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BEISHA

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While i am on the wacky tobaccy.........

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a) hate the fucking french language

b) hate the fucking fact the DRC govt officials are plump whilst the common folk are starving to death...

c) hate the fucking China state govt.

d) hate the fucking fact the world desperately needs supply of lithium but the china state govt / DRC govt is holding the obvious solution up ( MANONO )

e) hate the fucking fact that AVZ management havnt abided by the golden rule of continuous disclosure

f) hate this fucking messy shit show in general.

@MoneyBags1348

Am i giving @TDITD a run for his money ?

:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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TDITD

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While i am on the wacky tobaccy.........

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a) hate the fucking french language

b) hate the fucking fact the DRC govt officials are plump whilst the common folk are starving to death...

c) hate the fucking China state govt.

d) hate the fucking fact the world desperately needs supply of lithium but the china state govt / DRC govt is holding the obvious solution up ( MANONO )

e) hate the fucking fact that AVZ management havnt abided by the golden rule of continuous disclosure

f) hate this fucking messy shit show in general.

@MoneyBags1348

Am i giving @TDITD a run for his money ?

:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Out for lunch with some friends today, wife said in the conversation ‘well at least I know my husband won’t cheat on me’. I replied ‘shows how much you know I’ve been getting fucked by AVZ every single night for years now’
They laughed, she laughed, I laughed…..then died just a little more inside.
 
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BEISHA

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I’m not being a company shill saying this but, expect security to be hired. This is what happened with one BGS meeting when a management there were very unpopular.
I think that's enough, that’ll do pig....that’ll do, now bugger off.

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While i am on the wacky tobaccy.........

View attachment 19718

a) hate the fucking french language

b) hate the fucking fact the DRC govt officials are plump whilst the common folk are starving to death...

c) hate the fucking China state govt.

d) hate the fucking fact the world desperately needs supply of lithium but the china state govt / DRC govt is holding the obvious solution up ( MANONO )

e) hate the fucking fact that AVZ management havnt abided by the golden rule of continuous disclosure

f) hate this fucking messy shit show in general.

@MoneyBags1348

Am i giving @TDITD a run for his money ?

:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

g) I hate the fact you have some wacky baccky and I dont.

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wombat74

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Out for lunch with some friends today, wife said in the conversation ‘well at least I know my husband won’t cheat on me’. I replied ‘shows how much you know I’ve been getting fucked by AVZ every single night for years now’
They laughed, she laughed, I laughed…..then died just a little more inside.
 
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While i am on the wacky tobaccy.........

View attachment 19718

a) hate the fucking french language

b) hate the fucking fact the DRC govt officials are plump whilst the common folk are starving to death...

c) hate the fucking China state govt.

d) hate the fucking fact the world desperately needs supply of lithium but the china state govt / DRC govt is holding the obvious solution up ( MANONO )

e) hate the fucking fact that AVZ management havnt abided by the golden rule of continuous disclosure

f) hate this fucking messy shit show in general.

@MoneyBags1348

Am i giving @TDITD a run for his money ?

:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
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Winenut

TSE is AWESOME GO AVZ
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John25

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Gets a vote but too many correct and neat indentations :cool:
Not Alcohol fuelled plus more +*%##^% needed …too polite as well …actually dont think BEISHA has it in him ,think hes missing @Flashpoint …oh those were the days my friend :)
 
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John25

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Looks like its the West only thread again …
 
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Der Geist

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👆👍✅. Yes they keep dragging it down looking for trolls.

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With all of AVZ’s woes coming to a head in 2022 in a business environment that is inclined to what we call ‘corruption’, it is reassuring CATH engaged AVZ for the TIA and did not abandon. HuaYou also did not sell its shares. Nor Bin Guo’s Lithium plus to my knowledge. Zijin’s proxy did.

Of course many of us are wary of Chinese involvement including management. When I met Nigel in 2019 at the Sydney RIU conference, he was very keen to head ‘West’. Some of us may recall the Swiss engagement and German as well. Even the GHG report signalled a lot, not least company statements on strategic locations.

But the reality was and is the Chinese partners have a well oiled machine to succeed in DRC. We know that.

This brings me to the point of this post which is not so clear to western audiences.

the Ningde era occupies the leading market and directly drives upstream lithium power materials and equipment enterprises closer to the Ningde era

I want to draw your attention to lower case “the” in “the Ningde Era”. 宁德-时代, suggesting that this is CATL’s time, it’s dominion.

This is how the Chinese often use the word ‘Era’ 时代 ‘Shídài’. It is almost dynastic in connotation. In fact we probably have all intuited this fact but we just see it as marketing. But for the CCP and CATL, it really is the Shídài of CATL reflecting the Shidai of China in the world. It is a gigantic hiving entity that draws all the ‘nutrients’ supply chains in and around itself. When the domestic supply chain entities consider an IPO listing it is as a CATL supply chain entity.

Therefore for AVZ, CATH is a client of CATL. And, yes you guessed it, AVZ is an irritant regards to integration into it’s shidai.

Recall that CATL IPO listing commenced at a time the market was still heating up for lithium but in same month offical EV subsidy plans started to be leaked disconnecting lower range vehicles and lower energy density Li battery companies from the ‘boob’ hence a domino effect on supply and demand. (AVZ’s 37cps happened in January), but by June when CATL listed the market was in decline. (We know what Eckhof did signalling that, and despite we were (and are) waiting on BNB’s IPO plans to emerge + more.). Result is CATL worked to pick up cheap pickings including as you know Yibin looking to get a board seat on the cheap. 4.5cps was humiliating. Thanks to the Australian Government they didn’t get a board seat. If they did however, what would that do for the current politics on AVZ shoring up it’s mandate over Manono’s key real estate?

CATL probably doesn’t care. It is developing sodium batteries to take the heat out of the lithium battery market. By the time Manono is in production the prices could be lower. But they may still be higher than anything AVZ’s DFS imagined.

As we often rehearse in our mind when we think about jurisdiction risk, it is occasionally noted the Congolese know what depending on one external state does for its sovereignty. The ‘SHIDAI hiving Ningde’ needs careful resisting Perhaps AVZ finding another partner besides CATH wiii pave the way to make the Chinese more respectful?

The USA really needs to see its client states and partners as ‘Americans’ too. The US needs to embrace AVZ more as one of its own just as it does with the 5 eyes.

A little more on the direction I see, is that China has embarked on the “ideological man” phase, ‘Marxist-Leninism’, with Xi Jingping its emblem of sanctity and authority to-be-on/par with Mao Zedong.

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So you’re suggesting CATL has the power to manipulate market conditions in its favour?
 
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Der Geist

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Second q was a French diplomatic newsletter.source

What’s missing from MMCS claims is a chronology which shows when they first made an administrative appeal. My research back in March 2017, revealed that under the mining code admin appeals can happen without a limit and so executive discretion is required to allow repeats or not. MMCS never showed this stage nor appeal result justification.

There’s also nothing on what they were doing just about ownership rights and Nigel said they weren’t doing anything besides exploiting some artisanals. It was as simple as that.
A State can take back control if it has strategic interests to do so. Congolese appeared rough about it and that’s the sticking point.

Obviously a lot more respect for AVZ from Congolese.
 
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JasonM

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catching up on the thread this morning and its like wow everyone needs to chill a bit, saturday night bender or what it ain that great at the moment but it aint that bad either.
 
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Doc

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catching up on the thread this morning and its like wow everyone needs to chill a bit, saturday night bender or what it ain that great at the moment but it aint that bad either.

Going off recent history I actually thought it was a tame Saturday night. I’m a bit disappointed.
Maybe Winenut has me desensitized to a good rant
 
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For once the Black Caps showed up properly, if only they could play like that everytime instead of choking when it counts.

I'll just leave this here for you to watch again.


Maybe Kiwi's can fly?
 
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Doc

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For once the Black Caps showed up properly, if only they could play like that everytime instead of choking when it counts.

I'll just leave this here for you to watch again.


Maybe Kiwi's can fly?

Why I think Steve Smith should be in the side. Might not be Maxwell flamboyant or raw power of Stoinis etc but when the shit hits the fan and Aussies are 3 for f’all he can hold down an end and give power hitters some breathing room.
 
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