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Its a wonder you're still holding then...clearly you must see a positive future. The company stated it would be "lumpy" so you only have your own expecation to be annoyed with.
Agreed, I think the point though that most have a grievance with (certainly I do) is that the half year accounts were presented in such a way that it wasn’t unreasonable to expect a significantly higher amount of cash inflow. The notes said as at 30 June $2.5 million of trade receivables were typically due on 30-90 day terms. Whilst this isn’t saying all terms are like that you would think that it would at least be the majority or a significant portion of that.
 
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Slymeat

Move on, nothing to see.
Or maybe they were lucky, depends how you look at it lol
Yes, for every buyer there is a seller and this could have been a shorter selling borrowed shares. :(
 
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Slymeat

Move on, nothing to see.
You had me till you compare fruit juice with scotch.

Scotch is proven in a University study to reduce back pain when taken as directed which is often.

What has fruit juice ever done to reduce back pain.

I call for all Scotch lovers even those without back pain to continue the ongoing research as there can never be too much data. 😁

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA
Interesting topic that I happen to know a little about! Gives us something else to think about whilst waiting for the eventual grandeur that WILL happen. PANTENE!

Read on only if you are interested to learn something that may improve your physical health and well-being.

Comparing fruit juice to Scotch was an inappropriate choice to get the low-carb point across. Scotch (as with most straight spirits) has zero carbs, but it does have calories. I had never heard of its back-pain alleviating qualities, but I'm willing to give it a try. :)

Maybe a better example would have been: fruit juice is worse than coke or other forms of pop drink. Or fruit juice is worse than directly eating spoons full of sugar. And it IS!

The main concern about fruit is that fructose is the enemy. Fructose can only be metabolized in the liver where it promotes the synthesis of fat. And a lot of that fat is stored in the liver which degrades the organ. Excess fat in the liver can lead to fatty liver disease and even cirrhosis of the liver.

Eating whole fruit is much better than fruit juice, the fibre in fruit makes it lower GI and hence not as bad as the fructose is absorbed into the body slower, but overall fructose still ONLY gets metabolized in the liver and places strain on that extremely important organ. Juicing fruit turns it into concentrated fructose and removes the most beneficial part—the fibre. And based purely on nutritional value, you're better off eating most fruit skins rather than the pulp inside.

As an aside, normal white sugar is 50% glucose and 50% fructose. Consuming something that is 100% fructose is worse than eating sugar by itself. Hence my spoons full of sugar comment above.

We have been fed a big porker of a lie by having the food pyramid shoved down our throats.

We have always been told fruit and grains are good for us. They are OK in moderation, but modern agriculture techniques have made them abundantly available all year round, and now they are consumed in excess. That's the crux of the problem and the reason for the obesity pandemic. Dietary fat, derived from animal sources, olive oil and avocado, is NOT the enemy! With the exception of olive oil and some nut oils, ALL other vegetable oils are also the enemy. And butter IS better than margarine!

The food pyramid is wrong and mainly exists to get us to eat stuff that was over abundant and couldn't be given to our cattle because it made them fat! The food pyramid was introduced to demonize all dietary fats, this was based on nonsense which has since been dis-proven. They introduced the Food Pyramid in 1977, in an attempt to stave off a false statistic of increasing heart disease, that they thought was the result of too much fat in the diet. And that is when the obesity epidemic started.

Look at photos of the general population from before 1977. It is difficult to spot a fat person in them.

The US stopped promoting the food pyramid in 2005 and dietary advice is now based on MyPlate, and moderation.
 
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Pappagolla

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Company does not have any new license deals and that's after aggressively expanding the sales team & hiring "seasoned AI semiconductor sales executive"...

Chris Stevens only started last month. It’s obscenely unrealistic to expect him to have already landed multi-million dollar deals in such a short timeframe especially with payments received that would appear in this report.
 
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Pappagolla

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“Watch the financials”

OK Sean got it!

“Revenue will be lumpy to start”

Hm? Sorry didn’t catch that. Hey check out this Lambo on carsales!

Honestly.
 
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alwaysgreen

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I thought I would wake up feeling better about the 4C but I haven't unfortunately.

Yes, we were told sales would be lumpy but we need to start showing hockey stick growth in order to justify our market cap. I was hoping last quarter was a small lump and this quarter would be double but to essentially have zero sales for the quarter when we have such a revolutionary product is a bitter pill to swallow.

The other disappointment is the selling of shares by LDN who sold a large proportion of his holding.

Yes, Sean's words about sales being busy are promising but so we should be the busiest we've ever been! And now that we are in our commercialization phase, words unfortunately, are just words. We need revenue. Simple as that and until we start seeing consistent revenue growth, we are going to be hammered by shorters.

I still believe in Brainchip and long term, I think we will be okay but this 4C couldn't get much worse, even the most ardent Brainchip supporter can't deny it.

Here's hoping this is the last terrible 4C and it's onwards and upwards from here. Unless there are some decent price sensitive announcements, the next 3 months are going to be controlled by shorters.
 
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The company is still at the beginning of its career. I think the numbers we're seeing today don't really mean that much. I personally see the whole thing as absolutely neutral.
It will be interesting from May 2023. From then on, I expect prices to increase. As an investor, you should never allow knee-jerk reactions.
Patience is very important here!
Just my opinion

Greetings from Germany
 
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I thought I would wake up feeling better about the 4C but I haven't unfortunately.

Yes, we were told sales would be lumpy but we need to start showing hockey stick growth in order to justify our market cap. I was hoping last quarter was a small lump and this quarter would be double but to essentially have zero sales for the quarter when we have such a revolutionary product is a bitter pill to swallow.

The other disappointment is the selling of shares by "insiders". LDN sold a large proportion of his holding and Anil looks to have sold a few.

Yes, Sean's words about sales being busy are promising but so we should be the busiest we've ever been! And now that we are in our commercialization phase, words unfortunately, are just words. We need revenue. Simple as that and until we start seeing consistent revenue growth, we are going to be hammered by shorters.

I still believe in Brainchip and long term, I think we will be okay but this 4C couldn't get much worse, even the most ardent Brainchip supporter can't deny it.

Here's hoping this is the last terrible 4C and it's onwards and upwards from here. Unless there are some decent price sensitive announcements, the next 3 months are going to be controlled by shorters.
There is no doubt revenue side is almost blank but how you were expecting revenue should had been there. There is no product in the market, there is no new announcement which means revenue was not coming.
Regarding stock price it will be keep on moving up or down. A dip should be considered as opportunity for investors on the other hand someone who bought brn for a quick benefit should get a lesson money making is not that easy.
I will only say evaluate the company based on facts than on hope.
 
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SiDEvans

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You had me till you compare fruit juice with scotch.

Scotch is proven in a University study to reduce back pain when taken as directed which is often.

What has fruit juice ever done to reduce back pain.

I call for all Scotch lovers even those without back pain to continue the ongoing research as there can never be too much data. 😁

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA
I’m a believer FF. Here’s to healthy backs. I hope my research can contribute to ending back pain forever.
It’s the least I can do 🥃
 

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What happened to Renesas releasing a product with Akida in it second half of 2022 ????
 
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What happened to Renesas releasing a product with Akida in it second half of 2022 ????
It may not be out yet or may not have been out for long enough to shift many units yet.
 
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I have slept on my response to give a little time for the emotions settle so that it could be put forward in a sensible and measured structure. Here goes ……

FARK ME . FAAAAARRRK ME SEAN!

Nah seriously now .

I am normally a very patient investor. However my patience is now tested. This wait for this revolutionary technology is unfortunately being delayed due to factors more important than the technology itself.

When man first discovered fire, I’m sure there were many other factors on his mind (like everything wants to kill and eat me). Did he put off selling his fire to the world.
The wheel was adopted pretty quickly. The metal axe and sword. The steam engine. The car. The telephone. The list goes on. Progress. If it is important enough, critical enough to progress in an efficient and proficient way….,,.it will sell.

Has Akida been sold. We have been shown very little “cash receipts” to date for such a revolutionary product. Let’s remember “ BrainChip is the worldwide leader in edge AI on-chip processing and learning. The company’s first- to-market neuromorphic processor, AkidaTM, is worlds first Neuromorphic Chip”

Now. The 1000 eyes have put together I mighty list of possible customers and products that could contain Akida. Why, I myself have contributed occasionally with my own beliefs. Most recently I stated I most certainly believe TDK i3 micro sensor has Akida technology. It is a low power sensor with edge AI. Producted Launched! On the market and selling now. TDK did not put off development and sale of this product because of COVID, war or any economic crisis in the east or west. It saw a need for the product and it is now out there. It’s called progress. Who else has this edge AI technology if Brainchip hasn’t sold it. It’s meant to be 3 years ahead of the competitors yet here is a product in the market. And Akida is not. This is one example. There are many more where we are told there is an alternative AI in the product. But wait. The product is just that. It’s a product with similar technology being sold. There is a need for it and it’s out there now !

We are being told there are extended valuations, budget decreases and delayed introduction of new technology. Someone should tell Brainchips competitors that. Because I see many products out there with AI and a lot are operating on the edge. Don’t start me on Mercedes’ We are being told that models are being released with the new MBUX with all the smarts and edge AI but it’s not Akida yet. It might be in models released in later years! WTF!

I’m disappointed to even post this as I know I will be ridiculed and said I am a downramper etc. some will defend the company and say “there are sales. We just haven’t seen them yet! There are things called NDA’s….. give them time. It’s outside their control. We were told it’s lumpy, we’re getting lumps“.

It’s now crunch time. There are no lumps. Just a crumb. The company has to deliver this current quarter or I am afraid they may never. If you have the worlds first of anything, you must be able to sell it. Why, because people are still actually selling ice to the Eskimo’s. No shit!

I leave it that. No more from me till January 23.

Edit: the company should put a freeze on bonus/share payments until it can sell more than it spends. Even advancement of technology bonuses! What’s the point if it can’t be sold
 
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Interesting topic that I happen to know a little about! Gives us something else to think about whilst waiting for the eventual grandeur that WILL happen. PANTENE!

Read on only if you are interested to learn something that may improve your physical health and well-being.

Comparing fruit juice to Scotch was an inappropriate choice to get the low-carb point across. Scotch (as with most straight spirits) has zero carbs, but it does have calories. I had never heard of its back-pain alleviating qualities, but I'm willing to give it a try. :)

Maybe a better example would have been: fruit juice is worse than coke or other forms of pop drink. Or fruit juice is worse than directly eating spoons full of sugar. And it IS!

The main concern about fruit is that fructose is the enemy. Fructose can only be metabolized in the liver where it promotes the synthesis of fat. And a lot of that fat is stored in the liver which degrades the organ. Excess fat in the liver can lead to fatty liver disease and even cirrhosis of the liver.

Eating whole fruit is much better than fruit juice, the fibre in fruit makes it lower GI and hence not as bad as the fructose is absorbed into the body slower, but overall fructose still ONLY gets metabolized in the liver and places strain on that extremely important organ. Juicing fruit turns it into concentrated fructose and removes the most beneficial part—the fibre. And based purely on nutritional value, you're better off eating most fruit skins rather than the pulp inside.

As an aside, normal white sugar is 50% glucose and 50% fructose. Consuming something that is 100% fructose is worse than eating sugar by itself. Hence my spoons full of sugar comment above.

We have been fed a big porker of a lie by having the food pyramid shoved down our throats.

We have always been told fruit and grains are good for us. They are OK in moderation, but modern agriculture techniques have made them abundantly available all year round, and now they are consumed in excess. That's the crux of the problem and the reason for the obesity pandemic. Dietary fat, derived from animal sources, olive oil and avocado, is NOT the enemy! With the exception of olive oil and some nut oils, ALL other vegetable oils are also the enemy. And butter IS better than margarine!

The food pyramid is wrong and mainly exists to get us to eat stuff that was over abundant and couldn't be given to our cattle because it made them fat! The food pyramid was introduced to demonize all dietary fats, this was based on nonsense which has since been dis-proven. They introduced the Food Pyramid in 1977, in an attempt to stave off a false statistic of increasing heart disease, that they thought was the result of too much fat in the diet. And that is when the obesity epidemic started.

Look at photos of the general population from before 1977. It is difficult to spot a fat person in them.

The US stopped promoting the food pyramid in 2005 and dietary advice is now based on MyPlate, and moderation.
One hundred percent agree with your comments @Slymeat , refined carbohydrates are the root of all evil that is leading many people to chronic inflammation and early deaths.
But let's get back to the topic at hand today.

Forgive Them Found Footage GIF by Eternal Family
The crucifixion of BRN
 
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Agreed, I think the point though that most have a grievance with (certainly I do) is that the half year accounts were presented in such a way that it wasn’t unreasonable to expect a significantly higher amount of cash inflow. The notes said as at 30 June $2.5 million of trade receivables were typically due on 30-90 day terms. Whilst this isn’t saying all terms are like that you would think that it would at least be the majority or a significant portion of that.
Isn't that still projecting expectations and timelines? I do understand why there is frustration though. I get it, I really do. I've been through a great deal of uncertainty holding and yes it can be challenging. We all have to make our own decisions on what our horizon is and what our goals are.
Is still a risk but with a company I trust to act reasonably and almost certainly through more interesting times. But they are still here and light years ahead of where they started.
 
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I'll just put it back in, we already had it, but it was posted by Prophesee 4 hours ago🥰😘

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Industrial automation applications have driven the early adoption of #eventcameras but further improvements in sensor size and power efficiency are making the #neuromorphic enabled vision sensing approach attractive for consumer applications, too.

Embedding more intelligence in the #pixels helps make #edgeprocessing more practical as well, which is ideal for more types of devices. “The closer you get to the acquisition of the information, the better off you are in terms of efficiency and low latency. You also avoid the need to encode and transmit the data,” says our CEO Luca Verre in a recent interview with Sally Ward-Foxton now available on EE Times Europe Anne-Françoise PELE.
 
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There is no doubt revenue side is almost blank but how you were expecting revenue should had been there. There is no product in the market, there is no new announcement which means revenue was not coming.
Regarding stock price it will be keep on moving up or down. A dip should be considered as opportunity for investors on the other hand someone who bought brn for a quick benefit should get a lesson money making is not that easy.
I will only say evaluate the company based on facts than on hope.
Problem is the company is not giving us many facts to work with. Most of the information we obtain is from the 1000 eyes and that in itself is pure speculation to a point. Doubt starts to creep in, next to zero revenue and reading between the lines of the CEO address the company is struggling to gain traction. Plenty of big companies are interested in testing AKIDA but are they actually willing to pull the trigger and commit to the tech. Although I understand the concept of NDA's and their importance in protecting the parties involved it gets to the point where one has to ask - is the silence and lack of news flow due to NDA's or simply due to nil commitment from customers. Also I find it incongruous that the CEO says that sales are the busiest to that the company has ever seen yet we are looking at almost zero revenue as a result...wtf? I guess even 1 sale is busier than none, so he might be telling the truth.....my frustrated opinions only after a long sleepless post 4C night.
 
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There needs to be an update on current NDA’s.. even if marginal.
 
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Isn't that still projecting expectations and timelines? I do understand why there is frustration though. I get it, I really do. I've been through a great deal of uncertainty holding and yes it can be challenging. We all have to make our own decisions on what our horizon is and what our goals are.
Is still a risk but with a company I trust to act reasonably and almost certainly through more interesting times. But they are still here and light years ahead of where they started.
Yea it is, but also financials should be able to be relied upon in a reasonable manner, especially when for the most part its the majority of information where provided as investors. If the company had simply made additional disclosure in the financials to say that a significant amount of these receivables are outside the typical trade terms because of x y and z then there wouldn’t be an issue.

Im not trying to be over critical but I do think that this needs to be recognised by the company and avoided in future. I understand that this is a long term investment (I’m going on 8 years of holding myself) and that the money will be all over the place to start with.
 
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Argo AI might not be using Akida but they know about it and think it's "pretty cool"
I contacted the Senior Director of Software Engineering | Head of Perception to ask if he was aware of BrainChip and Akida
He seems like a great dude

I sent him a link to the BrainChip Designing Smarter and Safer Cars with Essential AI document

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Hi bls I wonder how this will affect things?


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Quercuskid

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Well with all the great research, the fact none of the fundamentals have changed I have put a buy in to double my already large shareholding, belief, optimism or just plain foodhardy on my behalf, I hope the former!
 
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