AVZ Discussion 2022

[BEISHA]

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Ha ha , looks likes you may have hit the bitter spot when reading half the junk we have to wade through on some of these social media platforms ; unfortunately the trolls heavily dilute the quality on these forums ; Hotshithole is totally unreadable , I rarely even login to that one these days ( one of the good things that has come from this circus ) ; TSE now has the trolls gradually squeezing through the cracks; it’s becoming a little more unreadable with every day that passes tbh .

Appreciate your continued battling and research bags ; we have all walks of life in here with various and opposing views … yourself and Deboss for example would appear to have political etc views which maybe of the opposite sides of the spectrum , but what we can agree on is the both of you and many in here are on the same side and fully support the company and want the same ending … I hear Deboss likes his happy endings ; we just need to all stick together on this one even if reading this sewer soup with a few golden nuggets mixed sends us to boil point more often than not.

I’ve basically dropped off from posting ,as reading some of the stuff particularly with some of these new characters appearing out of the blue would have me typing some Moneybag / Deboss type rants ( which does have me firing out the ‘good on ya‘ words )

Bring on the day when we get past this shit show and no longer have to go through getting our mental nerve endings torched every time we read AVZ forums which have corrupt mud with intent flowing through it .

AVZ shareholders all sail on the same boat with the same wind behind its sails at least until this shit show is done with ; most of us have been here for the last 4|5+ years , so to some extent we know whose not in the Trojan Horse within these forums … hopeful the trolls are in the belly of the brazen bull soon enough.

Keep up the good work

I agree with most of your post, but if you think any public forum is going to be pure of trolls, especially with the head winds AVZ are having to deal with, you are farken deluded....

The amount of trolls in this forum is negligible, the intel is amazing, very respectful, lots of humour under considerable financial duress for alot of posters and has community spirit, so your comment...

I’ve basically dropped off from posting ,as reading some of the stuff particularly with some of these new characters appearing out of the blue would have me typing some Moneybag / Deboss type rants ( which does have me firing out the ‘good on ya‘ words )

Reeks of a lack of comradship , stickability and being a princess when times are tough............on your part.


just sayin.


P.s Congrats to @JAG and @Frank for a well deserved victory for collingwood over the Lions !!

A cracking game of footy!

 

[BEISHA]

No they don't. They should only get it when first sod is turned and the caterers are on site and cooking. They are two very different things. ML and operating mine are not the same.

This grubby cash grab is starting to give me social media ideas. I hope it doesn't end up turning me against the company. That would be bad.

If we get the ML under the barrage of chinese and drc scum doing everything in their power to steal, then they absolutely deserve their pay check.

Where the BOD didnt deserve their pay check was the previous 2 years when their lack of disclosure was finally exposed with the suspended suspension directly after ML decree....

All imo of course.

 

[Hudnut]

BTW we also pay our politician their wages and don't forget the police, public servants and nurses plus councils.

Who is happy with the performance of our politicians? Not bloody me, I can tell you!

 

[cruiser51]

Simple question, do we have to vote on remuneration/bonuses during AGM?

Or is it a simple: "If you don't like it, fuck off"?

We normally have to vote for option/share packages.

 

[wombat74]

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You forgot COVID . I made that prediction months ago . A Covid No Show and postponed to first quartet 2024.

 

[cruiser51]

You forgot COVID . I made that prediction months ago . A Covid No Show and postponed to first quartet 20204.

That is a very fukkin long time!

 

[Carlos Danger]

If the BOD finaaaally bring home the ML.......then they deserve that bonus !

imo

No they don't. They should only get it when first sod is turned and the caterers are on site and cooking. They are two very different things. ML and operating mine are not the same.

This grubby cash grab is starting to give me social media ideas. I hope it doesn't end up turning me against the company. That would be bad.

Simple question, do we have to vote on remuneration/bonuses during AGM?

Or is it a simple: "If you don't like it, fuck off"?

We normally have to vote for option/share packages.

There are already a shit tonne of performance rights on the table as incentive for management to get the project over the line. But these were voted on whereas the cash bonuses have already been paid sometime during the financial year. I would have loved to see the vote tally at the AGM for the BoD giving themselves more money while we are burning through cash and the stock is in suspension.

 

[BEISHA]

That's a big bloody punt the greedy pricks took

The point is that they are bonus's, what have they done to receive them above their pay? At the AGM 22 Nigel stated that if we did not receive the ML they would reduce costs. They have given themselves a bonus, like WTF

I am hoping that the bonuses paid is a sign that the ML is in hand, just not announced yet......

The addition of two extra directors with excellent credentials for the path forward adds to that " sign "

If that is not the case, then your arguments are perfectly valid.

imo

 

[geo_au]

You must be related to someone on the board... you're unwavering support of every bit of bullshit pulled by the BOD's is ridiculous

Then sell when its listed and bugger off schoolboy.

 

[BEISHA]

There are already a shit tonne of performance rights on the table as incentive for management to get the project over the line. But these were voted on whereas the cash bonuses have already been paid sometime during the financial year. I would have loved to see the vote tally at the AGM for the BoD giving themselves more money while we are burning through cash and the stock is in suspension.
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Fair call, i understand where you and others are coming from completely, i just have a feeling in my plums that their is a tangible reason why they paid themselves a bonus as conveyed in previous posts today.

If ML is not in hand by the time the upcoming AGM arrives, then thats going to be another bunsen burner moment the BOD are going to have to deal with.......

Its very simple...........ML in hand, it will be a non issue, if no ML in hand, then...

 

[tonster66]

I am hoping that the bonuses paid is a sign that the ML is in hand, just not announced yet......

The addition of two extra directors with excellent credentials for the path forward adds to that " sign "

If that is not the case, then your arguments are perfectly valid.

imo

The bonus's are for the last financial year. I hope they haven't been keeping the ML from us for that long

 

[Azzler]

I am hoping that the bonuses paid is a sign that the ML is in hand, just not announced yet......

The addition of two extra directors with excellent credentials for the path forward adds to that " sign "

If that is not the case, then your arguments are perfectly valid.

imo

Pretty much my thoughts Beisha.
I can't imagine them seriously suggesting these bonuses come AGM if we still have no ML.

 

[oxxa23]

Fair call, i understand where you and others are coming from completely, i just have a feeling in my plums that their is a tangible reason why they paid themselves a bonus as conveyed in previous posts today.

If ML is not in hand by the time the upcoming AGM arrives, then thats going to be another bunsen burner moment the BOD are going to have to deal with.......

Its very simple...........ML in hand, it will be a non issue, if no ML in hand, then...

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school boy... being real vs fanciful praise.... no worries... mate not one farken person takes you serious after you call them the best BOD on asx... you're in neverland... oh, and that's if we ever re-list and they haven't spent all the cash....

 

[wombat74]

Well to be fair that type of respect is something that would be totally up the alley of the J.V partners, Self-serving Cominiere and Dathomir. Me, Me and oh yea ME.

On reading that particular part of the financial report I wasn't exactly enthused, but they now have the AGM to explain themselves. If the ML comes in before then I personally won't question it. MMGA are looking for any chink, granted this looks like an own-goal by the BOD, but time will tell and they will no doubt be questioned about it at the AGM, although by then we may (I know) be celebrating (bottle of bubbly).

Do you remember Nigel's attitude toward questions asked at the last AGM re his involvement with AJN / Klaus ? Unless he is bearing good news I am fairly certain his response to questions re bonuses will be met with the same reply .

 

[oxxa23]

I am hoping that the bonuses paid is a sign that the ML is in hand, just not announced yet......

The addition of two extra directors with excellent credentials for the path forward adds to that " sign "

If that is not the case, then your arguments are perfectly valid.

imo

mate, that's putting the cart before the horse... what's wrong with paying them in 2024 once successful... don't get me wrong, not rocking the boat and voting against them...

 

[Azzler]

mate, that's putting the cart before the horse... what's wrong with paying them in 2024 once successful... don't get me wrong, not rocking the boat and voting against them...

You're right, 100%.
Unless they really do know it's "in the bag".
OR they plan to sell it after we get ML.

 

[BEISHA]

mate, that's putting the cart before the horse... what's wrong with paying them in 2024 once successful... don't get me wrong, not rocking the boat and voting against them...

I completely agree mate, all i am doing is keeping a open mind why they would of paid themselves a bonus when funds are on the slide and multiple court cases are on the horizon.......

Obtaining the ML is the only thing that could be plausible............otherwise its outrageous.

imo

 

[oxxa23]

I completely agree mate, all i am doing is keeping a open mind why they would of paid themselves a bonus when funds are on the slide and multiple court cases are on the horizon.......

Obtaining the ML is the only thing that could be plausible............otherwise its outrageous.

imo

Anyway, i've now argued my piece... that's enough from me... enjoy pies supporters.... I got to last year...

 

[BEISHA]

The bonus's are for the last financial year. I hope they haven't been keeping the ML from us for that long

DRC are pulling the strings, not AVZ, plus, its only 2 months into the new financial year.

Just trying to remain positive mate.

AGM will reveal all, if not prior, everyone just needs to try and chill in the mean time.

 

[JAG]