Bravo
If ARM was an arm, BRN would be its biceps💪!
An older article but a worthwhile reminder. I gather the big step he's referring to is launching their MMA platform in 2025 which will feature the first official MB.OS version?
Hi FACT FINDER,Hi FL
The known FACTS:
Renesas licensed 2 nodes of Brainchip’s AKIDA technology.
EE Times published the following statement:
“Renesas is taping out a chip using the spiking neural network (SNN) technology developed by Brainchip.
This is part of a move to boost the leading edge performance of its chips for the Internet of Things, Sailesh Chittipeddi became Executive Vice President and General Manager of IoT and Infrastructure Business Unit at Renesas Electronics and the former CEO of IDT tells eeNews Europe”
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Renesas tapes out spiking neural network chip
Renesas is taping out a chip using Brainchip's spiking neural network (SNN) technology and expanding internal and foundry capacitywww.eenewseurope.com
Brainchip published this article on the website thereby adopting it as a true statement for which they can be held liable.
ARM confirmed AKIDA technology is compatible with all ARM process including Cortex M85.
Brainchip has confirmed that AKIDA technology is compatible with all ARM process including M85.
Renesas and ARM announced that Renesas is using M85.
Neither Renesas , ARM or Brainchip have said that Renesas is combining M85 with AKIDA technology.
The only place where I have read that Renesas is combining M85 with AKIDA is on TSEx and HC. The authors have never provided any proof that this is occurring.
I see no reason to believe Renesas is combining M85 with AKIDA.
My opinion only DYOR
FACT FINDER
What he said!Just thinking IF we get plenty of mentions at CES 2024 from companies like Valeo, Mercedes, etc... the SP could/will boom and Sean Hehir will be a Hero... comments on here will all have positive vibes... the silly second S words will never be mentioned again... I invested because I thought it was a great idea... invested time and time again as we validated the Akida 1000 works on Silicon and still investing because the price is just too good to resist... we have come a long way and I personally feel excited by the amount of Partners with Huge names in the industry... we are only going forwards and my confidence in Management and the BOD's is as strong as ever...reading stuff on here makes me wonder why some even invested in the first place. FOMO instead of Research maybe. Each to their own.. im a long term invester and believe in the company after plenty of reseach over the years...lets be a little more forgiving . Our time will come... my opinion only...
This is even older, but it confirms MB.OS will use Nvidia software, AI expertise, and Orin SoC, as well as Lumimar radar.An older article but a worthwhile reminder. I gather the big step he's referring to is launching their MMA platform in 2025 which will feature the first official MB.OS version?
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Yeah, he said "IF" which is all we ever get to be honestWhat he said!
Now that you've corrected it, everyone thinks I've been drinking again - well they're wrong - it's not "again", it's "still".He-he-he! Yes, I uncrossed my eyes for a split second and discovered I had typed “ties” instead of “toes”, so I edited my post. Note to self: no typing when eyes are crossed.
Though, to temper expectations I've found this project via Adante.ai which involved Valeo, GML and CEA on neuromorphic.Pretty sure probs posted before but if not....from the Valeo site mid last month.
If I'm not mistaken, Akida does 3D point cloud from memory and definitely AI perception, so who knows...maybe just maybe at CES 24 I hope
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Valeo SCALA™ 3 LiDAR (Light Detection & Ranging) receives prestigious CES 2024 Innovation Award
Valeo is proud to announce that our SCALA™ 3 LiDAR is a CES 2024 Innovation Award honoree in the category "Vehicle Tech & Advanced Mobility"www.valeo.com
VALEO GROUP | 16 NOV, 2023 | 7 MIN
Valeo SCALA 3 LiDAR (Light Detection & Ranging) receives prestigious CES 2024 Innovation Award
Valeo is proud to announce that our SCALA 3 LiDAR is a CES 2024 Innovation Award honoree in the category "Vehicle Tech & Advanced Mobility".
As the industry recognises the key role of LiDAR technology in the development of autonomous mobility, this award acknowledges once again Valeo’s leading role as a pioneer in bringing this technology to the automotive industry and in producing it at scale.
SCALA 3, Valeo’s 3rd generation LiDAR perception system, offers an automotive-grade high resolution LiDAR (Light Detection & Ranging) sensor, allowing advanced perception in all conditions meeting the highest automotive industry quality and safety standards. SCALA 3 high-density point cloud and associated AI-based perception software enables high-speed autonomous driving on highways in a wider range of conditions, dramatically increasing the end-user value of Level 3 systems through a large extension of their domain of operation and the scalability of Level 4 robotaxi fleet.
Valeo’s capability to deliver on its promises is recognised by clients around the world. Valeo LiDAR equips the only Level 3 passenger cars authorized in Europe, and we have announced in March 2023 orders over the past 18 months worth more than 1 billion euros for Valeo SCALA 3. Valeo, the global leader in Advanced Driver Assistance Systems (ADAS), was the first, and remains the leading company, in the production of automotive LiDAR sensors and perception software on an industrial scale for Level 3 autonomous driving.
At CES 2024 from Jan. 8 to 12, Valeo will present at its booth its awards winning SCALA 3 LiDAR and, for the first time, will give visitors the opportunity to experience and learn more about our AI-based perception software and how it helps classify objects identified by the LiDAR in the Point Cloud.
Marc Vrecko, President of Valeo Comfort and Driving Assistance explains “Valeo has been among the first actors of the automotive industry to believe in LiDAR’s role as the keystone of autonomous mobility. We are honored to receive a CES 2024 Innovation Award that recognises our vision and technological leadership. Today, as most automakers work on bringing Level 3 autonomy to the market, we are ready to support them with our best-in-class technology. After more than 10 years of development and more than five years of production, our LiDAR is already in use on vehicles around the world, contributing significantly to the enhanced safety of road users as well as to offering a great step forward in the development of automated mobility. Valeo is a partner in the innovation being deployed worldwide and is today the only company able to offer both a LiDAR technology with outstanding performance and a unique capability to produce automotive grade LiDAR systems at scale.“
Renasas need not share with the market even if they used our IP in a product. They can say in home developments and brainchip is happy with the royalties only.Posts like the above make me wonder.
Why does Renesas use something on an ARM chip, that we supposedly can do, with "one-shot learning", power efficiency and everything else we are the best at? They had to use 30 million images to train their models (if I remember the number correctly).
Aren't we partners with both these companies? So....
- Are we too expensive?
- Too hard to work with?
- Not where we claim to be in the real world?
- Is this the proof in a roundabout way why nothing has kicked off in full flight yet?
Lots of questions... happy to have someone explain this to me without the usual belittling or being called downramper or whatever else the flavour of the week is.
Hi FLHi FACT FINDER,
Thank you very much for your time.
Those are the facts indeed (or should it be FACTS). However, to me, this does not address my question as to why they are not using us. I did not mention that they all collectively stated that AKIDA would be used. I simply asked why are they using something else, which requires 30 million plus images to train, when we supposedly can do this as a one-shot.
I am just trying to understand that if we are so superior then how come, known partners are not even using us...
Hi FL
There are probably a host of reasons based on FACTS and logic that could be applied to address this question before leaping to the conclusion you are suggesting.
For example firstly we know the following:
1. Edge Impulse and BrainChip Partner to Further AI Development with Support for the Akida platform
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Edge Impulse
03 Jan, 2023, 08:00 ET
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SAN JOSE, Calif., Jan. 3, 2023 /PRNewswire/ -- Edge Impulse announced today official support for BrainChip's neural processor AI IP, making BrainChip the first strategic IP partner on the Edge Impulse platform. This integration will enable users to leverage the power of Edge Impulse's machine learning platform, combined with the high-performance neural processing capabilities of BrainChip's Akida™ to develop and deploy powerful edge-based solutions.
Among the products supported by Edge Impulse is BrainChip's AKD1000 SoC, the first available device with Akida IP for developers. This comes with a BrainChip Akida PCIe reference board, which can be plugged into a developer's existing system to unlock capabilities for a wide array of edge AI use cases, including Automotive, Consumer, Home, and Industrial applications.
The Akida IP platform provides low-power, high-performance edge AI acceleration, designed to enable real-time machine learning inferencing on-device. Based on neuromorphic principles that mimic the brain, Akida supports today's models and workloads while future-proofing for emerging trends in efficient AI. Now devices with the Akida IP supported by Edge Impulse can enable users to sample raw data, build models, and deploy trained embedded machine learning models directly from Edge Impulse Studio to create the next generation of low-power, high-performance ML applications.
"This integration will provide users with a powerful and easy-to-use solution for building and deploying machine learning models on the edge," said Zach Shelby, co-founder and CEO of Edge Impulse. "We look forward to seeing what our users will create with BrainChip's AI offering."
"BrainChip's goal is to push the limits of on-chip AI compute to extremely energy-constrained sensor devices, the kind of performance that is only available in much higher power systems." said Sean Hehir, BrainChip's CEO. "Having our Akida IP supported and implemented into the Edge Impulse platform helps ensure that developers are able to deploy ML solutions quickly and easily to create a much more capable, innovative, and truly intelligent edge."
Edge Impulse and BrainChip have an established relationship, previously announcing cross-platform support, including support for deploying Edge Impulse projects on the BrainChip MetaTF platform. Some of the features in which the user community can leverage include:
The ongoing combination of BrainChip's Akida technology and Edge Impulse's platform, tools, and services will allow customers to achieve their ML objectives with fast and efficient development cycles to get to market quicker and achieve a competitive advantage."
- BrainChip's transfer learning block on Edge Impulse design studio
- Quantization Aware Training (QAT)
- The introduction of FOMO for BrainChip's Akida
- Generation of BrainChip's compatible Edge Learning Models
- No-code binary generation for quick AKD1000 deployment
- Performance metrics for model profiling
Secondly we know that Nvidia think so highly of the Edge Impulse platform and how easy it makes it for developers to implement they have become a partner and allow full access to their software platform for this purpose.
Thirdly we know unlike Governments companies like Renesas have corporate plans stretching 5, 10, 15 years into the future which they implement and it is not logical to expect that their corporate plan to implement AKIDA in a low end MCU is going to be changed overnight when we have evidence that they have been following that plan since at least 2000 through to November, 2022 into 2023.
Finally we all know that multiple analysts, companies, research engineers and scientists have test AKIDA technology and come to the same conclusion that Edge Impulse has in particular Tata Consulting Group and Tata Elxsi.
I know that we have a range of people on this site and accordingly a range of views but to ignore all the above primary evidence and leap straight to your conclusion that because you are not being told by Renesas what its corporate plans are that it could actually mean that AKIDA technology is a dog just 'does not compute' as a famous robot from Lost in Space used to say.
Your statement that 'known partners are not using us' is of course incorrect as you would well know so I assume this is one of those emotional statements that we dismiss when our partners are making a point.
You are however not my partner and I am an investor in Brainchip as apparently you are so why are you prepared to make this statement which if accepted by casual readers of this site may influence their opinion of Brainchip and its technology?
As I have taken the time to address your questions I would like you to address my question now even if your answer is I did not really mean that I was just being emotional and exaggerating.
My opinion only DYOR
Fact Finder
I am sorry... my voice nor my intellect would reach the heights of the equine upon which you are seated...Hi FL
There are probably a host of reasons based on FACTS and logic that could be applied to address this question before leaping to the conclusion you are suggesting.
For example firstly we know the following:
1. Edge Impulse and BrainChip Partner to Further AI Development with Support for the Akida platform
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NEWS PROVIDED BY
Edge Impulse
03 Jan, 2023, 08:00 ET
SHARE THIS ARTICLE
SAN JOSE, Calif., Jan. 3, 2023 /PRNewswire/ -- Edge Impulse announced today official support for BrainChip's neural processor AI IP, making BrainChip the first strategic IP partner on the Edge Impulse platform. This integration will enable users to leverage the power of Edge Impulse's machine learning platform, combined with the high-performance neural processing capabilities of BrainChip's Akida™ to develop and deploy powerful edge-based solutions.
Among the products supported by Edge Impulse is BrainChip's AKD1000 SoC, the first available device with Akida IP for developers. This comes with a BrainChip Akida PCIe reference board, which can be plugged into a developer's existing system to unlock capabilities for a wide array of edge AI use cases, including Automotive, Consumer, Home, and Industrial applications.
The Akida IP platform provides low-power, high-performance edge AI acceleration, designed to enable real-time machine learning inferencing on-device. Based on neuromorphic principles that mimic the brain, Akida supports today's models and workloads while future-proofing for emerging trends in efficient AI. Now devices with the Akida IP supported by Edge Impulse can enable users to sample raw data, build models, and deploy trained embedded machine learning models directly from Edge Impulse Studio to create the next generation of low-power, high-performance ML applications.
"This integration will provide users with a powerful and easy-to-use solution for building and deploying machine learning models on the edge," said Zach Shelby, co-founder and CEO of Edge Impulse. "We look forward to seeing what our users will create with BrainChip's AI offering."
"BrainChip's goal is to push the limits of on-chip AI compute to extremely energy-constrained sensor devices, the kind of performance that is only available in much higher power systems." said Sean Hehir, BrainChip's CEO. "Having our Akida IP supported and implemented into the Edge Impulse platform helps ensure that developers are able to deploy ML solutions quickly and easily to create a much more capable, innovative, and truly intelligent edge."
Edge Impulse and BrainChip have an established relationship, previously announcing cross-platform support, including support for deploying Edge Impulse projects on the BrainChip MetaTF platform. Some of the features in which the user community can leverage include:
The ongoing combination of BrainChip's Akida technology and Edge Impulse's platform, tools, and services will allow customers to achieve their ML objectives with fast and efficient development cycles to get to market quicker and achieve a competitive advantage."
- BrainChip's transfer learning block on Edge Impulse design studio
- Quantization Aware Training (QAT)
- The introduction of FOMO for BrainChip's Akida
- Generation of BrainChip's compatible Edge Learning Models
- No-code binary generation for quick AKD1000 deployment
- Performance metrics for model profiling
Secondly we know that Nvidia think so highly of the Edge Impulse platform and how easy it makes it for developers to implement they have become a partner and allow full access to their software platform for this purpose.
Thirdly we know unlike Governments companies like Renesas have corporate plans stretching 5, 10, 15 years into the future which they implement and it is not logical to expect that their corporate plan to implement AKIDA in a low end MCU is going to be changed overnight when we have evidence that they have been following that plan since at least 2000 through to November, 2022 into 2023.
Finally we all know that multiple analysts, companies, research engineers and scientists have test AKIDA technology and come to the same conclusion that Edge Impulse has in particular Tata Consulting Group and Tata Elxsi.
I know that we have a range of people on this site and accordingly a range of views but to ignore all the above primary evidence and leap straight to your conclusion that because you are not being told by Renesas what its corporate plans are that it could actually mean that AKIDA technology is a dog just 'does not compute' as a famous robot from Lost in Space used to say.
Your statement that 'known partners are not using us' is of course incorrect as you would well know so I assume this is one of those emotional statements that we dismiss when our partners are making a point.
You are however not my partner and I am an investor in Brainchip as apparently you are so why are you prepared to make this statement which if accepted by casual readers of this site may influence their opinion of Brainchip and its technology?
As I have taken the time to address your questions I would like you to address my question now even if your answer is I did not really mean that I was just being emotional and exaggerating.
My opinion only DYOR
Fact Finder
oh yes... all the royalties all the many many many royaltiesRenasas need not share with the market even if they used our IP in a product. They can say in home developments and brainchip is happy with the royalties only.
Thank you for not answering my question as my long lingering doubts regarding your motivations are no longer doubts.I am sorry... my voice nor my intellect would reach the heights of the equine upon which you are seated...
Enjoy and good luck to all of us... I for one, uninformed and all, think we need it!
/FL.
I am sorry... my voice nor my intellect would reach the heights of the equine upon which you are seated...
Enjoy and good luck to all of us... I for one, uninformed and all, think we need it!
/FL.
Long lingering doubts.... hilarious, given we have had no real interactions. But sure sure... Enjoy the viewThank you for not answering my question as my long lingering doubts regarding your motivations are no longer doubts.
Perhaps you would be best served by working with T&J on HC as he needs a break.
My opinion only DYOR
FACT FINDER