"I can't help but think (ever the optimist) that AVZ have secured Manono and Com and Z are out. But it can not yet be announced, finalizing stages ect... So Com and Z are suing for their claimed ownership valuations." Azzler 15/05.
AVZ Discussion 2022
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So Cominiere is suing AVZ for the loss of their 10% that by law cedes to the Govt (or is it 5% with MMCS still in the picture?). So in theory, MoM issues mining license, 10% cedes to Govt, Cominiere own 0%, no case to answer to? Felix just has to wave the axe in that Department and they will be out of the picture.
Let’s see if Zijin continue their lawsuit and piss off the Govt. Zijin are suing AVZ for what? The Govt would have made the decision to kick them out, not AVZ. Zijin would have a better chance of suing the Govt if that’s in fact what has happened.
If I were Felix, I’d tell Zijin to drop everything otherwise he will start revisiting their other projects in the DRC. Will Zijin take that gamble with a Govt that clearly doesn’t want them in the picture, not to mention China’s exemplary record in the DRC.
Let’s see if Zijin continue their lawsuit and piss off the Govt. Zijin are suing AVZ for what? The Govt would have made the decision to kick them out, not AVZ. Zijin would have a better chance of suing the Govt if that’s in fact what has happened.
If I were Felix, I’d tell Zijin to drop everything otherwise he will start revisiting their other projects in the DRC. Will Zijin take that gamble with a Govt that clearly doesn’t want them in the picture, not to mention China’s exemplary record in the DRC.
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Xerof
Flaming 1967
9card won't and shouldn't give any details on a public forum unless it's rock solid info. This has been his MO all along.
Even then I would suggest leaving it to AVZ to make appropriate announcements, as if true, this is sensitive, major news
Doesn't mean he can't share privately with trusted colleagues
In the meantime, we will speculate, theorise and come up with wish lists, wishful thinking and maybe even a few down ramps
Even then I would suggest leaving it to AVZ to make appropriate announcements, as if true, this is sensitive, major news
Doesn't mean he can't share privately with trusted colleagues
In the meantime, we will speculate, theorise and come up with wish lists, wishful thinking and maybe even a few down ramps
Into stouts and what the English call 'real ale'.
Made both, was even in a brewing club at school- those were the days.
I'll give you one guess what the teacher died from.
Have come to believe that stout drinkers are the fussiest buggers on the planet which is probably why I've never been totally satisfied with my efforts and why there is such a wide range of products for what is a specialist brew.
In contrast, real ale is easy.
BTW
I don't think Aussies realise just how good the beers coming out of Coopers actually are.
Pale ale is splendid.
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Carlos Danger
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Listen very carefully to what Klaus says about AVZ in this interview today. Very different tune to a few months ago when he was confident of getting the north. He knows he has lost and hearing him meekly talk about 'some other AVZ management which is working on the production' makes me so fucking happy haha
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cruiser51
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Don't you know it's the water that makes South Australian beer.
(Sorry was a commercial jingle about Olympia beer a long time ago on the NW Coast of USA)
I know Coopers in Norwood has its own water supply.
But Southwark is special, I reckon they pump the special brew straight out of the Torrens river.
Xerof
Flaming 1967
He's looking very tired, put on a lot of weight, and he has completely backed off his aggro stance against AVZ.
Sad to see such an ego get beaten down like that
Not
Just one of the to-do items on Nigels list ticked off.
I wonder how many there are left now?
Mr Inappropriate
Regular
That's fucking gold, @Carlos Danger. You can hear in his tone and his words that it hurts him deeply that he's not involved. He sold the farm for a penny and now he regrets it.
Suck it, Klaus!
It seems reasonable to conclude that Zijin and Cominiere were stripped of their shares in Dathcom (Although Zijin never really had a legitimate share anyway). I can't think of any other setting where Zijin and Cominiere would take ICC action. After all, they can't claim a loss if strippng away their proportions didn't actually occur.
As for who to claim damages from; since it was the DRC government's decision, take the govt rather than AVZ to the ICC. The DRC is a signatory to the World Bank's investor-state dispute settlement arrangements, so good luck.
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Mr Inappropriate
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@timb89, there's a decent trail of breadcrumbs out there now - public and private snippets here and on twitter, and also articles in the media. It's possible to put those together with sprinkling of deductive reasoning to paint a positive picture of what's unfolding.
Granted, it's too early to post itshappening.gif but there is cause of optimism, imo.
Xerof
Flaming 1967
Just one other point about this Binding Agreement on the tenement further north of us: Nigel mentioned the high mica in the northern part of 13359. So it goes without saying all Klaus will dig up is more mica than ever
No beer brewed at the Thebarton site anymoreDon't you know it's the water that makes South Australian beer.
(Sorry was a commercial jingle about Olympia beer a long time ago on the NW Coast of USA)
I know Coopers in Norwood has its own water supply.
But Southwark is special, I reckon they pump the special brew straight out of the Torrens river.
Operations shut down in 2021
Southwark Bitter was my old mans choice of beer in the 70's ...was known as Green Death back in the day and was always purchased in long necks
The label got changed to Blue some time later to distance itself from the nickname
cruiser51
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My father luved it as well, he called it a full bodied beer and said we are drinking it too cold.No beer brewed at the Thebarton site anymore
Operations shut down in 2021
Southwark Bitter was my old mans choice of beer in the 70's ...was known as Green Death back in the day and was always purchased in long necks
The label got changed to Blue some time later to distance itself from the nickname
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According to him you have to allow a beer to breath, otherwise you get too much gas build up in the body and you really don't taste the beer.
What he actually said, if you drink it too cold, it makes you fart like a pro.
My point was you need a fork and knife to drink a southwark, or as the crow eaters call it suthik.
Mr Inappropriate
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Ah, the mica. That’s my trigger word.Just one other point about this Binding Agreement on the tenement further north of us: Nigel mentioned the high mica in the northern part of 13359. So it goes without saying all Klaus will dig up is more mica than ever
Way back, Nigel was dismissing our loss of the northern section with the throwaway line about the high mica content. I knew in that exact moment we were fucked. Hopefully we can laugh about it one day soon.
9cardomaha
Regular
So a few things I am waiting on:
As mentioned by others, we've had false flags for the 15% being returned, namely that video that was circulated where they are all sitting with the green grub, but that was merely negotiations, there was only an offer that later surfaced for the 'return' of 15% for the north.
What my local source has confirmed is that the 15% return has now been ratified through contract signing - nothing additional attached to this tidbit, was just a 'ZJ has returned the 15%'.
- Latest RCCM update for the Dathcom registry which does not include Zijin
- Signed contract that Zijin has returned 15% (probably a few strings here)
As mentioned by others, we've had false flags for the 15% being returned, namely that video that was circulated where they are all sitting with the green grub, but that was merely negotiations, there was only an offer that later surfaced for the 'return' of 15% for the north.
What my local source has confirmed is that the 15% return has now been ratified through contract signing - nothing additional attached to this tidbit, was just a 'ZJ has returned the 15%'.
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No July ICC .
9cardomaha
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Its just an inkling, i highly doubt the 15% was returned without strings.
Previously on days of our DRC lives:
- April 2022, AVZ requested to split the tenement to expedite ML awarding.
- AVZ splits tenement, Ministerial decree comes out May 4
- Ultimately all cancelled because of corrupt fuckwits, but the pattern is there.
My thinking for the current 15% would be along the lines of:
- DRC requests Zijin return the 15% to approve a venture for the north
- Zijin returns its 15% (which they didn't actually have) drop all their bullshit law suits, and granted some type of permit for our north. THIS IS ALL SPECULATION, ZJ MIGHT BE NICE GUYS AND JUST WALK AWAY HERP DERP1
The south then falls back to Dathcom
- 75% AVZ, 25% Cominiere with pending resolutions to MMCS and Dathomir
- This is where it gets tricky, i think Gecamines/CMOC definitely going to have a hand in the south somewhere, but don't know how that will work.
This is probably why BOD are in country right - we all knew there would be some compromises made (unfortunate to be the only one not cheating in the game, but it is what it is).
I am waiting for other requests aswell given the newest information, but yeah, everyone needs to be aware that this is not 100% positive, its good news, but needs to be paired with some drawbacks and the above is my understanding.
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