AVZ Discussion 2022

[Flexi]

If the President or his Ministers do not step in to resolve this SHITSHOW by the end of this month than he will be fair game on Twitter

 

[John Reed]

Cactus John has a good ring to it
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You’ve called your local MP?

If the President or his Ministers do not step in to resolve this SHITSHOW by the end of this month than he will be fair game on Twitter

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who is the guy bottom left?

 

[BEISHA]

Apologies if someone has posted this, but I don’t see any discussion on the alleged $100 mil brown paper bags. Kiki Kienge would have vetted this source I assume.

This is massive interference if so. Tshisekedi must have received a sweetener, there’s no way $100mil USD is passed around and he doesn’t get a look.

The only way to overcome this is with the power of the USA.

Cominiere could not have been combined with Zijin without Portfolio ministry blessing.

Could this roughly billion dollar claim by Zijin and Cominiere be anticipating a sale by AVZ as well hi

It’s a great word.

A fantastic word..........I thought i had a rather extensive handle on the english language , but never came across that word until Sir Les and Der Geist used it within the space of a day or two.........fancy that.

" Confabulating " is another great word used by you too John......congrats bro.

You never stop learning do you ?

Definition of CONFABULATING....." to engage in conversation "


Question.........can confabulating lead to malfeasance ?

 

[Carlos Danger]

Apologies if someone has posted this tweet already, but I don’t see any discussion on the alleged $100 mil brown paper bags. Kiki Kienge would have vetted this source I assume.

This is massive interference if so. Tshisekedi must have received a sweetener, there’s no way $100mil USD is passed around and he doesn’t get a look.

The only way to overcome this is with the power of the USA.

Cominiere could not have been combined with Zijin without Portfolio ministry blessing.

Could this roughly billion dollar claim by Zijin and Cominiere be anticipating a sale by AVZ as well?

Yeah those are the rumoured extra payments I referred to yesterday. I'm yet to see any details or proof of these occurring but Kiki must be fairly confident to print it even if they are just allegations.

I don't think the claims by Zijin and Cominiere are based on a potential sale by AVZ. Management said in the announcement that they have no idea how they came to that amount as nothing about workings was included in the request. But it is possible.

Maybe the gringos have finally realised they need Manono to beat China and have made Felix an offer he can't refuse. Maybe Zijin and Cominiere are just trying to delay things as much as possible to make AVZ look bad in the eyes of the 'competent DRC authorities'.

 

[Carlos Danger]

You’ve called your local MP?

No. My local MP is an idiot. I don't want them involved.

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Zijin were exposed fraudulently conspiring with Cominiere to extort ownership away from AVZ in the Dathcom Manono project by the IGF

A few months later Zijin tries to blackmail Cominiere into giving them the northern part of the project tenement

Cominiere and Zijin have another joint venture called Katamba Mining on the periphery of Manono but they don’t seem to know whether it’s a gold or lithium tenement

Zijin Mining to explore for lithium in DRC

The Chinese miner has launched its first lithium exploration project in a joint venture with DRC-owned firm Cominiere.

www.mining.com

Everywhere you look Zijin and Cominiere are operating using bribery, chaos, confusion and business and environmental vandalism

Amid Environmental Concerns, A Chinese Mining Company In Serbia Looks To Repair Its Image Through Sport

In the face of growing scrutiny and protests over its poor environmental record, China's Zijin Mining Group is making donations to local sports teams in Serbia in what activists and watchdogs allege is an attempt to rehabilitate its reputation.

www.rferl.org

Tshisekedi and Lukonde have been watching it all unfold over the last twelve months

Meanwhile

 

[Winenut]

You’ve called your local MP?

who is the guy bottom left?

That's Jimmy Chong

He's on the woks at my local Chinese takeaway Fuchyuu.......best sweet and sour pork and lemon chicken this side of Guangzhou

 

[John Reed]

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That's Jimmy Chong

He's on the woks at my local Chinese takeaway Fuchyuu.......best sweet and sour pork and lemon chicken this side of Guangzhou

Welcome to hotcrapper

 

[John Reed]

If the President or his Ministers do not step in to resolve this SHITSHOW by the end of this month than he will be fair game on Twitter

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The Chinese will love you for it

 

[Winenut]

Obviously john weed is here to turn tse into the crapper. He began by trying to appear knowledgeable but a trolls true character always comes out. Unfortunately there doesn’t appear much can be done to get trolls moderated.

The good thing is most genuine shareholders see through the bullshit

 

[Xerof]

Does anyone know if Sinkingboatman and Tommy titmouse have published anything on what for them should have been a scoop of anti-AVZ icecream yesterday

Thanks to those who provided some truely excellent facts yesterday too

• ICC submission on or around April 28th, not yesterday, so before AVZ injunction succeeded
• evidence that Zijin declared in their AR that they paid the full amount for 15% - still no proof of who actually got the funds - Jules Alinge Key should inspect Cominiere bank accounts again?
• and a final thanks to Cominiere and Zijin for providing us with a very fat valuation of our project at US5.6 billion

 

[Winenut]

Does anyone know if Sinkingboatman and Tommy titmouse have published anything on what for them should have been a scoop of anti-AVZ icecream yesterday

Thanks to those who provided some truely excellent facts yesterday too

• ICC submission on or around April 28th, not yesterday, so before AVZ injunction succeeded
• evidence that Zijin declared in their AR that they paid the full amount for 15% - still no proof of who actually got the funds - Jules Alinge Key should inspect Cominiere bank accounts again?
• and a final thanks to Cominiere and Zijin for providing us with a very fat valuation of our project at US5.6 billion

What are the ramifications of the ICC submission being on or around April 28th and prior to the AVZ injunction succeeding?

Does it have significant implications in the way this can play out?

 

[9cardomaha]

Does anyone know if Sinkingboatman and Tommy titmouse have published anything on what for them should have been a scoop of anti-AVZ icecream yesterday

Thanks to those who provided some truely excellent facts yesterday too

• ICC submission on or around April 28th, not yesterday, so before AVZ injunction succeeded
• evidence that Zijin declared in their AR that they paid the full amount for 15% - still no proof of who actually got the funds - Jules Alinge Key should inspect Cominiere bank accounts again?
• and a final thanks to Cominiere and Zijin for providing us with a very fat valuation of our project at US5.6 billion

 

[9cardomaha]

What are the ramifications of the ICC submission being on or around April 28th and prior to the AVZ injunction succeeding?

Does it have significant implications in the way this can play out?

The ramifications would be that the Zijin + Cominiere ICC case isn't instantly thrown out since it was lodged before the injunction.

My thinking on the timing is that AVZ tried to have the ICC just throw the case out with the Emergency Proceedings, or at least suspend it until AVZ v Cominiere is finalized (we announced April 17).

So the new timeline of events in terms of the ICC could be:

1. Zijin vs AVZ - July Jurisdiction Hearing, August verdict
2. AVZ vs Cominiere - Preliminary steps, selecting arbitrators, document discovery, timeline setting for proceedings (September)
3. Zijin/Cominiere vs AVZ - Suspended until further notice
   • 3 can only go forward if 1 rules in Zijin's favour and;
   • if 2 rules in Cominiere's favour (but the final verdict for this should be in like 2024-2025)

Someone peer review this for me?

 

[Xerof]

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thanks mate. A simple reporting of the announcement for a change

 

[Flight996]

Obviously john weed is here to turn tse into the crapper. He began by trying to appear knowledgeable but a trolls true character always comes out. Unfortunately there doesn’t appear much can be done to get trolls moderated.

The good thing is most genuine shareholders see through the bullshit

His use of the Chinese version of Zijin's 2022 Annual Report when an English version was available, plus the typically Chinese phrase 'conditioning values' tells me he's a Chinese stooge.
So it's off to the naughty corner (ignore) for him.

 

[John Reed]

A fantastic word..........I thought i had a rather extensive handle on the english language , but never came across that word until Sir Les and Der Geist used it within the space of a day or two.........fancy that.

" Confabulating " is another great word used by you too John......congrats bro.

You never stop learning do you ?

Definition of CONFABULATING....." to engage in conversation "


Question.........can confabulating lead to malfeasance ?

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That’s a lovely portrait Beisha. A real turn-on.

I think your answer lies in the fact we all come from different backgrounds, and individually have different proclivities as your gif suggests for yourself, and, need to respect that.

For example, I’m a keen listener and if I don’t understand a word or concept I ask or check and accordingly adopt What works for me and it may not work for you. Tough titties .

You won’t find me using the word “kunt” and it has never crossed my mind till now why a few here do, perhaps it’s their misogynistic proclivities or homoerotic howling to the group think here.

It’s likely the Congolese have checked the word “kunt” and are lost. The Chinese with their e-dictionaries “meiYou”. Really some of you need to crawl out of your parochial shells and grow up a bit, more.

In recent times, the only time I haven’t listened when it really mattered and I’m sorry for my family, was that I didn’t heed Der Geist’s warning crystal clear end of April ‘22, that AVZ was being ambushed.

We need to suck it up perhaps for not much longer but if we do end up in the ditch, we can only blame ourselves for adopting the herd mentality.

 

[Winenut]

The ramifications would be that the Zijin + Cominiere ICC case isn't instantly thrown out since it was lodged before the injunction.

My thinking on the timing is that AVZ tried to have the ICC just throw the case out with the Emergency Proceedings, or at least suspend it until AVZ v Cominiere is finalized (we announced April 17).

So the new timeline of events in terms of the ICC could be:

1. Zijin vs AVZ - July Jurisdiction Hearing, August verdict
2. AVZ vs Cominiere - Preliminary steps, selecting arbitrators, document discovery, timeline setting for proceedings (September)
3. Zijin/Cominiere vs AVZ - Suspended until further notice
   • 3 can only go forward if 1 rules in Zijin's favour and;
   • if 2 rules in Cominiere's favour (but the final verdict for this should be in like 2024-2025)

Someone peer review this for me?

Thanks for the simple clarification and insight 9card....much appreciated

Too little of it on the thread these days

 

[John Reed]

If Felix got a sweetener then he is owned by the Chinese . There is nothing new about this suspicion . Many have considered this to be the case since this sh1t show began . Maybe after more than 12 months of this crap it's becoming a little more obvious .

Yes with 100mil USD, it is a near certainty.

French newspapers need to get onto this

 

[John Reed]

Zijin were exposed fraudulently conspiring with Cominiere to extort ownership away from AVZ in the Dathcom Manono project by the IGF

A few months later Zijin tries to blackmail Cominiere into giving them the northern part of the project tenement

Cominiere and Zijin have another joint venture called Katamba Mining on the periphery of Manono but they don’t seem to know whether it’s a gold or lithium tenement

Zijin Mining to explore for lithium in DRC

The Chinese miner has launched its first lithium exploration project in a joint venture with DRC-owned firm Cominiere.

www.mining.com

Everywhere you look Zijin and Cominiere are operating using bribery, chaos, confusion and business and environmental vandalism

Amid Environmental Concerns, A Chinese Mining Company In Serbia Looks To Repair Its Image Through Sport

In the face of growing scrutiny and protests over its poor environmental record, China's Zijin Mining Group is making donations to local sports teams in Serbia in what activists and watchdogs allege is an attempt to rehabilitate its reputation.

www.rferl.org

Tshisekedi and Lukonde have been watching it all unfold over the last twelve months

Meanwhile

Yes they need to keep up appearances. It’s possible this latest action is just a mirage like the OB action