AVZ Discussion 2022

zeeb0t

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Hi all, please continue to report and place folks on ignore. These two actions will root out the bad actors quickly and the system will lock them down and remove much or all capabilities they will have on the forum.
 
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geo_au

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Hi Geo & others,

Does anyone know specifically what Nigel is doing over in the DRC and how long he is likely to be there. Clearly, he and the BOD are working hard for the Mining License but is it around closing the deal or still negotiating or is it something else.

It would be nice if Com & Sin Bin were completely out of the picture.

Silent

Clearly it's all confidential but he's there for a purpose or benefit if you like.
 
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G7 Hiroshima Leaders’ Communiqué​

Clean Energy Economy

27. Emphasizing that the global climate and energy crisis highlights the urgent need to accelerate the clean energy transition towards achieving net-zero emissions no later than 2050 and to transform our energy systems, we underline the necessity of economic diversification and transformation, including in supply chains. In order to further promote clean energy transitions on a global scale, we are determined to increase our efforts and, in particular, will pursue secure, resilient, affordable, and sustainable clean energy supply chains, including those for critical minerals and clean energy technologies. In implementing energy transitions, we also reaffirm the importance of working collectively to avoid market distortions and ensuring a global level playing field. We will continue to work with international partners to realize a clean energy economy through concrete actions as laid out in the Clean Energy Economy Action Plan.


29. We reaffirm the growing importance of critical minerals in various fields, especially for the global clean energy transition, and the need to manage economic and security risks caused by vulnerable supply chains. We support open, fair, transparent, secure, diverse, sustainable, traceable, rules- and market-based trade in critical minerals, oppose market-distorting practices and monopolistic policies on critical minerals, and reaffirm the need to build resilient, robust, responsible, and transparent critical mineral supply chains. We are committed to strengthening our preparedness and resilience against emergencies such as market disruptions, and considering ways to jointly address any such disruptions, including through the support of the IEA’s “Voluntary Critical Mineral Security Program.” We welcome joint progress in efforts to diversify supply chains, including the refining and processing of critical minerals, such as the Minerals Security Partnership (MSP). We will support local value creation in critical minerals supply chains in line with the WTO rules. We will promote domestic and international recycling of critical minerals in collaboration with developing countries. We affirm that strong environmental, social and governance (ESG) standards will ensure benefits to local communities, including people living in the vicinity of areas with mineral reserves and refining and processing plants, protect workers’ rights, and promote transparency, while giving due consideration to upstream and midstream environments. In order to further promote the clean energy transition we reiterate the need to establish sustainable an resilient supply chains for critical mineral resources and products manufactured using such resources. We welcome the “Five-Point Plan for Critical Mineral Security” adopted by G7 Climate, Energy and Environment Ministers and instruct them to implement the plan.

Regional Affairs

50. We stand together on core foreign policy and security challenges to build a more secure and prosperous future. We also reaffirm our determination to work with a wide range of partners to address pressing global challenges and to ensure that the international system is able to respond effectively to these issues.

51. We stand together as G7 partners on the following elements, which underpin our respective relations with China:

  • We stand prepared to build constructive and stable relations with China, recognizing the importance of engaging candidly with and expressing our concerns directly to China. We act in our national interest. It is necessary to cooperate with China, given its role in the international community and the size of its economy, on global challenges as well as areas of common interest.
  • We call on China to engage with us, including in international fora, on areas such as the climate and biodiversity crisis and the conservation of natural resources in the framework of the Paris and Kunming-Montreal Agreements, addressing vulnerable countries’ debt sustainability and financing needs, global health and macroeconomic stability.
  • Our policy approaches are not designed to harm China nor do we seek to thwart China’s economic progress and development. A growing China that plays by international rules would be of global interest. We are not decoupling or turning inwards. At the same time, we recognize that economic resilience requires de-risking and diversifying. We will take steps, individually and collectively, to invest in our own economic vibrancy. We will reduce excessive dependencies in our critical supply chains.
  • With a view to enabling sustainable economic relations with China, and strengthening the international trading system, we will push for a level playing field for our workers and companies. We will seek to address the challenges posed by China’s non-market policies and practices, which distort the global economy. We will counter malign practices, such as illegitimate technology transfer or data disclosure. We will foster resilience to economic coercion. We also recognize the necessity of protecting certain advanced technologies that could be used to threaten our national security without unduly limiting trade and investment.
  • We remain seriously concerned about the situation in the East and South China Seas. We strongly oppose any unilateral attempts to change the status quo by force or coercion.
  • We reaffirm the importance of peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait as indispensable to security and prosperity in the international community. There is no change in the basic positions of the G7 members on Taiwan, including stated one China policies. We call for a peaceful resolution of cross-Strait issues.
  • We will keep voicing our concerns about the human rights situation in China, including in Tibet and Xinjiang where forced labor is of major concern to us. We call on China to honor its commitments under the Sino-British Joint Declaration and the Basic Law, which enshrine rights, freedoms and a high degree of autonomy for Hong Kong.
  • We call on China to act in accordance with its obligations under the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations and the Vienna Convention on Consular relations, and not to conduct interference activities aimed at undermining the security and safety of our communities, the integrity of our democratic institutions and our economic prosperity.
  • We call on China to press Russia to stop its military aggression, and immediately, completely and unconditionally withdraw its troops from Ukraine. We encourage China to support a comprehensive, just and lasting peace based on territorial integrity and the principles and purposes of the UN Charter, including through its direct dialogue with Ukraine
 
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cruiser51

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well done allornothing....saved me the trouble of enlightening pow4ade

The only thing I'll add is they can all move to the serious, no BS, no banter, soul-less, AVZ 2023 thread proudly sponsored by John Reed

Knock yourselves out guys...

Literally
I reckon some of the serious posters are homesick, they are not allowed to whinge there.

It will probably take a bit to get the show properly up and running.

Maybe the whippy van with some super cones does the trick.

But at this very moment:

 
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Hey AVZ LTH's and genuine posters

Looking forward to the new week as always!

Hopefully we get some decent news and maybe some sort of official update on the situation from the BoD

Let's see what happens....we all know that reliable news is pretty thin at these times

Of course, as always, if anyone has some good information from decent sources feel free to post it here and share for the benefit of the community

Even if you don't have any great intel but would like to connect and share with like minded, supportive investors, post whatever you like and whatever you feel helps get us through this unfortunately frustrating and somewhat difficult investment

Get on board good people :)

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@Azzler - was there any truth in your concerns about possibly hijacked accounts?
@Winenut - Did you really post what I'm replying to? I'm probs feeling paranoid after ~2-years of shit-show.
@Berabakan - Good points re all TSE posts are publicly available. I hope PM's are secure.
I don't have any inside info. But considering:
(1) Cominiere & Zijin launched a (hopeless) ambit claim for damages at ICC,
(2) NF is in the DRC now,
(3) USA/Biden just ann'ing $250M finance for "Lobito Corridor" at PGII Meeting in Japan. (Rail, South DRC to Angola & Atlantic Ocean)
(4) PR05 going to China next week presumably seeking better deal on existing DRC-China contracts (Sicomines, Gecamines ...);
AVZ Mgmt must be at a sensitive stage of negotiations.
TSE AVZ threads abound now with dubious characters, new & recurring - manipulating & seeking info? If I had sensitive info, I could not share it publicly or in a way that may harm AVZ & LTSH concerns.
I do hope that AVZ makes some +ve Ann's well before DRC Mining Week, 14-16 June 2023.
IMO. GLTAH. Br Sparrowhawk
 
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cruiser51

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Hi Geo & others,

Does anyone know specifically what Nigel is doing over in the DRC and how long he is likely to be there. Clearly, he and the BOD are working hard for the Mining License but is it around closing the deal or still negotiating or is it something else.

It would be nice if Com & Sin Bin were completely out of the picture.

Silent
Who told you Nigel is in Africa?

Company announcement, or your coiffeuse?
 
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TDITD

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Hi all, please continue to report and place folks on ignore. These two actions will root out the bad actors quickly and the system will lock them down and remove much or all capabilities they will have on the forum.
Absolute bollocks Zee. They are still here, all Characters of the one bad actor, in fact many of us thought they had been dealt with only to find them back now with another campaign. Read the post above yours please, this place has turned to a cesspit due to a certain douche gaming the inadequate system you have in place mate.
 
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djhome

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This unit practically qualifies as a whale, let’s see what this week brings….

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Xerof

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Doc

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Any one sharing privately “leaks” or “confi” or “sensitive info” or hoping the messaging system is secure is wrong.

As for my presence here, if I want information, I know exactly which people to talk to but this is the secret: I do not want to know 😀 and don’t need to know.
Confi? Is that like confetti?
 
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John25

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@zeeb0t my view is, there are some members who are trying to bait me into posting simply so they can “community moderate” my post irrespective of content.
@DoubleA post was moderated either for he/she was scared to have a contrarian position or by someone who didn’t like seeing support for a tidy up of threads, the “tidy up” also means sticking to TSE rules, the simplest being on-topic about AVZ. The “community members” moderating here are extremely intolerant of different kinds of temperament. None of the interacted with the first class post by @Roon who is a professional in the area he writes on in regards to AVZ

this platform won’t grow if “community moderation” is abused by a number of members colluding against other members simply because they have different views.
These same members support each other in breaching TSEs openly by suggesting all kinds of content unrelated to AVZ can be socialised with here. This brings the quality of the forum down. This doesn’t mean jokes and gifs etc can’t be included to support the on-topic banter.

I also want to say @zeeb0t that obviously we are not and should not be lab rats for the bot to thrive on by reporting. The bot has made some ridiculous decisions and is very hotcrapper-ish in judgment and this I think is now being manipulated to evil effect by some “community members” who only see the arrows that come their way but not the arrows they send

If there is a campaign it is for example by this person (image attached), who openly makes a “call to arms” ; a campaign. And you may wish to investigate this collusion in private messages, to stamp it out.

As for me I just want to be left in peace, not be harangued for some purported ulterior intention — all the reactions I have had suggest people like my content most of the time, and it is sad that the bot is not factoring in the positives?

I will also add here, I do have shares in AVZ, a relevant interest agrees and signed and can also accumulate more. I like the project and want it to succeed. Any criticisms of management which are always valid ones, is for the success of the company. If AVZ fails my friends get hurt and any prospect of a life with dividends is forfeited.

In fact, my content and presence is likely drawing more interest to these threads from outside. So @zeeb0t , the risk is “community moderation” = “mob rules”.

If I needed to do a campaign there are much better easier ways than being here.
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Bray

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Anyone got the link to the new forum now this one is ruined
 
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Bray

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Seriously, what a fucking joke.
We went near 1450 pages of the forum having a good vibe and now we’re being dictated how to post, what to post, where to post..

The best thing about this forum was it was full of normal people, posting lots of great information/content.. we’ve all been guilty of swearing, saying dumb shit but the great this was people would shake their head, have a laugh and be over it the next day and then it was usual business.
 
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Winenut

Go AVZ!
@Azzler - was there any truth in your concerns about possibly hijacked accounts?
@Winenut - Did you really post what I'm replying to? I'm probs feeling paranoid after ~2-years of shit-show.
@Berabakan - Good points re all TSE posts are publicly available. I hope PM's are secure.
I don't have any inside info. But considering:
(1) Cominiere & Zijin launched a (hopeless) ambit claim for damages at ICC,
(2) NF is in the DRC now,
(3) USA/Biden just ann'ing $250M finance for "Lobito Corridor" at PGII Meeting in Japan. (Rail, South DRC to Angola & Atlantic Ocean)
(4) PR05 going to China next week presumably seeking better deal on existing DRC-China contracts (Sicomines, Gecamines ...);
AVZ Mgmt must be at a sensitive stage of negotiations.
TSE AVZ threads abound now with dubious characters, new & recurring - manipulating & seeking info? If I had sensitive info, I could not share it publicly or in a way that may harm AVZ & LTSH concerns.
I do hope that AVZ makes some +ve Ann's well before DRC Mining Week, 14-16 June 2023.
IMO. GLTAH. Br Sparrowhawk

Yes Sparrow.....I definitely posted what you replied to

Cheers
Nut :cool:
 
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