Jacob Kiraz
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Looks that way what a embarassment shit show AVZ
AVZ Discussion 2022
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I agree with your post , Nigel deserves his salary , difficult gig to say the least, $50m options to incentivise a result, but cash balance is tight, BOD should be trimmed to bare basics, Nigel, Clarke, Cohen plus lawyers STAY.........the rest go !
survival is the name of the game right now........imo
We are all stuck in this mess together, yes true, we are all salty, why wouldnt we be ?This thread has become absolute crud. Rather than decent discussion, its just pissed off punters who had a crack at making multiples and are stuck and salty.
I’m one of them, with several hundred k thrown in around 40-50c.
I took a gamble in a well known shithole with a resource that was always in retrospect going to be targeted by less governed entities. My fault, I blame nobody else for where that money sits.
But I for one am enjoying the silence right now, to me itmeans progress. Nigel has my full support, as any alternative is goodnight in my view.
But completely disagree with you about this thread being absolute crud.........lots of information still supplied by the faithful which i really appreciate and respect for one another is still high despite the obvious doom and gloom.
Absolute crud = HC AVZ thread, what would you prefer ?
Hodlandwin69
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I wonder if those new board members are even doing anything.....
collecting a salary?
I do support current mgmt and board, its our only hope, self interest is also a great motivator and nige has 50m little bits of self interest to get an outcome. However all this silence is awfully convenient, they're not exactly being held accountable to anyone. The cynic in me says we only we an update when the mmga fuckers make some noise forcing them to provide an update. The last company update was just over a month ago where they stated advanced talks on funding, mou discussions, and realisation of value opportunities being explored, etc. I understand things take time but its time they gave an update.
I'd be wrapped to get out of this with a $1 TO offer, I kind of thing it'll be far less. I'm sure we've all noticed its the worse time to be negotiating a lithium deal and the mine is located in the drc, so difficult for me to see anywhere near fair value being reached. sometimes you have to cut your losses and run, no doubt the slimey zijin scum is banking on that. yes there is a financial cost to all of this but there is also a mental health and emotional toll, I think the majority would say they've had enough and its time to get out. Of course if you're in the inner circle getting updates and collecting a salary out of avz, I tend to think it'll be a lot easier to ride this out, however I'm personally sick of being a fucking mushroom and want some of my fucking dollars back.
happy saturday
Samus
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RHyNO
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Nice and while I’m not on the best BOD on the ASX scene. Got to admit the less pale members less Perth members of the board is excellent strategy and takes consideration and insight from the big guy. Let’s hope his reward is becoming a billionaire so we can have him replace Forrest as the face of successful Australian mining.
They've already served a purpose taking votes at the last AGM.
Cumquat Cap
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Pressure is on big time
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Better late than never, but i did say i would script a letter to ....
www.whitehouse.gov
many moons ago regards to AVZ plight, so here is what i have come up with.
To whom it may concern,
First of all, would like to commend the crititical mineral pact that has been initiated between the US & Australia, climate change is a massive threat to our way of life and for generations to come if action is not taken, reading between the lines, its also vital to create alternative supply chains away from China who control many of the critical mineral sectors for their own selfish reasons, not necessarily sharing our values to collaborate for the betterment of the global climate as a whole.
So with that thought process in mind, i will get to the point of my correspondence.
Are you aware of the desperate plight of an australian explorer AVZ ?
In case you are not, AVZ discovered and defined a enormous deposit of lithium in the district of Manono, DRC.
Currently the resource size is 840 million tonnes, grade 1.6% open in all directions from surface of the ground, its purported that the true size of the deposit if fully explored and defined could be in the realm of 1.5 - 3 billion tonnes, equivalent to 30%+ of the worlds supply.
Here is a bubble chart to support what i convey, albeit the bubble chart is old and doesnt truly display the current definition.
Unfortunately, just prior to receiving a mining licence, AVZ progress was brought to a sudden halt, via the corrupted entity of Cominiere ( a instrument of the DRC govt ) and the equally corrupted Zijin Mining group which is a state owned enterprise of China . They are attempting to steal the project and subsequently, AVZ have been forced into voluntary suspension for the last 2 yrs from the ASX and recently de registered.
They are fighting a lone hand attempting to fight off the steal of the century via ICSID & ICC arbitration.
Here is a article that succinctly describes the dire plight of AVZ.
thewest.com.au
AVZ have a very strong case to win the arbitration cases ( they have already had many preliminary victories ) but unfortunately are running out of funds, which is what China is counting on. ICC & ICSID arbitration cases takes a long time to determine a verdict, could be years, funding that course of time AVZ dont have without external assistance
If China successfully steals the Manono lithium deposit, they effectively control the lithium sector world wide to their own advantage, like they do with rare earths, nickle, copper, cobalt etc.
Now by my research, the US is very keen to collaborate with the DRC / Africa via this initiative..
www.uschamber.com
No doubt with a view to get a foot in the door to access the vast critical minerals they have to offer which at the moment, only China is taking advantage of via their long term presence and influence over 30 years or more.
So in conclusion, if you were not aware of this dire situation, you are now, so it begs the question, could the US assist AVZ in some way in its ongoing geopolitical fight to retain its right to mine the manono lithium deposit ?
This is a enormous deposit which would greatly enhance the critical mineral pact intitiative that has been enacted between US & Australia.
Alternatively, would the US contemplate a take over for AVZ ( Albermarle springs to mind ) to ensure the enormous lithium deposit stays outside of China control ? Possible leveredge in return for the Lobito initiative ?
Other thoughts could be a bi partisan ( US & Australia ) diplomatic mission to provide DRC govt an alternative investment thesis against the back drop of the corrupt business practices of China, whos only goal is to rape and pillage DRC vast mineral capacity for self gain , with little care given to the economic or environmental welfare of the DRC.
After all, despite DRC vast mineral wealth, they still remain one of the poorest countries in the world with a severe lack of infastructure to show for it........yes , internal corruption remains rife and certainly has played a part in their demise, but its also a fact that the investment dollars received by China isnt cutting the mustard so to speak.
There is evidence from the newly re elected DRC govt to change their endemic corrupt practices and seek alternative foreign investment to improve their way of life, so it presents a great opportunity for the US / Australia to provide a alternative vision.
I am not naive to the fact that the US has alot on its plate at the moment far more important than the plight of AVZ and the possibility of China taking control of yet another critical mineral sector regards to lithium ( upcoming US election, ongoing war regards to Israel / Hamas / Palestine and Ukraine / Russia etc etc )... but if there is any way that my correspondence could garner a reply in any capacity, it would be greatly appreciated !
Kind Regards
So there it is folks, i leave this letter in your hands for critique, if everyone is satisfied as to the content and articulation , i will go ahead and send, if any one else wishes to copy and paste and send to other authorities such as US DOE, FIRB, DOISR Australia or other......be my guest. @Carlos Danger , @Dave Evans , @TheCount , @Samus , @cruiser51 , @Flexi any other twitter warrior springs to mind...
Just doing my little bit to aid the AVZ cause, it may not eventuate to anything but at this stage of the game, "nothing ventured, nothing gained"
cheers
Australia-United States Climate, Critical Minerals and Clean Energy Transformation Compact | The White House
Australia and the United States commit to enhance bilateral cooperation under a Climate, Critical Minerals and Clean Energy Transformation Compact (the
many moons ago regards to AVZ plight, so here is what i have come up with.
To whom it may concern,
First of all, would like to commend the crititical mineral pact that has been initiated between the US & Australia, climate change is a massive threat to our way of life and for generations to come if action is not taken, reading between the lines, its also vital to create alternative supply chains away from China who control many of the critical mineral sectors for their own selfish reasons, not necessarily sharing our values to collaborate for the betterment of the global climate as a whole.
So with that thought process in mind, i will get to the point of my correspondence.
Are you aware of the desperate plight of an australian explorer AVZ ?
In case you are not, AVZ discovered and defined a enormous deposit of lithium in the district of Manono, DRC.
Currently the resource size is 840 million tonnes, grade 1.6% open in all directions from surface of the ground, its purported that the true size of the deposit if fully explored and defined could be in the realm of 1.5 - 3 billion tonnes, equivalent to 30%+ of the worlds supply.
Here is a bubble chart to support what i convey, albeit the bubble chart is old and doesnt truly display the current definition.
Unfortunately, just prior to receiving a mining licence, AVZ progress was brought to a sudden halt, via the corrupted entity of Cominiere ( a instrument of the DRC govt ) and the equally corrupted Zijin Mining group which is a state owned enterprise of China . They are attempting to steal the project and subsequently, AVZ have been forced into voluntary suspension for the last 2 yrs from the ASX and recently de registered.
They are fighting a lone hand attempting to fight off the steal of the century via ICSID & ICC arbitration.
Here is a article that succinctly describes the dire plight of AVZ.
The curious case of AVZ, the Congo and the biggest lithium deposit on the planet
The fight over AVZ Minerals’ mega-lithium deposit in the DRC conjures up images of the whacky Cantina bar scene in Star Wars. A recent court ruling, however, may have reset the playing field in AVZ’s favour.
thewest.com.au
AVZ have a very strong case to win the arbitration cases ( they have already had many preliminary victories ) but unfortunately are running out of funds, which is what China is counting on. ICC & ICSID arbitration cases takes a long time to determine a verdict, could be years, funding that course of time AVZ dont have without external assistance
If China successfully steals the Manono lithium deposit, they effectively control the lithium sector world wide to their own advantage, like they do with rare earths, nickle, copper, cobalt etc.
Now by my research, the US is very keen to collaborate with the DRC / Africa via this initiative..
Africa's Lobito Corridor Railway Provides Huge International Opportunity
The Lobito Corridor could be Africa's most important railway and will likely unlock growth across three African countries and beyond.
No doubt with a view to get a foot in the door to access the vast critical minerals they have to offer which at the moment, only China is taking advantage of via their long term presence and influence over 30 years or more.
So in conclusion, if you were not aware of this dire situation, you are now, so it begs the question, could the US assist AVZ in some way in its ongoing geopolitical fight to retain its right to mine the manono lithium deposit ?
This is a enormous deposit which would greatly enhance the critical mineral pact intitiative that has been enacted between US & Australia.
Alternatively, would the US contemplate a take over for AVZ ( Albermarle springs to mind ) to ensure the enormous lithium deposit stays outside of China control ? Possible leveredge in return for the Lobito initiative ?
Other thoughts could be a bi partisan ( US & Australia ) diplomatic mission to provide DRC govt an alternative investment thesis against the back drop of the corrupt business practices of China, whos only goal is to rape and pillage DRC vast mineral capacity for self gain , with little care given to the economic or environmental welfare of the DRC.
After all, despite DRC vast mineral wealth, they still remain one of the poorest countries in the world with a severe lack of infastructure to show for it........yes , internal corruption remains rife and certainly has played a part in their demise, but its also a fact that the investment dollars received by China isnt cutting the mustard so to speak.
There is evidence from the newly re elected DRC govt to change their endemic corrupt practices and seek alternative foreign investment to improve their way of life, so it presents a great opportunity for the US / Australia to provide a alternative vision.
I am not naive to the fact that the US has alot on its plate at the moment far more important than the plight of AVZ and the possibility of China taking control of yet another critical mineral sector regards to lithium ( upcoming US election, ongoing war regards to Israel / Hamas / Palestine and Ukraine / Russia etc etc )... but if there is any way that my correspondence could garner a reply in any capacity, it would be greatly appreciated !
Kind Regards
So there it is folks, i leave this letter in your hands for critique, if everyone is satisfied as to the content and articulation , i will go ahead and send, if any one else wishes to copy and paste and send to other authorities such as US DOE, FIRB, DOISR Australia or other......be my guest. @Carlos Danger , @Dave Evans , @TheCount , @Samus , @cruiser51 , @Flexi any other twitter warrior springs to mind...
Just doing my little bit to aid the AVZ cause, it may not eventuate to anything but at this stage of the game, "nothing ventured, nothing gained"
cheers
Jacob Kiraz
Member
Where got nothing mate ABZ Not looking good for shareholdersBetter late than never, but i did say i would script a letter to ....
Australia-United States Climate, Critical Minerals and Clean Energy Transformation Compact | The White House
Australia and the United States commit to enhance bilateral cooperation under a Climate, Critical Minerals and Clean Energy Transformation Compact (the
many moons ago regards to AVZ plight, so here is what i have come up with.
To whom it may concern,
First of all, would like to commend the crititical mineral pact that has been initiated between the US & Australia, climate change is a massive threat to our way of life and for generations to come if action is not taken, reading between the lines, its also vital to create alternative supply chains away from China who control many of the critical mineral sectors for their own selfish reasons, not necessarily sharing our values to collaborate for the betterment of the global climate as a whole.
So with that thought process in mind, i will get to the point of my correspondence.
Are you aware of the desperate plight of an australian explorer AVZ ?
In case you are not, AVZ discovered and defined a enormous deposit of lithium in the district of Manono, DRC.
Currently the resource size is 840 million tonnes, grade 1.6% open in all directions from surface of the ground, its purported that the true size of the deposit if fully explored and defined could be in the realm of 1.5 - 3 billion tonnes, equivalent to 30%+ of the worlds supply.
Here is a bubble chart to support what i convey, albeit the bubble chart is old and doesnt truly display the current definition.
View attachment 67196
Unfortunately, just prior to receiving a mining licence, AVZ progress was brought to a sudden halt, via the corrupted entity of Cominiere ( a instrument of the DRC govt ) and the equally corrupted Zijin Mining group which is a state owned enterprise of China . They are attempting to steal the project and subsequently, AVZ have been forced into voluntary suspension for the last 2 yrs from the ASX and recently de registered.
They are fighting a lone hand attempting to fight off the steal of the century via ICSID & ICC arbitration.
Here is a article that succinctly describes the dire plight of AVZ.
The curious case of AVZ, the Congo and the biggest lithium deposit on the planet
The fight over AVZ Minerals’ mega-lithium deposit in the DRC conjures up images of the whacky Cantina bar scene in Star Wars. A recent court ruling, however, may have reset the playing field in AVZ’s favour.
AVZ have a very strong case to win the arbitration cases ( they have already had many preliminary victories ) but unfortunately are running out of funds, which is what China is counting on. ICC & ICSID arbitration cases takes a long time to determine a verdict, could be years, funding that course of time AVZ dont have without external assistance
If China successfully steals the Manono lithium deposit, they effectively control the lithium sector world wide to their own advantage, like they do with rare earths, nickle, copper, cobalt etc.
Now by my research, the US is very keen to collaborate with the DRC / Africa via this initiative..
Africa's Lobito Corridor Railway Provides Huge International Opportunity
The Lobito Corridor could be Africa's most important railway and will likely unlock growth across three African countries and beyond.
No doubt with a view to get a foot in the door to access the vast critical minerals they have to offer which at the moment, only China is taking advantage of via their long term presence and influence over 30 years or more.
So in conclusion, if you were not aware of this dire situation, you are now, so it begs the question, could the US assist AVZ in some way in its ongoing geopolitical fight to retain its right to mine the manono lithium deposit ?
This is a enormous deposit which would greatly enhance the critical mineral pact intitiative that has been enacted between US & Australia.
Alternatively, would the US contemplate a take over for AVZ ( Albermarle springs to mind ) to ensure the enormous lithium deposit stays outside of China control ? Possible leveredge in return for the Lobito initiative ?
Other thoughts could be a bi partisan ( US & Australia ) diplomatic mission to provide DRC govt an alternative investment thesis against the back drop of the corrupt business practices of China, whos only goal is to rape and pillage DRC vast mineral capacity for self gain , with little care given to the economic or environmental welfare of the DRC.
After all, despite DRC vast mineral wealth, they still remain one of the poorest countries in the world with a severe lack of infastructure to show for it........yes , internal corruption remains rife and certainly has played a part in their demise, but its also a fact that the investment dollars received by China isnt cutting the mustard so to speak.
There is evidence from the newly re elected DRC govt to change their endemic corrupt practices and seek alternative foreign investment to improve their way of life, so it presents a great opportunity for the US / Australia to provide a alternative vision.
I am not naive to the fact that the US has alot on its plate at the moment far more important than the plight of AVZ and the possibility of China taking control of yet another critical mineral sector regards to lithium ( upcoming US election, ongoing war regards to Israel / Hamas / Palestine and Ukraine / Russia etc etc )... but if there is any way that my correspondence could garner a reply in any capacity, it would be greatly appreciated !
Kind Regards
So there it is folks, i leave this letter in your hands for critique, if everyone is satisfied as to the content and articulation , i will go ahead and send, if any one else wishes to copy and paste and send to other authorities such as US DOE, FIRB, DOISR Australia or other......be my guest. @Carlos Danger , @Dave Evans , @TheCount , @Samus , @cruiser51 , @Flexi any other twitter warrior springs to mind...
Just doing my little bit to aid the AVZ cause, it may not eventuate to anything but at this stage of the game, "nothing ventured, nothing gained"
cheers
RHyNO
Regular
Unfortunately X will achieve absolutely sweet fuck all. Look at all the posts by our PM and Dutton. The comments are a wash of allegations and absolute bullshit. They simply ignore it. As DRC politicians will. Posting on X is like writing a letter to the president, burning it and hoping the carbon will re Align in their office while they are signing something else. It’s does absolutely fuck all. It’s the methodone to hopium. Nigel and his team are our only hope. If he’s not a liar or incompetent, he could actually save the billions he’s lost.
Spikerama
Regular
I would argue that it is not necessarily for them but rather the people who visit their feeds. Like the general DRC punters but more so external nation investors and politicians. Which is why I never try and engage the owners of the feeds. I feel its better to not give them a single opportunity try and counter.
Let's face it. There's nothing worse than being in a room full of people talking about you but not to you.
If my calculations are correct , the already overdue announcement re the Locke extension will hit this coming week . I'll go with Wednesday , with an outside chance we get a announcement tomorrow . IMO
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