BRN Discussion Ongoing

[Slade]

Slade how long have you been holding I always thought you were OG.?

No, only around 4 years. Admire those that have held on since the beginning. Great vision to see the potential in AI way back then.

 

[Rskiff]

So we have had Akida 1000 soon 1500, so Akida 2000 then 2500...........Will there be another 17 iterations?
And yet the share price slides on a fantastic road map of what is ahead.

 

[Xray1]

Cringe thinking about us share holders getting very excited about podcasts, then getting no useful info at all. The same goes for CES 2024 and other showcases.

To me it was nothing more than just a feel good "Fluff " podcast of things to come well well down the possible future track .... might of as well given us all an idea of what will come in say 20 years time with Akida20.
I also just like some others here would have much preferred to have heard more factual information about the current state of affairs with the LTSM ... Akida 1500 situation without breaching any NDA's.

 

[AusEire]

*lights the dumpster in anticipation*

 

[robsmark]

So we have had Akida 1000 soon 1500, so Akida 2000 then 2500...........Will there be another 17 iterations?
And yet the share price slides on a fantastic road map of what is ahead.

That’s because It’s not selling Rskiff. You can have the best product in the world but if it doesn’t sell then what is it worth?

 

[DingoBorat]

After Athens adopted slavery , more of the population were freed up to focus on intellectual pursuits, rather than agriculture, resulting in a golden age in philosophy/science and the arts.

I wonder if something similar would be possible once AI frees up portions of modern society from having to earn a living? And if, once freed, we’d be able to somehow outsmart the machines?

( haven’t read Simon’s paper or watched the debate yet, Dingo - so this is just a half-baked thought )

Well, they outsmarted them in the film Terminator

 

[Diogenese]

I was hoping to hear something concrete on LSTM/transformers.

The discussion on 1500 SoC suggests that sensor fusion may have provided some impetus dropping the ARM Cortex MPU. Of course, the Cortex is not included in the Akida IP, so maybe there is a doubting Thomas or two who have difficulty with the concept of a NN performing inference, classification, ML without a processor. Of course, 1500 will need an external processor for configuration, and, if I recollect correctly, for part of the CNN2SNN process.

1500 is designed to work as a NN accelerator with a CPU/GPU without the need for its own MPU, so it could be combined with, say, a SiFive RISC-V processor IP in a single SoC.

The 1500 SoC is to be provided as a demonstrator on a PCIe board. The 1500 IP will basically be the same as the 1000 IP with some modifications/improvements.

So, sensor fusion = Prophesee (+ NASA (inaccessible, long duration, with NASA's new enthusiasm for RISC-V)?

[recall NASA's SBIR for 22 nm FD_SOI NN without MPU] ...

... or just some boring old vibration sensor?

Actually, I'm not sure how much fusion we could do with a vibration sensor which would probably need some electromechanical transducer - (MEMS?).

 

[Rise from the ashes]

That’s because It’s not selling Rskiff. You can have the best product in the world but if it doesn’t sell then what is it worth?

I'm pinning my hopes on after renesas or whoever megachips licensed to release their products I would expect and desperately hope that kicks off more licensing of Akida ip. That is my signal to keep holding or drop this like a hot potato depending on the outcome for me personally.
Ahh also add a bit extra time for Mercedes.
Whoops add socionext also

 

[supersonic001]

BrainChip on LinkedIn: Episode 24 – BrainChip’s Fireside Chat with Founder and CTO Peter van der…

Podcast is up: BrainChip’s Fireside Chat with Founder and CTO Peter van der Made and Chief Marketing Officer Nandan Nayampally discussing the future of AI…

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[Rise from the ashes]

I've posted another useless poll for those who care to vote.

Poll regarding being informed.

Also no time limit on the poll but one can change their vote anytime they wish.

thestockexchange.com.au

 

[Fullmoonfever]

The discussion on 1500 SoC suggests that sensor fusion may have provided some impetus dropping the ARM Cortex MPU. Of course, the Cortex is not included in the Akida IP, so maybe there is a doubting Thomas or two who have difficulty with the concept of a NN performing inference, classification, ML without a processor. Of course, 1500 will need an external processor for configuration, and, if I recollect correctly, for part of the CNN2SNN process.

1500 is designed to work as a NN accelerator with a CPU/GPU without the need for its own MPU, so it could be combined with, say, a SiFive RISC-V processor IP in a single SoC.

The 1500 SoC is to be provided as a demonstrator on a PCIe board. The 1500 IP will basically be the same as the 1000 IP with some modifications/improvements.

So, sensor fusion = Prophesee (+ NASA (inaccessible, long duration, with NASA's new enthusiasm for RISC-V)?

[recall NASA's SBIR for 22 nm FD_SOI NN without MPU] ...

... or just some boring old vibration sensor?

Actually, I'm not sure how much fusion we could do with a vibration sensor which would probably need some electromechanical transducer - (MEMS?).

@Diogenese

Question / thoughts.

By dropping the Arm processor I'm assuming it allows potential clients flexibility to also not have to pay an Arm licensing fee if not required in their design?

Though I know ARM proliferates most of the mkt...still?

 

[Seenitallnow]

@Seenitallnow , can I ask you 2 questions? Are over or under 50 years of age? How long have you been invested in BRN?

I am 61 yrs of age and first invested in BRN in early 2020 but had it on my radar from 2018(massive sceptic early on but it took a couple of years of research to understand where the market was going and why BRN was going to be successful).

 

[Tothemoon24]

This reads to me that Mercedes Benz CLA 2023 updated model will have

Artificial Intelligence

Machine Learning





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2024 Mercedes-Benz CLA spied​

The Mercedes-Benz CLA should follow its A-Class sibling with greater electrification, updated in-car tech, and modestly refreshed styling.


William Stopford
Journalist

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The shapely Mercedes-Benz CLA is set for a nip-and-tuck, with prototypes spied featuring modest exterior tweaks.
These include a restyled front bumper, tweaked grille, new alloy wheels, and what appear to be revised headlight and tail light graphics.
These changes also grace the rakish CLA Shooting Brake, which isn’t sold in Australia.
The updated CLA range will reportedly debut either early in 2023 or around mid-year.

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Most petrol models will reportedly feature electrification in the form of a 48V mild-hybrid system and belt-driven starter-generator, as with the related A-Class that was updated for 2023.

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In the A-Class’s case, only the flagship Mercedes-AMG A45 S misses out on the mild-hybrid tech.
The A-Class’s new 48V system can also support the engine with an additional 10kW “when starting off”.
A plug-in hybrid, the CLA250e, is also currently available in markets like Europe. It could receive the same updates as the A250e, which received a 15.6kWh battery, up to 82km of range, and standard 11kW AC charging capability as part of its mid-life update.

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Inside, the CLA’s infotainment system is expected to get the latest MBUX interface.





This includes artificial intelligence (AI) capable of machine learning, new customisation options, wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, as well as enhanced performance and – in Europe at least – the option of a fingerprint sensor for the identification and authorisation of the driver.
Other technology updates for the A-Class include available Active Steering Control – Mercedes’ term for adaptive lane centring – and a new 3D function for the surround-view camera.

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Mercedes-Benz will debut a new MMA architecturefor small cars in 2024, which it says will underpin only four vehicles – down from the seven on the current MFA2 underpinnings.
It’s part of a push by the three-pointed star brand to focus on more profitable higher-end vehicles and increase the average sale price of its repositioned Entry Luxury models.
It’s aiming to record higher profit margins on those vehicles, as part of a broader push by the company to reach an operating margin target of around 14 per cent by the middle of the decade in favourable market conditions or eight per cent in “very unfavourable” conditions.

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It currently offers the A-Class hatch and sedan, CLA four-door coupe and Shooting Brake wagon, B-Class MPV, and GLA and GLB crossovers.
Mercedes-Benz also offers electric versions of the latter two, the EQA and EQB.
A report from last June indicated Mercedes-Benz would axe the popular A-Class and considerably lower-volume B-Class but retain the GLA, GLB and CLA – including, perhaps surprisingly, the Shooting Brake that isn’t offered in markets like North America or Australia.
MORE: Everything Mercedes-Benz CLA

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[toasty]

I am 61 yrs of age and first invested in BRN in early 2020 but had it on my radar from 2018(massive sceptic early on but it took a couple of years of research to understand where the market was going and why BRN was going to be successful).

Imagine if you will that in 2027 you're still holding and there's no concrete info from the company that indicates the likely source or quantum of future revenue. And that the SP is being blatantly manipulated without any commentary or action from the company.

I am still a HUGE believer in the technology. I'm not so enamoured with the various commercialisation attempts and the lack of information being made available to shareholders...........

 

[Rise from the ashes]

Your the OG mate, RAYZ is also another OG. There was another I’m sure but I can’t remember what their handle was called

Cheers mate, I feel the fork in the road is approaching for me personally and will give it more time as my trigger points are yet to be hit as explained in my previous post. It's a stock that I've held longer than any other and I do get these things take time but we are now in the commercialisation phase and uptake of product is needed in the near future, near future for me Is a time frame of around about a year and a bit for me from here.
Your mileage may vary.
And it doesn't have to be massive explosion of sales I just want to see that ball rolling

 

[Fullmoonfever]

Appears these guys keeping tabs on BRN as well.

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AlixLabs is an innovative startup enabling the semiconductor industry to scale down in a cost effective manner

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[jtardif999]

Let's hope the upcoming AGM is full of substance rather than a futuristic fluff podcast.

There’s nothing ‘fluff’ about the future with PVMD. If Peter says BrainChip will have developed AGI by 2030 then I for one believe him. He has never been far off in his estimates of any dates he’s previously quoted.

 

[Diogenese]

@Diogenese

Question / thoughts.

By dropping the Arm processor I'm assuming it allows potential clients flexibility to also not have to pay an Arm licensing fee if not required in their design?

Though I know ARM proliferates most of the mkt...still?

That's right, although there is a difference between the IP licence and the SoC. The ARM Cortex was never part of the Akida IP.

The Akida 1000 IP was licensed for use with any CPU/GPU, so a bare licence would not have involved the ARM licence, but I suppose you could buy a package deal which included Cortex along with the concomitant ARM licence fee if you lacked the expertise/cash to design your own CPU interface connections.

The Akida 1000 SoC would have included the ARM licence which is not needed for the bare 1000 IP licence, but the 1500 PCIe SoC will not include the ARM licence fee.

We have also teamed up with SiFive and their RISC-V processor, so I expect that, at some stage, we can expect to see a SiFive RISC-V processor with Akida (sans Cortex) front end as a single SoC.

Similarly for Intel, and the ARM option will still be available.

In all cases, the 1500 will need to be configured by its associated processor, and a bit of the CNN2SNN processing will be carried out by that processor, unless the modifications to the 1500 have eliminated the need for the CNN2SNN CCPU external processing.

 

[Fullmoonfever]

That's right, although there is a difference between the IP licence and the SoC. The ARM Cortex was never part of the Akida IP.

The Akida 1000 IP was licensed for use with any CPU/GPU, so a bare licence would not have involved the ARM licence, but I suppose you could buy a package deal which included Cortex along with the concomitant ARM licence fee if you lacked the expertise/cash to design your own CPU interface connections.

The Akida 1000 SoC would have included the ARM licence which is not needed for the bare 1000 IP licence, but the 1500 PCIe SoC will not include the ARM licence fee.

We have also teamed up with SiFive and their RISC-V processor, so I expect that, at some stage, we can expect to see a SiFive RISC-V processor with Akida (sans Cortex) front end as a single SoC.

Similarly for Intel, and the ARM option will still be available.

In all cases, the 1500 will need to be configured by its associated processor, and a bit of the CNN2SNN processing will be carried out by that processor, unless the modifications to the 1500 have eliminated the need for the CNN2SNN CCPU processing.

Cheers....additional flexibility at least and I recalled in the podcast them speaking about allows a reduced BOM as well which I took as not having the Arm required in the package deal.

 

[Seenitallnow]

Imagine if you will that in 2027 you're still holding and there's no concrete info from the company that indicates the likely source or quantum of future revenue. And that the SP is being blatantly manipulated without any commentary or action from the company.

I am still a HUGE believer in the technology. I'm not so enamoured with the various commercialisation attempts and the lack of information being made available to shareholders...........

We all understand the risks involved in investing in a future technology. You are articulating your fear of a worst case scenario. The probability of your scenario materialising is greater than zero but all of us who are invested clearly think it is less than the other end of the spectrum being a steady move towards commercial success with revenue building over time. I do agree that we have been caught up in an unfortunate combination of events leading to a less than efficient distribution of news flow. NDA's and ASX regulations are a minefield to navigate but nonetheless they are bumps in the road, not the reason we will be a success or not. We are currently in a downswing in the share price for reasons most likely related to the capital raise. I believe the post March period will see the sentiment shift and SP recover. Short term sellers and in particular the actively short investors will cover their positions during this phase or just before.

IMO GLTAH DYOR