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[Fullmoonfever]

Recent Indian article on MBRDI in India.

Neuromorphic and ChatGPT anyone?

Couple of excerpts.

How Mercedes-Benz is driving a culture of innovation at its research and development centre By embracing innovation, the company is empowering its workforce to adopt a mindset that encourages thinking beyond conventional boundaries

By Radhika Sharma | HRKatha -June 23, 2023

Read more at: https://www.hrkatha.com/features/how-mercedes-benz-is-driving-a-culture-of-innovation/

Mercedes-Benz Research and Development India (MBRDI) recognises the pivotal role of innovation in promoting a healthy work culture. “One aspect that sets us apart is our work culture and emphasis on employee well-being. As the largest research and development centre of Mercedes-Benz outside of Germany, with a growing workforce, we have established ourselves as a powerhouse for delivering cutting-edge technology and innovation. Our primary focus is to drive the future of sustainable mobility, ensuring high quality, safety and innovation. Our commitment to innovation extends beyond technology and is reflected in our progressive work culture,” points out Mahesh Medhekar, vice president-human resources, Mercedes-Benz Research and Development India.


Innovation learning: The company focuses on innovation learning for its employees. Recently, it hosted a seminar on biomimicry — a field that combines generative AI and neuromorphic computing to emulate the human brain’s behaviour. This cutting-edge science allows MBRDI to enhance the capabilities of its vehicles, enabling them to understand and respond to the driver’s behaviour, ensuring safety and comfort. “Innovation learning encompasses various aspects, including deep learning, software patterns and techniques such as design thinking, all aimed at fostering innovation within our organisation. These practices serve as key pillars in our pursuit of continuous innovation,” enunciates Medhekar.

“Innovation learning encompasses various aspects, including deep learning, software patterns and techniques such as design thinking, all aimed at fostering innovation within our organisation. These practices serve as key pillars in our pursuit of continuous innovation.” Mahesh Medhekar, vice president-human resources, Mercedes-Benz Research and Development India

 

[Fullmoonfever]

Do we know where nViso gets their MCUs?

Akida 1500 could work with MCUs. All that is needed is sufficient processing power and memory to enable configuration od Akida and to handle the output from Akida.

We know Renesas has a licence for 2 nodes (8 NPUs), but I don't know how many nodes are required for nViso's functions like face recognition.

nViso is a BrainChip partner, so it may not need a licence:


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BrainChip and NVISO are targeting battery-powered applications in robotics and mobility devices addressing the need for high levels of AI performance in ultra low power environments. Implementing NVISO’s AI solutions with BrainChip’s Akida drive next generation solutions.



This is another signpost to Akida:

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Wondered if you were fishing in Renesas' pond

Not inconceivable....they taped out for an unnamed 3rs party

 

[Diogenese]

Wondered if you were fishing in Renesas' pond

Not inconceivable....they taped out for an unnamed 3rs party

But just to muddy the waters, Akida is qualified across ARMs range of processors, not to mention Intel, MegaChips, ...

 

[Fullmoonfever]

Geez....we might need a bigger bandwagon

On May 2023, EDI started the implementation of a new Horizon Europe project (EcoMobility) with the goal to develop a connected transportation ecosystem – Elektronikas un datorzinātņu institūts

On May 2023, EDI started the implementation of a new Horizon Europe project (EcoMobility) with the goal to develop a connected transportation ecosystem​

ELEKTRONIKAS UN DATORZINĀTŅU INSTITŪTS > NEWS > ON MAY 2023, EDI STARTED THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A NEW HORIZON EUROPE PROJECT (ECOMOBILITY) WITH THE GOAL TO DEVELOP A CONNECTED TRANSPORTATION ECOSYSTEM
30. June, 2023

“Improved automotive vision systems are a crucial stepping stone towards safe and sustainable transportation, hence developing reliable and energy efficient solutions is in the center of attention. To address this challenge, the field of neuromorphic computing, a brain-inspired branch of AI, holds great promise. Specifically, spiking neural networks (SNNs), which mimic the structure and functionality of the nervous system, offer notable advantages such as speed and energy efficiency. Until now, the lack of efficient hardware accelerators has hindered the widespread adoption of SNNs. Nevertheless, this situation is rapidly changing, and EDI, with its expertise in reconfigurable logic devices, is well-positioned to contribute to further advancements in this field of research,”

on new frontiers in neuromorphic machine perception reflects Edgars Lielāmurs, the research assistant at EDI.

 

[Fullmoonfever]

But just to muddy the waters, Akida is qualified across ARMs range of processors, not to mention Intel, MegaChips, ...

 

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[Frangipani]

IPR Silicone IP Ltd, has anyone come across useful information? I was curious if IPR resided in a tech precinct.
After working at ARM Mauro Diamant started IPro Silicon while simultaneously working for Tiempo, Signature IP, and SiFive all of which are listed as IP vendor partners. I feel I am missing something....

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@Jasonk, thank you, danke, תודה (toh-dah)!
You have actually just provided me with yet another puzzle piece to confirm what I had so far suspected but figured was maybe a bit too speculative!!!

Despite the rather unprofessional looking IPro Silicon IP website featuring an eclectic mix of random stock photos (!) weirdly not from Israel, but of what appears to be a Central European wintery landscape, an Icelandic waterfall and sportsfishing charter boats off the coast of Baja California, Mexico, I am convinced that Brainchip’s management knew exactly what they were doing when entrusting Mauro Diamant with representing Brainchip in Israel, a start-up nation with excellent scientists and researchers on the forefront of technology, a country that despite its relatively small size should not be underestimated as a market for Brainchip’s technology! On the contrary…

Just like you, @Jasonk, I was expecting IPro Silicon IP to reside in a tech precinct, somewhere in the so-called Silicon Wadi (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Wadi), most likely in or around Tel Aviv, Haifa or Be’er Scheva. Imagine my surprise when I googled Shomera ( שׁוֹמֵרָה, lit. “guard”) and discovered it to be a moshav (similar to a kibbutz) with a population of less than 400 (2021), a small village near the Lebanese border!

I immediately thought of a connection to the IDF (Israeli Defence Forces) that are busy 24/7 monitoring the border to Lebanon (or rather the UN-recognised Blue Line, as there is no formal border due to territorial disputes, and the two countries technically remain at war) to protect Israel from Hezbollah attacks. Drones are one important tool for guarding the border - and this is, among other things, where Brainchip’s coveted technology comes in! UAVs (unmanned aerial vehicles) are a perfect use case for Akida.

On his website, Mauro Diamant states that his contact details are Hametzuda, Shomera. HaMetzuda המצודה literally means “the fortress / stronghold", which can easily be associated with a military base, and unsurprisingly there is the Shomera Armory nearby, home of the 300th Bar’am (Reserve) Infantry Brigade, one of the Northern Command brigades. (On one of the maps I googled it is however marked as having been closed down. If that is the case, maybe a new compound was built in Shomera itself?)

My Ivrith (modern Hebrew) is alas, very limited, and googling HaMetzuda either came up with info on the ancient Citadel of Acre (Akko) or various street names all over Israel. So since I hadn’t been able to confirm this further so far, I wasn’t sure whether my conjecture would be considered too far-stretched if I posted it at this point in time.

However, now seeing IPro Silicon IP registered at “Hatmar 1”, I am pretty confident that I am indeed on to something… My bet would be that Hatmar 1 is an address inside an IDF regional territorial brigade (Hatmar) compound.
Anyone fluent in Hebrew that could confirm my suspicion?

P.S.: The Mansion Lake Boutique’s address (Givat Tamir 1) is not the same one as the one IPro Silicon IP is registered at (Hatmar 1)…

 

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[Frangipani]

Morning Equanimous,

Cheers for checking.

Normally I can speak into my phone , Brainchip Twitter, and it takes me directly to our twitter page where I can paruse to a limited degree.

Today for whatever reason this article popped up first & when clicked on it went to twitter then kept locking up.

Thanks once again, I'll leave the sleuthing to the professionals.

Regards,
Esq.

Hi there, @Esq.111 - I don’t have a Twitter account either, but just like you was still able to read tweets most of the time. Elon Musk, however, unfortunately decided on some changes last week, so that is the reason why you can no longer access the Brainchip Twitter page without creating an account and logging in. I’d assume the tweet you were mentioning was probably still in your cache?

Twitter has started blocking unregistered users

Elon Musk blamed “data pillage” and claims the move is temporary.

www.theverge.com

Twitter has started blocking unregistered users​

/

If you want to browse tweets, user profiles, and comment threads on the web, then you need to be signed in to a Twitter account.​

By Jess Weatherbed, a news writer focused on creative industries, computing, and internet culture. Jess started her career at TechRadar, covering news and hardware reviews.
Updated Jun 30, 2023, 11:36 PM GMT+2|132 Comments / 132 New

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The new sign-in prompt now appears as soon as you try to access Twitter and removes the previously available background preview.

Image: Twitter / The Verge
Update July 1st, 2:42PM ET: Elon Musk has now limited Twitter access for everyone, requiring a verified account to read more than 600 posts per day. The original article continues below.

If you currently try to access Twitter without logging in to your user account, you’ll be unable to see any of the content that was previously available to the wider public. Instead, you’ll meet a Twitter window that asks you to either sign in to the platform or create a new account, effectively blocking you from viewing tweets and user profiles or browsing through threads unless you’re a registered Twitter user.

Twitter didn’t immediately make a public announcement, making it unclear if this was an intentional update or another technical mishap. Later on Friday, however, Twitter owner Elon Musk tweeted, claimingin a reply that the change is a “Temporary emergency measure,” blaming “data pillaging” for degrading the service for all users.

In a reply to Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney complaining about how pay and account walls break the internet, Musk claimed, “Several hundred organizations (maybe more) were scraping Twitter data extremely aggressively, to the point where it was affecting the real user experience” without providing any more specifics.

We have seen some Twitter problems become more common recently, like broken previews in other apps like Discord, Slack, and iMessage, and Mashable recently reported that even people who pay the steep new rate for API access say they’ve seen unannounced changes, bugs, and no customer support. From the outside, we don’t know if that’s because of the scrapers Musk notes or his own attempts to cut costs that included layoffs within the teams that help keep Twitter’s servers running and reportedly leaving a Google Cloud bill unpaid for months before recently resuming payments, according to Bloomberg.

Prior to this change, Twitter allowed people limited access to the platform without an account — you could view public tweets and user profiles, for example, but couldn’t like or leave comments.

A window that prevented readers from viewing additional posts until they signed in also previously appeared after the viewer had scrolled past an undisclosed number of tweets, though that at least allowed some access to the platform.

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You can apparently try the following method, though, as long as it still works:

 

[cosors]

@Jasonk, thank you, danke, תודה (toh-dah)!
You have actually just provided me with yet another puzzle piece to confirm what I had so far suspected but figured was maybe a bit too speculative!!!

Despite the rather unprofessional looking IPro Silicon IP website featuring an eclectic mix of random stock photos (!) weirdly not from Israel, but of a Central European looking wintery landscape, an Icelandic waterfall and sportsfishing charter boats off the coast of Baja California, Mexico, I am convinced that Brainchip’s management knew exactly what they were doing when entrusting Mauro Diamant with representing Brainchip in Israel, a start-up nation with excellent scientists and researchers on the forefront of technology, a country that despite its relatively small size should not be underestimated as a market for Brainchip’s technology! On the contrary…

Just like you, @Jasonk, I was expecting IPro Silicon IP to reside in a tech precinct in the so-called Silicon Wadi (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Wadi), most probably somewhere in or around Tel Aviv, Haifa or Be’er Scheva. Imagine my surprise when I googled Shomera ( שׁוֹמֵרָה, lit. “guard”) and discovered it to be a moshav (similar to a kibbutz) with a population of less than 400 (2021), a small village near the Lebanese border!

I immediately thought of a connection to the IDF (Israeli Defence Forces) that are busy 24/7 monitoring the vast border to Lebanon (or rather the UN-recognised Blue Line, as there is no formal border due to territorial disputes, and the two countries technically remain at war) to protect Israel from Hezbollah attacks. Drones are one important tool for guarding the border - and this is, among other things, where Brainchip’s coveted technology comes in! UAVs (unmanned aerial vehicles) are a perfect use case for Akida.

On his website, Mauro Diamant states that his contact details are Hametzuda, Shomera. HaMetzuda המצודה literally means “the fortress / stronghold", which can easily be associated with a military base, and unsurprisingly there is the Shomera Armory nearby, home of the 300th Bar’am (Reserve) Infantry Brigade, one of the Northern Command brigades. (On one of the maps I googled it is however marked as having been closed down. If that is the case, maybe a new compound was built in Shomera itself?)

My Ivrith (modern Hebrew) is alas, very limited, and googling HaMetzuda either came up with info on the ancient Citadel of Acre (Akkon) or various street names all over Israel. So since I hadn’t been able to confirm this further so far, I wasn’t sure whether my conjecture would be considered too far-stretched if I posted it at this point in time.

However, now seeing IPro Silicon IP registered at “Hatmar 1”, I am pretty confident that I am indeed on to something… My bet would be that Hatmar 1 is an address inside an IDF regional territorial brigade (Hatmar) compound.
Anyone fluent in Hebrew that could confirm my suspicion?

P.S.: The Mansion Lake Boutique’s address (Givat Tamir 1) is not the same one as the one IPro Silicon IP is registered at (Hatmar 1)…

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Research in Hebrew is a bit tricky but fun for me. I know this from Weebit. The wording does not actually exist in Hebrew. When translated back there are four variants. It took me a long time to correct all the texts. In Israel much takes place what interests us and therefore probably also the first and now following offensive in Israel. They are in any case always close on what is technologically leading and do not listen to fools at all.

 

[Esq.111]

Hi there, @Esq.111 - I don’t have a Twitter account either, but just like you was still able to read tweets most of the time. Elon Musk, however, unfortunately decided on some changes last week, so that is the reason why you can no longer access the Brainchip Twitter page without creating an account and logging in. I’d assume the tweet you were mentioning was probably still in your cache?

Twitter has started blocking unregistered users

Elon Musk blamed “data pillage” and claims the move is temporary.

www.theverge.com

Twitter has started blocking unregistered users​

/

If you want to browse tweets, user profiles, and comment threads on the web, then you need to be signed in to a Twitter account.​

By Jess Weatherbed, a news writer focused on creative industries, computing, and internet culture. Jess started her career at TechRadar, covering news and hardware reviews.
Updated Jun 30, 2023, 11:36 PM GMT+2|132 Comments / 132 New

Share this story​

• 
  
• 
  

The new sign-in prompt now appears as soon as you try to access Twitter and removes the previously available background preview.

Image: Twitter / The Verge
Update July 1st, 2:42PM ET: Elon Musk has now limited Twitter access for everyone, requiring a verified account to read more than 600 posts per day. The original article continues below.

If you currently try to access Twitter without logging in to your user account, you’ll be unable to see any of the content that was previously available to the wider public. Instead, you’ll meet a Twitter window that asks you to either sign in to the platform or create a new account, effectively blocking you from viewing tweets and user profiles or browsing through threads unless you’re a registered Twitter user.

Twitter didn’t immediately make a public announcement, making it unclear if this was an intentional update or another technical mishap. Later on Friday, however, Twitter owner Elon Musk tweeted, claimingin a reply that the change is a “Temporary emergency measure,” blaming “data pillaging” for degrading the service for all users.

In a reply to Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney complaining about how pay and account walls break the internet, Musk claimed, “Several hundred organizations (maybe more) were scraping Twitter data extremely aggressively, to the point where it was affecting the real user experience” without providing any more specifics.

We have seen some Twitter problems become more common recently, like broken previews in other apps like Discord, Slack, and iMessage, and Mashable recently reported that even people who pay the steep new rate for API access say they’ve seen unannounced changes, bugs, and no customer support. From the outside, we don’t know if that’s because of the scrapers Musk notes or his own attempts to cut costs that included layoffs within the teams that help keep Twitter’s servers running and reportedly leaving a Google Cloud bill unpaid for months before recently resuming payments, according to Bloomberg.

Prior to this change, Twitter allowed people limited access to the platform without an account — you could view public tweets and user profiles, for example, but couldn’t like or leave comments.

A window that prevented readers from viewing additional posts until they signed in also previously appeared after the viewer had scrolled past an undisclosed number of tweets, though that at least allowed some access to the platform.

————————————————————————————————————
You can apparently try the following method, though, as long as it still works:

Good Morning Frangipani,

Cheers for that info, would explain alot.

Never been accused of date pillaging before, I'll have to add that to my CV.

.

Regards,
Esq.

 

[cosors]

I just heard on the biggest German radio station that the hot shit in space regarding lightning detection for the EU is the Lightning Imager of the satelite of the EU and is with four cameras and 1000f/s
hot shit...

I laugh or one off and wait a bit until event based comes. They admit that the US Tec is better or more useful. NASA and Peophesee that is now your field I think.

1000fps
A blind hen finds its grain after pecking 1000 times.

hand wedge

Akida ubiquitous
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https://www.eumetsat.int/features/animations-europes-first-lightning-imager

"The Lightning Imager on board Europe’s newest and most advanced meteorological satellite has been switched on and is delivering impressive first results."

event based

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It is beautiful that we know here what is to come. Just patience. Do not be fools

A last gasp of the old TEC.

 

[IloveLamp]

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[Jasonk]

@Jasonk, thank you, danke, תודה (toh-dah)!
You have actually just provided me with yet another puzzle piece to confirm what I had so far suspected but figured was maybe a bit too speculative!!!

Despite the rather unprofessional looking IPro Silicon IP website featuring an eclectic mix of random stock photos (!) weirdly not from Israel, but of what appears to be a Central European wintery landscape, an Icelandic waterfall and sportsfishing charter boats off the coast of Baja California, Mexico, I am convinced that Brainchip’s management knew exactly what they were doing when entrusting Mauro Diamant with representing Brainchip in Israel, a start-up nation with excellent scientists and researchers on the forefront of technology, a country that despite its relatively small size should not be underestimated as a market for Brainchip’s technology! On the contrary…

Just like you, @Jasonk, I was expecting IPro Silicon IP to reside in a tech precinct, somewhere in the so-called Silicon Wadi (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Wadi), most likely in or around Tel Aviv, Haifa or Be’er Scheva. Imagine my surprise when I googled Shomera ( שׁוֹמֵרָה, lit. “guard”) and discovered it to be a moshav (similar to a kibbutz) with a population of less than 400 (2021), a small village near the Lebanese border!

I immediately thought of a connection to the IDF (Israeli Defence Forces) that are busy 24/7 monitoring the border to Lebanon (or rather the UN-recognised Blue Line, as there is no formal border due to territorial disputes, and the two countries technically remain at war) to protect Israel from Hezbollah attacks. Drones are one important tool for guarding the border - and this is, among other things, where Brainchip’s coveted technology comes in! UAVs (unmanned aerial vehicles) are a perfect use case for Akida.

On his website, Mauro Diamant states that his contact details are Hametzuda, Shomera. HaMetzuda המצודה literally means “the fortress / stronghold", which can easily be associated with a military base, and unsurprisingly there is the Shomera Armory nearby, home of the 300th Bar’am (Reserve) Infantry Brigade, one of the Northern Command brigades. (On one of the maps I googled it is however marked as having been closed down. If that is the case, maybe a new compound was built in Shomera itself?)

My Ivrith (modern Hebrew) is alas, very limited, and googling HaMetzuda either came up with info on the ancient Citadel of Acre (Akko) or various street names all over Israel. So since I hadn’t been able to confirm this further so far, I wasn’t sure whether my conjecture would be considered too far-stretched if I posted it at this point in time.

However, now seeing IPro Silicon IP registered at “Hatmar 1”, I am pretty confident that I am indeed on to something… My bet would be that Hatmar 1 is an address inside an IDF regional territorial brigade (Hatmar) compound.
Anyone fluent in Hebrew that could confirm my suspicion?

P.S.: The Mansion Lake Boutique’s address (Givat Tamir 1) is not the same one as the one IPro Silicon IP is registered at (Hatmar 1)…

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Well, thanks; well written.
I did find it interesting the maps are blurred and no street view in an area.

I could only think that IPro could be defence related but I can't find a word about the business.

5milllion xx earnings estimate was suprising. Again i wouldn't call the estimate a reliable source but it's all I could find.

I have come across articles relating to Israel defence force which covered SNN and neuromorphic computing. Might be worth trying to find and have another read.

 

[Boab]

 

[HopalongPetrovski]

 

[Rskiff]

yeah just getting over the latest announcement

 

[HopalongPetrovski]

Watch, as the last BRN share holder fights off the undead shorter's and The Dean from the crapper.

 

[jk6199]

I think we're all still waiting on a "BIG" or substantial announcement?

I really hope "We don't need China" has some substance to it.

End of financial year gone, hoping the upward share price pressure starts to roll in soon.

Doghouse cold, need heating

 

[miaeffect]

I think we're all still waiting on a "BIG" or substantial announcement?

I really hope "We don't need China" has some substance to it.

End of financial year gone, hoping the upward share price pressure starts to roll in soon.

Doghouse cold, need heating