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[Schnitzel lover]

I’d put some charts up, but most don’t really seem to contribute to that area on here and things get lost in the wilderness due to inactivity..

 

[Pom down under]

Vote yes for remuneration at AGM.. Your BODs need an orderly non-disruptive process to get on with the job..

And for all those partners out there joining the Ecosystem, put your money where your mouth is and sign an IP deal with Brainchip..

 

[Pom down under]

I’d put some charts up, but most don’t really seem to contribute to that area on here and things get lost in the wilderness due to inactivity..

 

[Okeydokey01]

Would be nice but I don’t give too much credit on Benz. We have other partners with more potential for mass production. Small devices which will be available to more people. For daily use and so on.

While I agree that other partners may have more potential for mass production. The strength of the Mercedes Benz brand will put a rocket under the SP once things start moving. It will shine a light on our company and technology and create buyer demand within the stock market.

My hope is that the timing of this coincides with us starting to see other partners and customers delivering revenue within a similar time frame. It will be this revenue stream or more importantly growth in revenue qtr on qtr that will really provide the fuel for the SP to reach its full potential.
Mercedes will bring it front of mind for the investing market and the ongoing revenue from the ecosystem we are developing will smash it out of the park over the subsequent months and years.

At least that's my hope on how things play out and the reason I am invested.

 

[Pom down under]

As much as I hate to our SP get smashed, but on a personal perspective I’d be more than happy for the price to stay at this until my super clears shortly.

 

[7für7]

While I agree that other partners may have more potential for mass production. The strength of the Mercedes Benz brand will put a rocket under the SP once things start moving. It will shine a light on our company and technology and create buyer demand within the stock market.

My hope is that the timing of this coincides with us starting to see other partners and customers delivering revenue within a similar time frame. It will be this revenue stream or more importantly growth in revenue qtr on qtr that will really provide the fuel for the SP to reach its full potential.
Mercedes will bring it front of mind for the investing market and the ongoing revenue from the ecosystem we are developing will smash it out of the park over the subsequent months and years.

At least that's my hope on how things play out and the reason I am invested.

It’s good to hope, but as I said, better don’t count on Mercedes, otherwise you will be disappointed. I think a realistic use of akida in the Benz cars will start around the 2026.. until then, my focus will be the other partners just my opinion! Mercedes will for now decide to use already proven technology… I don’t think they will risk an image damage and\or huge recall campaign

 

[Pom down under]

It’s good to hope, but as I said, better don’t count on Mercedes, otherwise you will be disappointed. I think a realistic use of akida in the Benz cars will start around the 2026.. until then, my focus will be the other partners just my opinion! Mercedes will for now decide to use already proven technology… I don’t think they will risk an image damage and\or huge recall campaign

 

[Fact Finder]

I would take that with a grain of salt. "Might not be" coming from a university professor who oversees university projects funded by Intel.

The entire Open Neuromorphic community are super pro Loihi because it's Intel and are always on the look out for positions or funding from the big companies. The founder recently joined Qualcomm for example.

Keep listening past your cherry picked 32 minute section through to around the 40 minute mark. Glowing comments around akida, the ease of use, quick set up to convert CNN to SNN using MetaTF, boiler plate using edge impulse and the exceptional results.

There's a section in there where he mentioned they came second place in the hackathon and the part that the judges particularly liked was the fact they presented a $3,500 option as well as a $100 option. They go on to agree akida can be implemented at a significantly reduced price point to other technologies.

They also say results on Akida are "orders of magnitude better" when comparing to CPU platforms and there's also a question from one of the listeners around the fact akida is digital so (paraphrasing heavily here) is there any point in having asynchronous chips or analog anymore. I couldn't fully understand the discussion potentially due to a technical gap in my knowledge but also their English. Seemed to me they were discussing whether akida would make some chips redundant (why bother with them type attitude when akida is digital and power consumption results are so exceptional).

The presenter also mentions they didn't have accuracy improvements on existing technology but they also didn't spend time adjusting the code and the dataset so putting accuracy aside the power consumption results are very strong arguments for akida technology.

Strongly recommend people give this video a listen as it is a good indication of feedback from someone in the wild implementing akida and then discussing their findings.

FWIW I'm only about 40 minutes in so there could be more good or bad feedback I have not yet heard.

Hi Sera2g
Great summary. I noticed that to the right was the questions being asked by the audience and I was particularly taken by this series of questions by Gregor Lenz a prolific researcher who does a lot of stuff for NASA and Intel/Loihi. I have reproduced the questions but just his questions are gold. The answers are white gold but you will have to listen:

Gregor LenzWas this deployed to Akida? In MetaTF, you train conventional, non-spiking networks, and then convert post-training, is that correct?

Justin R

On a RASPBERRY ??

Justin R

Open NeuromorphicThanks for joining everyone!!

Please like

! It will help the video reach more people!

Gregor LenzWhats the input data like? Is it frames at fixed frequency or frames at fixed event count?

Gregor Lenzyou re saying 5W for Akida + Raspberry Pi, do you know how much power each board used?

bithighdoes spiking neural networks works only with event based cameras?

bithighprofessor anxie gave awesome lectures in THI

Wojciech Rogala

Justin R

Hi @Wojciech Rogala

Gregor Lenz If a synchronous edge chip that exploits sparsity like Akida burns just 5mW, is there a point of event-based, asynchronous systems?

bithighdo you think writing custom IP cores in HDL worths the effort for implementing custom snn?

zanz Use cases are huge!

I have highlighted the gold question which is answered by the presenter and the last response by 'znanz' is in line with the gentleman who appeared on the podcasts with Nandan from Infineon and Edge Impulse.

My opinion only DYOR
Fact Finder

 

[7für7]

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[7für7]

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[DingoBorat]

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[Luppo71]

Over Xmas @Luppo71 and I held a secret Brainchip meeting and we were the only ones to show up. I was quite disappointed as I was expecting Sean and TD to turn up.

Maybe a little too hush, hush.
We'll know next time, we'll get Elon to promote it.

 

[Okeydokey01]

It’s good to hope, but as I said, better don’t count on Mercedes, otherwise you will be disappointed. I think a realistic use of akida in the Benz cars will start around the 2026.. until then, my focus will be the other partners just my opinion! Mercedes will for now decide to use already proven technology… I don’t think they will risk an image damage and\or huge recall campaign

You have missed my point.

It is not when Mercedes will start to deliver vehicles with Akida inside but more so once they come out and publicly confirm ongoing partnership and integration (as they have at CES with Nvidia) that will provide the catalyst for the initial movement in the SP. They have already advised that later this year they will be deciding "on a partner" to further develop their AI technology.

Regarding using already proven technology. We will have to also disagree here. I believe that Mercedes has been working to qualify our product and company over the last two years. Prior to this and their public announcement they would have already satisfied themselves to a large degree on the robustness, quality and reliability of our tech. It is my opinion that we are already well and truly "proven" in the eyes of Mercedes.

Of course this is all in my opinion and I may be wrong. Only time will provide the answer.

 

[Pom down under]

Is there something more mature you have to say? Or are you just a kid with cash from dad? Ask for a friend

 

[Fact Finder]

Actually I don’t think it needs that much training, in some use cases it may not need training at all - just a bit of configuration and an input stream to learn from.

This point you make about training is by itself a reason to watch this presentation as the moderator's reaction to how quickly the presenter trained AKIDA using the Edge Impulse platform and Meta TF is white gold:

https://www.youtube.com/live/W9JTcTJ4eBU?si=To2EEjhqZmz9UpF9

(Sorry had put up the wrong link. Hopefully this time.)

My opinion only DYOR
Fact Finder

 

[7für7]

You have missed my point.

It is not when Mercedes will start to deliver vehicles with Akida inside but more so once they come out and publicly confirm ongoing partnership and integration (as they have at CES with Nvidia) that will provide the catalyst for the initial movement in the SP. They have already advised that later this year they will be deciding "on a partner" to further develop their AI technology.

Regarding using already proven technology. We will have to also disagree here. I believe that Mercedes has been working to qualify our product and company over the last two years. Prior to this and their public announcement they would have already satisfied themselves to a large degree on the robustness, quality and reliability of our tech. It is my opinion that we are already well and truly "proven" in the eyes of Mercedes.

Of course this is all in my opinion and I may be wrong. Only time will provide the answer.

Hope your point of view is right. I just know how the Germans work and understand their way of talking on business matters. Every culture have its own way of expressing their steps of developing. I’m sure they see huge potential in akida.

And as i said, I just don’t give too much attention on Benz. That’s all…

 

[Moonshot]

Hi Sera2g
Great summary. I noticed that to the right was the questions being asked by the audience and I was particularly taken by this series of questions by Gregor Lenz a prolific researcher who does a lot of stuff for NASA and Intel/Loihi. I have reproduced the questions but just his questions are gold. The answers are white gold but you will have to listen:

Gregor LenzWas this deployed to Akida? In MetaTF, you train conventional, non-spiking networks, and then convert post-training, is that correct?

Justin R

On a RASPBERRY ??

Justin R

Open NeuromorphicThanks for joining everyone!!

Please like

! It will help the video reach more people!

Gregor LenzWhats the input data like? Is it frames at fixed frequency or frames at fixed event count?

Gregor Lenzyou re saying 5W for Akida + Raspberry Pi, do you know how much power each board used?

bithighdoes spiking neural networks works only with event based cameras?

bithighprofessor anxie gave awesome lectures in THI

Wojciech Rogala

Justin R

Hi @Wojciech Rogala

Gregor Lenz If a synchronous edge chip that exploits sparsity like Akida burns just 5mW, is there a point of event-based, asynchronous systems?

bithighdo you think writing custom IP cores in HDL worths the effort for implementing custom snn?

zanz Use cases are huge!

I have highlighted the gold question which is answered by the presenter and the last response by 'znanz' is in line with the gentleman who appeared on the podcasts with Nandan from Infineon and Edge Impulse.

My opinion only DYOR
Fact Finder

Great summaries, would also note Gregor is ex Synsense…

 

[Schnitzel lover]

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Yeah me again Mr Pommy Johnson..

 

[Schnitzel lover]

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Worth its weight in gold the last two years if ya managed to have the slightest clue about TA

 

[Schnitzel lover]

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Probably a correct piece of what your calling him, Pommy Memester..