I reckon I counted 2 to pissed after that. Cheers mate
AVZ Discussion 2022
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Winenut
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Winenut
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Lots of work pro bono???
Sorry...sorry.... not on the legal team......forgot........my bad
Must be something else
ozmacca
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F*ck me, a ~week off the thread and I come back to find we are semi fucked. The mental health forum break clearly didn’t work as planned !
Ah well fellas, I made the move to buy a house without the AVZ cash, Christ it’s a lot smaller than what I’d planned with my AVZ loot but the stress levels about waiting for us to come out of suspension are gone. Family stress over.
Just a note to say I really feel for the holders who are in financial stress as a result of this . I have been, with a newborn, and bloody hell it’s aged me and been a burden on my relationship. Whatever the outcome, you’ll end up ok.
Cheers
Ah well fellas, I made the move to buy a house without the AVZ cash, Christ it’s a lot smaller than what I’d planned with my AVZ loot but the stress levels about waiting for us to come out of suspension are gone. Family stress over.
Just a note to say I really feel for the holders who are in financial stress as a result of this . I have been, with a newborn, and bloody hell it’s aged me and been a burden on my relationship. Whatever the outcome, you’ll end up ok.
Cheers
TDITD
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In this nicest way possible good sir, fuck what's going on with AVZ, Congratulations on the baby and house!
spend as much time as you can with your newborn and wife.
It's a magical (but tiring) time. Great to hear a burdens been lifted aswell, you can always upsize into a new house once Nigel's brought out the spiked baseball bat.
TDITD
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TDITD
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I fully hear you about the difference that an ANZ home run could make to your housing dreams and overall lifestyle expectations. While economists talk about the housing wealth affect, they fail to mention its poor cousin; the corrupt-African-disappearing-investment affect.
I am also looking to upgrade when AVZ eventually comes good. Then I can buy my dream home on the coast...just like Jag.
Pics: Current home (Onthefm, note Mt Buller in the background) vs AVZ financed aspiration.
One needs dreams, or it's all for nothing.
Cheers
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Frank
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*To add, I see where,
Congo demands $17bn more in infrastructure investments from China deal
Congo’s state auditor has demanded an additional $17 billion of investments from a 2008 infrastructure-for-minerals deal with Chinese investors that is currently being renegotiated, documents seen by Reuters on Thursday showed.
President Felix Tshisekedi’s government has been revisiting the deal struck by his predecessor Joseph Kabila under which Sinohydro Corp and China Railway Group Limited agreed to build roads and hospitals in exchange for a 68% stake in Sicomines, a cobalt and copper joint venture with Congo’s state mining company Gecamines.
Under the Sicomines deal, the Chinese investors committed to spending $3 billion on infrastructure projects, but the state auditor – Inspection Generale des Finances (IGF) – demanded that commitment be increased to $20 billion, to reflect the value of the mining concessions that Gecamines contributed to the deal.
He has previously defended the deal, saying it had driven development for Congo’s people and that Sicomines would invest more as production increased.
So far, Sicomines has only spent $822 million on infrastructure investments, according to the IGF report seen by Reuters.
The auditor also called for an “immediate” $1 billion investment from Sicomines, and a commitment to 50% of the workforce on infrastructure projects being Congolese.
Among a list of 16 demands, the IGF called for the “renegotiation of the Convention to adjust and balance the duties and benefits of both parties and bring them into line with the value of their respective contributions”.
The auditor also demanded that Gecamines be given a bigger stake in Sicomines.
It currently has a 32% holding.
Congo’s finance minister Nicolas Kazadi told Reuters last month that the government expects to reach an agreement on the Sicomines deal this year.
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Race to secure lithium supplies is heating up
- Piedmont lands investment, binding offtake from LG Chem
- Car makers could invest up to US$600bn over 10 years on battery investments
- Sayona’s North American Lithium restart is on track and on budget
The scramble to secure critical minerals needed for the energy transition – as is highlighted by governmental action such as the US Inflation Reduction Act – is continuing apace.
Piedmont Lithium has just landed a $75m investment from South Korean chemical giant LG Chem – the parent of the world’s second largest battery cell maker, which included a binding commitment for the offtake of 200,000t of spodumene concentrate from its jointly-owned North American Lithium project over four years from the third quarter of 2023.
This comes mere days after LG told Bloomberg that it was looking to secure its own raw material through potential partnerships and investments to establish a self-sufficient supply chain.
Meanwhile, LithiumAmericas has closed the initial US$320m tranche of its previously announced US$650m investment by automotive giant General Motors, which will be used to accelerate development of its Thacker Pass lithium project in Humboldt County, Nevada.
ARK Investment Management’s Sam Korus believes that others will seek to strike deals to secure lithium supplies while pointing out that global automakers have earmarked US$600bn for battery investments over the next 10 years.
Li-Bridge – a US public-private alliance committed to accelerating the development of a robust and secure domestic supply chain for lithium-based batteries – also warned that the US would still depend on imports despite an expected increase in domestic lithium battery demand of up to six times by 2030.
However, it noted that the US could still capture some 60% of the economic value consumed by domestic demand for lithium batteries, generating US$33bn in revenues and creating 100,000 jobs.
What all this means is that we are likely to see further investments from battery and car manufacturers looking to lock in their supply chains and supportive government legislation such as the US Inflation Reduction Act are likely to play a key role in their decision making process.
Sayona Mining which is incidentally the majority partner at North American Lithium, certainly seems to think that the move from companies such as LG Chem will be positive, telling fellow Stockhead reporter Jessica Cummins that its operations in Quebec will have a big role to play in closing some of the supply gap given its proximity to the US.
This is particularly true given that the Inflation Reduction Act provides tax credits to manufacturers with 40% or more (rising to 80% in 2027) of their raw materials coming from the US or nations with which it has free-trade agreements, which include both Australia and Canada.
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General Motors digs into mining business to lead race for EV metals
General Motors is trying to speed ahead in the race for metals underpinning the industry’s shift to electric cars.
The US automaker is competing for a stake in Vale’s base metals unit, people familiar with the matter said this month.
A deal may give GM access to the Brazilian mining giant’s copper and nickel resources that are key to making EV batteries.
GM has made several such wagers recently, buying equity while rivals mostly sign supply deals.
Last month, it bought a $650 million stake in Lithium Americas to help develop Nevada’s Thacker Pass mine, which may support output of as many as 1 million EVs a year.
In October, GM invested $69 million in Australia’s Queensland Pacific Metals, a producer of nickel and cobalt.
The moves are strategic bets to secure supplies that are getting increasingly sought-after.
“We’ll continue to work with many people in the industry, especially in lithium and the other critical minerals,” CEO Mary Barra said in an interview with Bloomberg Television in New York on Thursday.
“I think we’ll be positioned to have a competitive advantage.”
GM is pledging to sell nothing but plug-in models by the middle of the next decade.
The Detroit automaker has opted to build its own battery pack and dedicated EV platform rather than move quick with converted internal combustion hardware, slowing its initial electric push.
Still, Barra said that output of EV models such as the Hummer pickup, electric Cadillac Lyriq, Chevrolet Silverado pickup and Blazer SUV will ramp up this year.
Securing stable battery-metal supplies would be a boon — especially given the sector’s volatility.
Cobalt prices, for example, rallied sharply last year but have since come crashing down amid a sharp drop-off in purchasing from the Chinese electronics sector.
Nickel briefly soared to over $100,000 a ton in March before ending the year under $30,000.
Lithium became so expensive last year that Chinese factories that typically make ceramics for bathroom tiles produced the EV battery material instead.
GM is part of a bigger trend. Automakers including Ford have signed long-term mineral supply deals.
Germany’s Volkswagen last year agreed to form a €3 billion joint venture with Belgium’s s Umicore for cathode materials.
In 2021, Tesla struck a nickel deal with BHP Group and a cobalt pact with Glencore, and in March that year got involved in a mining venture in New Caledonia.
Those deals may also help the miners.
Barra said GM can provide them with additional cash and will be a stable source of demand thanks to its target to sell 1 million EVs in 2025, and many more beyond that.
Despite its mining foray, GM has some catching up to do on EVs.
The Detroit automaker sold just under 40,000 EVs last year, finishing behind Ford and far short of market leader Tesla.
Barra vowed the company is just getting started, including with Chevrolet’s Equinox and Blazer models coming out this year, which start at around $30,000 and $40,000 to $45,000, respectively.
“These are very affordable vehicles,” the CEO said.
“There is going to be a huge opportunity to sell a lot of them.”
Food for thought on the long and winding road to Manono
Cheers
Frank
TDITD
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Was watching planet of the apes last night with the missus. Suddenly a scene came up that I had never noticed before, it was powerful now I fully understood it.
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Samus
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That's some nice accommodations we've built at Manono. Love the brick and stonework. How the corrupt fuckers can sabotage all this is really a sad situation.
I guess Zijin would put the Chinese in there and build the local workers some humpys to swelter in while they pay them $2 a day.
I guess Zijin would put the Chinese in there and build the local workers some humpys to swelter in while they pay them $2 a day.
John25
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Sammy_da_Smile
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Frank
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*To add, I see where Old China ain't Happy Jan, as
Chinese contract: the IGF report is not "credible", retorts the Chinese Embassy
We regret to note that the report, whose content is full of prejudice, does not correspond to reality, cannot be considered credible and has no constructive value”.
It is in these terms that the Embassy of the People's Republic of China in the Democratic Republic of Congo reacted this Friday, February 17, following the publication of a report by the General Inspectorate of Finance (IGF) denouncing a "imbalance" in the contract signed between the Congolese government and the group of Chinese companies, in the management of certain natural resources of the DRC.
According to the spokesman of the Chinese Embassy, "many tangible achievements prove that the Congolese side has effectively benefited from this cooperation".
The collaboration agreement between the Congolese government and the group of Chinese companies was signed in 2008 and gave rise in particular to the creation of a joint Sino-Congolese company, Sicomines.
Based on an agreement supposed to lead to a “natural resources against infrastructures” program, Sicomines was launched with a share capital of 100 million dollars.
According to the conclusions of the IGF report, this amount was simply disproportionate to the corporate purpose of the joint venture.
He believes that everything is unbalanced and that from the outset it was necessary to assess the contributions of mineral deposits made by Gecamines and this imbalance continued in operations, said the Inspector General of Finance, Jules Alingete, in his report.
Below is the reaction of the Chinese Embassy in the DRC:
Love the way the Chinese Embassy Embassy is commenting on contracts between Congolese government and supposedly independent Chinese companies.
Independent lol.
Also, proves that the criminal nation is rattled at the highest levels.
Tick tock
LithiumKing
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Think the Chinese embassy becoming involved shows how desperate Zijin is. The blackmail also brings this more worldwide attention and looks even more embarrassing for Zijin. I think the fact that the Chinese embassy is involved shows that DRC must be starting to push back
I used to have the notion that Zijin could have that 15% and we move on, but it certainly wouldnt be for fuck all, they would have to pay full price...........but since reading about the black mail letter Zijin sent to Cominiere, i have now acquired a vindictive streak, would now like to see ZIJIN / CHINA exposed as the biggest corruptors thru the highest court in the world.....ICC , APRIL 2023, 2 months away.Yes agree Carlos, odd thing for Klaus to say ; I reckon if AJNs application was withdrawn it would probably suggest that the state was trying to dull down this Cominiere (state) bullshite ; Cominiere accept Zijins offer, use the partitioning to slide the Zijin problem (15%) out of Dathcom and give them the North , which would result also in the 15% going back to cominiere who’d kindly offering it up to AVZ under ROFR...state owned Cominiere getting 29%..wow all sorted...win win for the incompetent !
obviously not the greatest for AVZ, with North being the antidote....imo the North has clearly been the stalling issue with AVZ claiming they didn't renounce the project, but agreeing to it falling back under an Exploration licence under Dathcom I.e not required to apply for it again.
With the reasoning behind the waiver not actually following the mining code ; I suspect that MoM was trying / hoping to force AVZ to the table and end their fight for the North..MoM I assume that she would have known, from the first mention of this reasoning, knew that it wasn't in line with the mining code....
Nigels response as per your post - paraphrasing -'Nah get fucked cunts you're just making shit up the initial decrees still stand according to the mining code'
Yes agree; the response was with sniper precision I reckon ; I don't think it left MoM with much movement ; it's backed her up into a corner imo..but we can see that's she's made a move outside the code....ive never had an issue with MoM, I considered her an allie ; I've heard before that the Chinese we're putting pressure on her to just take the north..this rolled on to just cancelling Dathoms licence, but she's hardline batted then back everytime......but now it appears that she's to ready to take a few shortcuts and deviate..she could well just be using the excuse that it was only ‘partially’ waivered with an intent to push the stalemate forward and only trying to get parties to the table in order to agree on a resolution so as to move forward with the Manono lithium project and she wasn't acting outside the code....but Dathcoms president NF has taken a clear stance, so it appears we’re at a point where something has got to give / break....will Nigels comment basically saying no legal issues around the split be an angle MoM / CAMi / state will now try and leverage off?
I think we’re at the pointy end now where they won't wanna go to ICC and we need to get this project moving ; AJN application in the bin....at this stage is be happy enough to let Zijin run with the 15% and for Dathcom to pull in the north under exploitation ; Zijin get 15% in a potential 2 billion tonne resource for fuck all and mining codes adhered to; give the DRC an extra 5% and move on....
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