJN who has likely promised more money to that cum-stain Mupande, with Zijin waiting to pay that money so we have three piles shit trying everything to block any progression we make. Don't forget cunty Simon Cong who was late to the party but on orders from his masters is now acting the cunt too.

With so many cunts around, somebody is going to get fucked
 
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Here I go again with the old “Last post for the day hopefully”

I really don’t like being on here tying up the threads day in, day out but I have to say a few things to all the TSE readers

Firstly I realise it’s probably not the best thing to be using profanity here so often but it began in frustration (for many of us) and ended up being a source of fun that may or may not have gone to far, but I hope anyone who is constantly offended at least acknowledges that most of it comes from poster’s here that provide a lot of information and of course I’m aware that there are also more dignified posters. I just wanted to acknowledge that before moving on.

Secondly, an important reason for providing information here (that isn’t acknowledged) is that it provides less experienced shareholders with information to help provide a level playing field.

By that I mean, there are institutional and other investors that are more aware of what’s happening in and around companies (including those short seller arsewipes) that will try and manipulate stocks through any means possible.

Boatman is one example, the scam class action is another…. and yet another is Morgan Stanley, who will put out a report saying the price of lithium will go down (or EV sales will fall etc) right before they buy a whole lot of shares in lithium companies. Then they will put out another report saying the opposite when they want to do the opposite.

When stocks change indexes (eg going into the ASX200 and ASX100) skullduggery arises again in a different form, as big funds are forced into buying. If AVZ succeeds we could go into the ASX top 50 companies.

So many things for investors to consider, so making the playing field more even for everyone is important. Knowledge is important.

One could say we have picked the perfect time to be in suspension…. The global economy has slowed and growth will slow even further. The biggest economies in the world are facing recession.

Prices to construct projects are high due to inflation, interest rates are higher, supply chains experiencing delays as well as higher prices. China in the grip of a major and uncontrollable Covid outbreak, the US will be affected by the Reb’s in Congress and Dem’s in the Senate, higher energy prices affecting manufacturing due to the war in Ukraine and so on and so on.

You could also say we have avoided the big rises and falls other lithium companies like PLS, LTR, CXO etc have experienced.

That’s the glass half full approach…. I take a more realistic approach but my point is the more relevant information on here, the more it provides a level playing field and opportunity for less experienced investors to learn.

Having said all that, I am going to add a few things that are meant to provide a base point for others to consider. It’s how I consider our situation, and might be close to right and equally close to wrong but it’s my current base point, and no doubt the smart and the cunning and the unscrupulous investors have varying opinions around this

…. Now fuck me, after all that waffling I’ve nearly forgotten what that base point is!!

I don’t necessarily trust Felix or Marius or Lukusa. I would not be surprised if Felix didn’t give a shit who has ownership in Dathcom as long as it gets under construction so he can look good before the next election. I hope I am wrong, but the upside is that I still believe we will be owners in Dathcom, it’s just how much of it we own…. So hoping for the best, but just not believing the bullshit that comes from Marius and Lukusa until it becomes fact.

Base point two…. I believe we currently have $25mil left in the bank and by the time we get to arbitration we will have about $15mil in the bank so we will seriously have to start looking at capital.

You lot know me, I’ve always got something to say and the truth is I don’t want to be here and don’t want to be posting comments that are not necessarily positive, but in the end, what I believe is that investors should be on an even playing field and there shouldn’t be so much bullshit.

One thing I can think of that is positive is that the areholes who are trying to fuck us have gone quiet, and if they decided to try to use our capital situation against us, that’s something AVZ exec’s and BOD would be very aware of and should have under control

All my opinion only, and I’ll be fucked if I know why I keep putting myself through this…. Please @zeeb0t put me out of my fucken misery 😵‍💫
 
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@zeeb0t ball bags stays.......

 
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All this swearing is making me blush.
 
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Here I go again with the old “Last post for the day hopefully”

I really don’t like being on here tying up the threads day in, day out but I have to say a few things to all the TSE readers

Firstly I realise it’s probably not the best thing to be using profanity here so often but it began in frustration (for many of us) and ended up being a source of fun that may or may not have gone to far, but I hope anyone who is constantly offended at least acknowledges that most of it comes from poster’s here that provide a lot of information and of course I’m aware that there are also more dignified posters. I just wanted to acknowledge that before moving on.

Secondly, an important reason for providing information here (that isn’t acknowledged) is that it provides less experienced shareholders with information to help provide a level playing field.

By that I mean, there are institutional and other investors that are more aware of what’s happening in and around companies (including those short seller arsewipes) that will try and manipulate stocks through any means possible.

Boatman is one example, the scam class action is another…. and yet another is Morgan Stanley, who will put out a report saying the price of lithium will go down (or EV sales will fall etc) right before they buy a whole lot of shares in lithium companies. Then they will put out another report saying the opposite when they want to do the opposite.

When stocks change indexes (eg going into the ASX200 and ASX100) skullduggery arises again in a different form, as big funds are forced into buying. If AVZ succeeds we could go into the ASX top 50 companies.

So many things for investors to consider, so making the playing field more even for everyone is important. Knowledge is important.

One could say we have picked the perfect time to be in suspension…. The global economy has slowed and growth will slow even further. The biggest economies in the world are facing recession.

Prices to construct projects are high due to inflation, interest rates are higher, supply chains experiencing delays as well as higher prices. China in the grip of a major and uncontrollable Covid outbreak, the US will be affected by the Reb’s in Congress and Dem’s in the Senate, higher energy prices affecting manufacturing due to the war in Ukraine and so on and so on.

You could also say we have avoided the big rises and falls other lithium companies like PLS, LTR, CXO etc have experienced.

That’s the glass half full approach…. I take a more realistic approach but my point is the more relevant information on here, the more it provides a level playing field and opportunity for less experienced investors to learn.

Having said all that, I am going to add a few things that are meant to provide a base point for others to consider. It’s how I consider our situation, and might be close to right and equally close to wrong but it’s my current base point, and no doubt the smart and the cunning and the unscrupulous investors have varying opinions around this

…. Now fuck me, after all that waffling I’ve nearly forgotten what that base point is!!

I don’t necessarily trust Felix or Marius or Lukusa. I would not be surprised if Felix didn’t give a shit who has ownership in Dathcom as long as it gets under construction so he can look good before the next election. I hope I am wrong, but the upside is that I still believe we will be owners in Dathcom, it’s just how much of it we own…. So hoping for the best, but just not believing the bullshit that comes from Marius and Lukusa until it becomes fact.

Base point two…. I believe we currently have $25mil left in the bank and by the time we get to arbitration we will have about $15mil in the bank so we will seriously have to start looking at capital.

You lot know me, I’ve always got something to say and the truth is I don’t want to be here and don’t want to be posting comments that are not necessarily positive, but in the end, what I believe is that investors should be on an even playing field and there shouldn’t be so much bullshit.

One thing I can think of that is positive is that the areholes who are trying to fuck us have gone quiet, and if they decided to try to use our capital situation against us, that’s something AVZ exec’s and BOD would be very aware of and should have under control

All my opinion only, and I’ll be fucked if I know why I keep putting myself through this…. Please @zeeb0t put me out of my fucken misery 😵‍💫
 
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