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Spikerama

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I've created a monster🤭

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Guys come on we need stop this kind of stuff now.

It's derogatory and offensive and certainly not helping our cause.

You don't need to photoshop stuff or create monsters like this. All the facts are there. Just think of interesting ways to draw attention to them without resorting to cheap tricks like this.

My advice would be to remove this immediately before it gets in the wrong hands.
 
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BEISHA

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If the MMGA goons (Massive Money Grubbing Arseholes) have enough votes to vote themselves up then by corollary they have enough votes to vote everyone else down

Why Deboss keeps muddying the waters rather than listen to management on how to vote is beyond me

The outcome we want is NO MMGA goons at all and our FIVE board endorsed nominees to get a seat at the table (2 re-elected + the 3 recently appointed and having to nominate)

It's simple and management have clearly advised how they want you to vote
I am not sure why you or anyone else is fixated on DEBOSS...........he is a farken clown who knows nothing more than anyone else and using his 40m shares and possibly advising his chiro bum chum ( 20m shares ) to go against what the BOD endorses......thats in the fuckwit category if you asked me !!

I got my " HOW TO VOTE CARD " in the mail yesterday, just for anyone who is still confused by what is a very straight forward process, I will quote from the horses mouth....

"BOARD ENDORSED CANDIDATES ...........are Graeme Johnston, Dr John Clarke, Dr Casta Tungaraza, Serge Ngandu and her exellency Salome Sijaona. Your support for the board endorsed candidates is a vote for stability and progress"

"What has beren communicated to your board is that, if elected, FAT TAIL NOMINEES would pursue a strategy that would not be capable of implementation and, even if it were capable of implementation, would see a material destruction in value for shareholders, with this value being transferred to various foreign state and non state backed agencies.

So why anyone would be fool hardy to vote for anyone outside of the board endorsed candidates is beyond me...

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And you know what ?

You dont even have to tick any boxes, cause its all been done for you, just sign your name, state your email address , contact details , date and post it to AUTOMIC, GPO BOX 5193, SYDNEY, NSW 2001

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I want to clarify ONE MORE THING beside not on Tinder and MMAGGOT's approved list, I am not in my 50s .... yet....

So, that 50+ love, I do welcome and appreciate but I want to be honest and upfront unlike the MMAGGOTs...

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Nothing wrong with older Women or Men pending which way you swing 🤓😛Checked my junk mail …fucking boring compared to yours 🤷‍♂️😐
 
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Remark

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From this announcement it looks like Nigel is folding under pressure. A "negotiated resolution"?

I can't believe they are actually considering this.

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Doc

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From this announcement it looks like Nigel is folding under pressure. A "negotiated resolution"?

I can't believe they are actually considering this.

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If it moves things forward and saves 6 - 12 months I'm all for a resolution
 
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Winenut

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Winenut

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It "feels" like there is some wiggle room in the negotiations????

Might be positive progress
 
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Pokok

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I want to clarify ONE MORE THING beside not on Tinder and MMAGGOT's approved list, I am not in my 50s .... yet....

So, that 50+ love, I do welcome and appreciate but I want to be honest and upfront unlike the MMAGGOTs...

Seth Meyers Ugh GIF by Late Night with Seth Meyers
Maya Rudolph Yes GIF by NETFLIX
sorry i started this off but im 64 any attention i can get is appreciated :D
 
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wombat74

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A lot to digest there....but the amount of detail and clarity is good to have for a change

That last line is the weirdest though....

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Kind of makes Fat Tail's role redundant now .
 
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Cumquat Cap

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I’ve always hoped they give Dathomir an extra 10 or 20 to exit stage left, upon receipt of the mining license mind you. Maybe the MoU is getting closer and they’re now dangling a carrot out to Cong to negotiate?

Also, makes MMGA redundant also which is great. Cong has never been overtly corrupt against $svz (although I’m sure he has been elsewhere) but more stubborn and seeking to waste time noting he has no legal standing.

Interesting times
 
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TDITD

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Like we have all surmised in the past, its quite clear and obvious Dathomir have fuck all chance with their joke of a claim (on its own merits).
So in true corrupt fashion Simon Cong cooked up some B.S to pass muster in the kangaroo courts of the DRC, brown paper bags included, all to enable him to apply pressure to AVZ. In isolation this is easy to deal with and is no real issue, but it's not in isolation and we are upto our necks in corruption flavoured shit.

Cong may, may just have possibly started out with buyers remorse and wanting more $$, however its clear now he is working in cahoots with Cominiere and Zijin to throw as much mud as possible AVZ's way. Would an extra $10M shut him up now?

I don't know but I sure as fuck want the BOD to know and be prepared to fuck him off if his motives are simply more $$. The fact he joined in with the Corrupt assholes could simply be he wants more $$ and if he gets that he is happy to walk (imo unlikely at this stage but possible). Simon Cong has never been one for the limelight and this has very likely put him in the spotlight more than he is comfortable with.

This announcement could also serve as an update to inform holders and acknowledge we are prepared to deal with the cretins knowing full well Cong isn't interested in that as his motives are now CCP aligned, anticipating MMGA are full of shit and closing off an angle of BS for their propaganda.

This latest ANN highlights the need for action from the Government in the DRC. AVZ have been fighting ridiculous corruption for too long while Cominiere and Zijin act with impunity. Lets hope progress is indeed being made within our Government talks, do the right thing PR05.

Come on Nige & team!!!


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Winenut

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Kind of makes Fat Tail's role redundant now .
Yeah ...it's sort of a simple...."we're already getting on with the job (and have been) so you're irrelevant"
 
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Dave Evans

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Thanks for posting that TC. Now that AVZ has provided that additional information here you can bet there will still be those shareholders who won’t even read it and will be whining again in a week or month or whenever that AVZ hasn’t communicated with shareholders.

AVZ has provided so much information to shareholders since we went into suspension that anyone who actually read it all should understood what and why information has and hasn’t been disclosed previously

As far as everyone sending the MMGA email with their proposal to spam or the bin, I opened it up, read it and made dot points of all the lies and misinformation in it to use against them
 
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LOCKY82

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Great to see a sh being interviewed!
But man that presenter on the far rights fidgety eyes were giving me anxiety 😅
Good to hear them chat about it though!
 
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Scoota30

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Really sounds like we are getting close to a resolution now. The ICC emergency injunctions are helping out a lot here and cannot be understated.

If the MoU still isn't sorted by the end of January and the ICC rules in favour of us against Zijin and then again against Dathomir, the DRC government really have no reason or excuse to continue this shitshow. They will have no case whatsoever against us at ICSID and will completely fuckup everything for themselves.

The recent announcements have been great at countering this MMGA falsehood. Keep them coming - next thing i want to see is this evidence of all the detractors being in cahoots!

Goes to show how well the BoD have managed this over the years, just been heartache for us SH's being held in the dark, but now seeing all of the info come to light, it was imperrative that they held it in. 👏

Edit - would love to start seeing some more public backing from either our Aus embassy or some form of Aus government, even perhaps the US or someone to take a stand now and publicly discuss this issue because all of the dirty laundry is now being aired.
 
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Spikerama

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Thanks for posting that TC. Now that AVZ has provided that additional information here you can bet there will still be those shareholders who won’t even read it and will be whining again in a week or month or whenever that AVZ hasn’t communicated with shareholders.

AVZ has provided so much information to shareholders since we went into suspension that anyone who actually read it all should understood what and why information has and hasn’t been disclosed previously

As far as everyone sending the MMGA email with their proposal to spam or the bin, I opened it up, read it and made dot points of all the lies and misinformation in it to use against them

The problem is mate, AVZ have a communication problem.
They are shit at it. And I'm not talking about the obvious "lack of" problem.

Let me elaborate.

If you look at MMGA and how they have presented their argument they have done a very good at coming across as professional and well reasoned despite what we informed shareholders know about them. Their website is slick. Their mail-outs are on brand and every bit of comms is cohesive and instantly recognisable when you see it. There is a personality there. (even though we know the personalities behind the media are nefarious ).

Additionally, the information presented is easily digested in small packages within the website or mail-outs. It's "snackable" as we say, so you don't get lost in any verbose, boring, mumbo jumbo. Very easy to scan and get the gist. Plus they do it all without personal attack or being abusive or swearing.

Now let's hop over to how AVZ do it, which is basically me copying and pasting from the above paragraph. Verbose, boring, mumbo jumbo. Basically a big TLDR every time. And yes, yes ,yes, I do get it. They need to do things this way as a requirement to shareholders but they could've also added to these releases and take a leaf out of the most basic advertising principles manual which is have a personality and keep it simple because most people don't have the bandwidth to do their own shit in the daily let alone digest reams of verbose, boring, mumbo jumbo. Especially when it looks like it has the personality of a dial tone.

I've offered to help Nigel before, via proxy and never heard a sniff back so I don't know how to solve it but what I do know is if I was an uninitiated Shareholder, who's not across the entire saga and I was trying to make sense of why I can't access my money and I get the choice of "apparently" clear, concise, visually appealing solution on a way forward > up against multi-paged A4 announcements which seems too much to understand, with no brand or personality and a bunch of potty mouthed, ALL CAPS twitter warriors seemingly aligning with them... I know which side I identify with.

AVZ really need to get with the program on comms. They've had two years to work on this and still to this day all we get is a bloody green chameleon as an offering of top notch graphics.

*as a side note I think I've worked out who is behind MMGA. Take a look at Tantalex website. Notice any similarities?
 
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Winenut

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The problem is mate, AVZ have a communication problem.
They are shit at it. And I'm not talking about the obvious "lack of" problem.

Let me elaborate.

If you look at MMGA and how they have presented their argument they have done a very good at coming across as professional and well reasoned despite what we informed shareholders know about them. Their website is slick. Their mail-outs are on brand and every bit of comms is cohesive and instantly recognisable when you see it. There is a personality there. (even though we know the personalities behind the media are nefarious ).

Additionally, the information presented is easily digested in small packages within the website or mail-outs. It's "snackable" as we say, so you don't get lost in any verbose, boring, mumbo jumbo. Very easy to scan and get the gist. Plus they do it all without personal attack or being abusive or swearing.

Now let's hop over to how AVZ do it, which is basically me copying and pasting from the above paragraph. Verbose, boring, mumbo jumbo. Basically a big TLDR every time. And yes, yes ,yes, I do get it. They need to do things this way as a requirement to shareholders but they could've also added to these releases and take a leaf out of the most basic advertising principles manual which is have a personality and keep it simple because most people don't have the bandwidth to do their own shit in the daily let alone digest reams of verbose, boring, mumbo jumbo. Especially when it looks like it has the personality of a dial tone.

I've offered to help Nigel before, via proxy and never heard a sniff back so I don't know how to solve it but what I do know is if I was an uninitiated Shareholder, who's not across the entire saga and I was trying to make sense of why I can't access my money and I get the choice of "apparently" clear, concise, visually appealing solution on a way forward > up against multi-paged A4 announcements which seems too much to understand, with no brand or personality and a bunch of potty mouthed, ALL CAPS twitter warriors seemingly aligning with them... I know which side I identify with.

AVZ really need to get with the program on comms. They've had two years to work on this and still to this day all we get is a bloody green chameleon in terms of top notch graphics.

*as a side note I think I've worked out who is behind MMGA. Take a look at Tantalex website. Notice any similarities?

"*as a side note I think I've worked out who is behind MMGA. Take a look at Tantalex website. Notice any similarities"?

The resemblance is uncanny...
 
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BigA

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I can’t help but get the feeling that a resolution to this shit show all hinges on the outcome of the upcoming AGM. If the current board retain their position and MMGA are fucked off completely, then a deal will quickly follow. God I hope so…

My reasoning is this will confirm that the current BOD won’t let this go and will win at ICC and ICSID, where as in the horrible event that MMGA get control they will sell us out. A position well articulated by other members!

So in summary let’s just hope the current BOD retain their positions as I feel it’s our only chance of an equitable resolution….

Shoutout to all the good people on this forum providing so much valuable info…I rarely post but certainly have followed daily since this thread started
 
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*as a side note I think I've worked out who is behind MMGA. Take a look at Tantalex website. Notice any similarities?

Nah.. two completely different technologies in use on 2 websites. Tantalex is on Wordpress, MMGA is on Squarespace
 
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