AVZ Discussion 2022

BEISHA

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Absolutely agree here, people are so short-sighted and negative at times, don't make the mistake of placing your own personality on the company.

This IMO is why we have so many wanting to throw in the towel for $1.50, not seeing or hearing what Nigel has been alluding to all along. So many calling for a cheap take over, have the Chinese tactics worked on them. Yet in the shareholder meetings Nigel alluded to ramp ups and Hydroxide plant Aswell as diversifying when the times right. There are clues in interviews and presentations too.

It's quite clear to anyone listening that the BOD intend to go mining, they also want to become a large company an what company with a resource as big as ours wouldn't be a giant in their field, they have the resource to match their ambition and now they are going for it. With all the road blocks China have already thrown in the way these past few years if Nigel an co didn't want to go mining they would already be out.

We got people saying our BOD aren't up to it, they can't run a 10mtpa mine get a rail up and a lithium hydroxide plant. 🤦‍♂️ hmmm
On what great authority do you make that call? is twiggy here? Elon musk? didn't think so. They may or may not be able to but lets be honest anyone trying to pretend they know with absolute certainty is tugging themselves. Alot of projection IMO.

Somebody better have a word with Jeff Bezos that bastard started Amazon in his garage (he can't do that). Now would we call that a microcap company? All companies start off small/micro, they grow into larger companies or in Amazons case behemoths. BHP/FMG/AVZ no different.

Anyone heard of that company PLS by any chance? their founders had already moved on by the time they got into lithium, Ken Brinsden was running the show, now he has moved on and its Dale Henderson. The board can as the company grows. Oh and for you real negative people that think the board can't handle the project, lets circle back to Jeff Bezos - no qualifications to run a huge company Jeff Bezos the guy who was high up at an investment company, negatives would have been among the people clamouring over each other calling for Bezos to quit as the company grows. Top CEOs don't get a special badge out of a cereal box, they grow into it. Ahem Jeff

If you don't think big you won't achieve big. This is no cheap takeover company, the BOD has told you this, it has the resource to be market maker in hard rock, if the BOD do things right then why cant this company be a giant in 20-30yrs. The fact people refuse to even acknowledge this yet are 'invested' in this company is certainly curious. :unsure:



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I would of thought the reason for CATH being part of the AVZ / DATHCOM equation was their experience in building lithium mines as per specification...........;)

It doesnt get much better than them i would of thought.

AVZ has all the tools to make Roche Dure work.

imo
 
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I agree with you Locky .

I will be one pissed SOB if the chinese get their way of a cheap T/O

Havnt put up with this roller coaster , subterfuge just to get one more bag.

Holding AVZ long term to production and divvie status is where you make the BIG coin.

On top of making big coin, i want to see AVZ make a real difference for the locals and provide huge supply of spod the world desperately needs for the EV revolution, which will greatly assist our climate change predicament , which in turn will provide a better planet for my children and their children....rada, rada rada.

Just to remind.

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And that doesnt include CDL.


AVZ is a game changer ............nothing compares.


What really puzzles the shit out of me .............why is China road blocking Roche Dure in the first place ?

After all, all the offtakes are taken up by the chinese, they need the supply urgently for their monsterous population, especially CATL / CATH with their new lithium hydroxide plant almost complete.

DRC needs this project up and running ASAP too.......if they are to galvanise their dream of being the worlds go to BATTERY HUB.........not to mention the taxes / royalties it would reap to give their country a better life.

This whole disgraceful period from 9/5/22 to now, just doesnt make sense with the bigger picture in mind.

Just my opinion.
*Fyi, Did you see where,

Lithium price smashes new record as supply struggles to feed EV growth

The surge in prices of lithium, the key battery material used to power electric cars, is seemingly unstoppable.
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Lithium carbonate hit a fresh record of 500,500 yuan ($71,315) a ton in China Friday, according to data from Asian Metal Inc.

Prices more than tripled in the past year, inflating the cost of batteries used in electric vehicles, with recent gains driven by strong demand and disruptions at a domestic producing hub.

Consumer support for new-energy vehicles has been gathering pace amid a global transition away from fossil fuels.

The China Passenger Car Association has raised its forecast for sales of EVs to a record 6 million this year, double the total in 2021, while battery usage in the nation is also expected to almost double, according to Bloomberg Intelligence.

Meanwhile, a power crunch during August in Sichuan province — home to more than one-fifth of China’s lithium production — caused two weeks of electricity cuts, hampering supply in an already-squeezed market.

“EV production and sales have held steady in recent months,” according to Rystad Energy, a research firm, which added there are concerns over whether China’s power crisis could return this winter when demand for heating rises.

“This could lead to new power shortages and hit lithium operations,” it wrote, expecting prices to stay firm around this level through to the end of the year.

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China held a meeting to review developments on Thursday and asked the top companies to help stabilize prices, according to the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology.

Producers should not collude on pricing and not quote prices that deviate a lot from costs, it said.

The government will take steps to encourage exploration, stabilize imports and promote recycling, it added.

On Thursday, SQM de Chile SA, the world’s No. 2 lithium producer, predicted a “very tight market” in the years ahead.

SQM sees “slightly higher” prices this quarter from the previous three months and expects prices to stay at similar levels in the fourth quarter, according to a presentation to investors in New York.

Battery-makers and the automobile industry have been rushing to lock in reliable and stable supplies of lithium

Still, the raw-material price hikes are likely to stoke inflation concerns and add cost pressures to the supply chain.

A battery-making unit of China’s top producer, Ganfeng Lithium Co., told customers last week that prices for new orders would be reassessed amid a substantial hike in power-cell costs.

The company supplies small polymer lithium batteries for smart wearable products and Bluetooth headset batteries for companies including Xiaomi Corp.

(By Annie Lee)


*They Seek it here, they seek it there, they seek it just about anywhere, on the Moon if they dare as

Chinese investors plan $2.83 billion metals park in Zimbabwe

Zimbabwe’s government approved a proposal by a group of Chinese investors to establish a $2.83 billion battery-metals park that will process metals including lithium, platinum and nickel, its latest plan to revive its moribund economy.
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Hong Kong Eagle International Investment Holding Ltd. and Pacific Goal Investment Ltd. intend to develop an integrated industrial park that will include lithium-salt and nickel-sulphate plants, and a nickel-chromium alloy smelter, Eagle International said in documents seen by Bloomberg and verified by Secretary for Mines Pfungwa Kunaka.

An agreement on the plan will be signed later on Friday, Deputy Mines Minister Polite Kambamura said.

“The goal of the New Energy Special Economic Zone Industrial Park is to develop an industrial value chain represented by new energy metals such as lithium and nickel, to increase the added value of the mineral products and form a new energy production base that embraced the world while based in Africa,” the company said.

An accelerating shift to electric vehicles and soaring lithium prices have drawn investor interest to Zimbabwe.

Chengxin Lithium Group Co. and Sinomine Resource Group Co. are setting up a joint venture to explore for the metal and Zhejiang Huayou Cobalt Co. plans to invest $300 million to develop the Arcadia lithium mine in the northeast of the country.


The 30-50 square-kilometer (19-square-mile) battery-metals park is expected to be completed by the end of 2025, according to the documents. It would be situated in Mapinga, about 48 kilometers (30 miles) northwest of the capital, Zimbabwe.

Among the projects planned at the park are two 300-megawatt power plants to be built at a cost of $250 million each to provide electricity to the various refineries — the first is expected to be completed by 2024 and the second a year later.

Other proposed infrastructure includes a nickel-sulphate plant at a cost of $1 billion, a nickel-chromium alloy smelter at a cost of $500 million, and a $450 million lithium-salt plant, the documents show.

Lithium carbonate, lithium hydroxide and nickel sulphate are raw materials used to produce lithium batteries, which are used for solar-energy storage. Nickel-chromium alloys are used in stainless steel production.

WA police feature Ioniq 5 squad car at World EV Day

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If you had thought electric vehicles were not as fast or as safe as their fossil-fuelled counterparts, the West Australian police will set you straight. Since July 2022, their operational fleet has included a Hyundai Ioniq 5 EV.

Friday, 9 September, three officers are on hand at Forrest Place, at the heart of Perth city.

They are attending the Perth World EV Day display, and testifying to the benefits of the first electric cop car in Australia.

For World EV Day, Forrest Place became a free EV ‘show and tell’ for the thousands of commuters, who walk from the city’s central railway station to their various destinations.

Some 40-plus electric cars filled most of the 150 metre length of pedestrian mall, the car-owners eager to inform passer-by, to convince the undecided and to persuade the agnostics of the benefits of making the change to an EV.

If none of the dozen or so brands and 25 or more models on display took your fancy, there were those who could fit your beloved old VW Beetle or mini-moke with a battery and turn it into something clean, green and quite unique.

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The early adopters of electric cars have had several years now to discover all the ways in which an EV makes your life easier.

The owner of a BYD T Van (there are just of these three in WA he told me), was sipping a cup of tea he had made on a small electric stove, drawing power from his car battery.

A Kona-owner, who had driven over 100,000kms including several thousand on gravel roads, displayed charts showing savings of $ 30,000 across that distance.

As far as its’ London organisers, Green TV know, Perth was the only Australian capital city to take part in this global celebration of ‘electro-mobility’ (e-mobility).


That term might still sound like a bit of jargon, but batteries are clearly driving change (ok, silly pun, moving right on…).

On a bicycle, a rechargeable battery will make every up-hill push easier.

An event such as the Perth World EV Day is simultaneously global and local, led by ordinary people who can share their everyday experience of driving their cars on real roads.

It is a potent platform for persuasion through community-based conversations outside of the manufacturer’s hype, or nerdy scientific texts, or the necessarily politicised language of government policy.

World EV Day: an idea worth spreading.

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I agree with you Locky .

I will be one pissed SOB if the chinese get their way of a cheap T/O

Havnt put up with this roller coaster , subterfuge just to get one more bag.

Holding AVZ long term to production and divvie status is where you make the BIG coin.

On top of making big coin, i want to see AVZ make a real difference for the locals and provide huge supply of spod the world desperately needs for the EV revolution, which will greatly assist our climate change predicament , which in turn will provide a better planet for my children and their children....rada, rada rada.

Just to remind.

View attachment 16879

And that doesnt include CDL.


AVZ is a game changer ............nothing compares.


What really puzzles the shit out of me .............why is China road blocking Roche Dure in the first place ?

After all, all the offtakes are taken up by the chinese, they need the supply urgently for their monsterous population, especially CATL / CATH with their new lithium hydroxide plant almost complete.

DRC needs this project up and running ASAP too.......if they are to galvanise their dream of being the worlds go to BATTERY HUB.........not to mention the taxes / royalties it would reap to give their country a better life.

This whole disgraceful period from 9/5/22 to now, just doesnt make sense with the bigger picture in mind.

Just my opinion.
China is not roadblocking Roche Dure
FT needs to remove CD of CAMI
one massive roadblock.

Carrier De Lest very valuable and
Nigel is not going to let it go without all legal rights pertaining to Dathcom resolved.
Interesting that Piedmont was invited to the DRC .
One company that has expertise in operating lithium hydroxide plants and Connection with Tesla.
Things that make you go Hmmmm.
If FT wants US investing in the DRC then needs to clean up CAMI.
 
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Wonder what he said?

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In February 2022, Dangote announced the completion of Peugeot assembling facility in Nigeria following his partnership with Stellantis Group, the parent company of Peugeot, the Kano and Kaduna state government. The new automobile company, Dangote Peugeot Automobiles Nigeria Limited (DPAN) factory which is based in Kaduna commenced operations with the roll-out of Peugeot 301, Peugeot 5008, 3008, 508 and Land Trek. "
 
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This was his original post, I read it but didn't caption the translation..couldn't really understand it, something about 20%
 
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This was his original post, I read it but didn't caption the translation..couldn't really understand it, something about 20%
 

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BEISHA

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China is not roadblocking Roche Dure
FT needs to remove CD of CAMI
one massive roadblock.

Carrier De Lest very valuable and
Nigel is not going to let it go without all legal rights pertaining to Dathcom resolved.
Interesting that Piedmont was invited to the DRC .
One company that has expertise in operating lithium hydroxide plants and Connection with Tesla.
Things that make you go Hmmmm.
If FT wants US investing in the DRC then needs to clean up CAMI.
Oh I agree mate, but Zijin ( china state owned ) aka ICC arbitration aka snacks with cominiere was where i was coming from ......;)

I should have been more specific.

CDL in my eyes is more valuable than Roche Dure ( 3+ times larger ) and yes of course, Nigel needs to fight hard to retain that prize in its entirety.

I really dont care what DRC / CAMI do with any other tenements AVZ might have..........RD + Tin + CDL is all we need to be a monster for many moons to come

PLL is a interesting development thats for sure.

God i would love to be a fly in the inner sanctum.

imo
 
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CHB

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He only understood this week?

Shareholders knew over 5 months ago
 
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wombat74

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"The Company is confident of a positive outcome for it’s "shareholders"
What do Shareholders care about ? The share price . It's about the share price .Nothing else matters . Nothing . Not the share price in 3 years time . The share price now .You bought at $1.20 after doing your research .After listening to the Company. You are one pissed off
mother . It's about the share price now and the share price when we begin trading . "Positive outcome for Shareholders." Has to be the share price . Until every punter is above breaking even this a complete failure . Now either the Company has had blistering heat rain down on them from share holders Or they have a deal on the table that will see the SP rise above ATH . Shareholder = Share Price .
 
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Winenut

GO AVZ!!!!
Aagh, so you are another perth lad hey ?

Not wishing to brag brother, but i was the junior state champion from 10 - 18yrs.

Top 10 in Australia too.........used to school Todd Woodbridge and Jason Stoltenburg whilst i was at it.

I was 16yrs when i played mens A grade ..............i also got to play against Stefan Edberg and Yannick Noah when the WA open was played at Kings Park as a feeder to the Australian Open when it was played on grass.........

Oh those were the days..........:unsure:

Now i am just a fat slob playing golf............:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
LOL!

Naaahh

Not a Sandgroper

The old man was though. He played tennis but more notably soccer for North Perth back in the day

I travelled to Perth in my early years through soccer representative sides

You're tennis exploits though sound remarkable ....good on you!

The old man's best friend growing up in Perth was a great bloke called Les Hoft

Les played soccer and was also a very good tennis player....which is why we got to play at Applecross when I was there and go prawning in the Swan

Amazing how great memories from 45 years ago stay with you...;):cool:

Can't wait for a $2 party in WA......there are a million or two different reasons why I'm looking forward that! 🙂
 
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Winenut

GO AVZ!!!!
Hello all - have come over to the dark side to see what all the fuss is about!
Roon Aus from the Crapper?
 
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Xerof

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I would of thought the reason for CATH being part of the AVZ / DATHCOM equation was their experience in building lithium mines as per specification...........;)

It doesnt get much better than them i would of thought.

AVZ has all the tools to make Roche Dure work.

imo
Sorry, CATL and CATH have never developed lithium mines to date. That’s why Chyna are desperate to get into control of raw materials. It is their archilles heel

The fly through of the planned operation looks very straight forward. Logistics will be where the issues arise IMO
 
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BEISHA

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Sorry, CATL and CATH have never developed lithium mines to date. That’s why Chyna are desperate to get into control of raw materials. It is their archilles heel
Oh, ok my bad.

Thought they did, along with producing high grade batteries.........

Must of got them confused with Zijin.....;)

Rookie error on my part
 
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Samus

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I just fail to see the logic that management would not be capable to bring this to production. They only need to do what they always do.
Organise and delegate the workload to others with a shit ton of money behind them.
Isn't that what the FEED study etc is about?

Problem is the DRC can't seem to take their finger out of their own ass. We've been ready for 12+ months. The only thing holding this up is the corrupted motives and botched handling by the DRC.
Useless as tits on a bull.
 
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Xerof

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From Fridays Ministerial meeting ……

Sale and long-term concession of State assets
In order to put an end to the abuses observed in the past, which have led to the gradual dispossession of the State of a significant part of its mining, land and real estate heritage, without significant compensation, the President of the Republic encouraged the Government to ensure transparency and respect for the Laws in its action aimed at recovering the real estate heritage of the private domain of the State, held or acquired unduly by third parties.
Taking stock of the situation, he insisted on the imperative need to regulate the management of public heritage, including its administration and disposal, through strict measures.
To this end, any initiative relating to an assignment or disposal of State assets should be submitted for adoption by the Council of Ministers, after having received the approval of the relevant supervisory Ministries and the opinion of the National Agency for the Protection of State Property Heritage.
Calling on the Government to set up effective mechanisms to strengthen the existing legal and regulatory system so that it is quickly possible to recover, on the one hand, public property illegally snatched from its heritage and, on the other hand, to To avoid the mistakes of the past, the President of the Republic has instructed the Prime Minister to ensure strict compliance with this recommendation.
 
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Xerof

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Is this the new roadblock?

Hopefully only applies to new applications.

On the bright side, they’re clearly going after the dodgy stuff from the past - King Cong comes to mind
 
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