BRN Discussion Ongoing

[Slade]

SiFive will be presenting at the Linley Fall Processor Conference on Nov 2. Here is their blurb:

Architecture and Key Features of SiFive's Newest Out-of-Order Vector Processor

Shubu Mukherjee, Vice President Architecture, SiFive

Since launching the P650 RISC-V applications processor a year ago, SiFive has made continual product enhancements to the platform such as support for the RISC-V vector extension, multicluster, virtualization, and WorldGuard security. The result is a best-in-class RISC-V processor as demonstrated by industry-standard benchmarks such as SPECint that is ready to tackle challenging computing requirements in applications such as mobile, autonomous vehicles, and the data center. This next-generation processor, called the P670, will propel RISC-V from embedded applications to the forefront of computing, where raw performance is demanded. This presentation will step through the P670 architecture and key features. It is available to lead partners now and will be ready for general release in Q1 of 2023.

 

[Diogenese]

At first glance, along with EdgeImpulse tweeting it, I thought so also. But then I noticed it is analog, so probably not Akida. I hope I am wrong and thatthey are using Akida somehow, but that analog word just gets in the way.

Either way, it is nice to see products coming out that embrace the ideas of what Akida can achieve. I assume PolynTechnologies have a lot of time and effort invested in this, and hence will try to recoup that money, and hence won‘t go digital or Akida. But I also see an avenue for a competitor to do exactly the same with Akida IP—and hence cheaper and with proven hardware they will have a competitive advantage.

I think that may very well be the way going forward. There still is a problem perceiving what Akida can achieve. People are busying themselves on the wrong solutions (as in implementing in software, thn trying to solve the power problem) and this blinkered outlook is preventing them from seeing the bigger picture And using hardware that already exists.

But still, it is nice to see products coming out so the world can embrace Akida’s, in hardware, true SNN and what it can achieve.

In my early years as an Electrical Engineer, and whilst at university, development typically was first done in software and then, after a concept had been proven, it was implemented in hardware.

As computers became more powerful, many solutions remained in software and the term bloatware became a thing. The engineer’s job was to create a solution and get it out there, power wasn‘t a great concern either, so GPUs were taken out of their graphics processing task and used as pure number crunchers.

Converting a software concept to a hardware solution was expensive but always produced a superior product. Dedicated and difficult to change, but usually faster and Really good at it’s task-at-hand.

The world needs a mind-shift to realize that Akida has a hardware (IP) solution and the work CAN be done the other way around. Or at least the conceptualisation can be done in BrainChip supplied simulators and development environments. With transference to hardware being basically at the press of a button.

As you say, hardware solutions had a single purpose. One of the many great things about Akida is that it can be adapted to any sensor interpreting task by using the appropriate model library and the correct node/layer configuration.

 

[Diogenese]

Sometimes I surprise myself by making pronouncements I have not the intellect or the resources to make. After all I am just a retired lawyer in the suburbs of Sydney with an iPhone.

Last week I made the statement that we were living in the lucky country and that the Treasurers surprise discovery of an extra $AU50 billion in revenue was no surprise and that I expected at least another $AU50 billion to be found over the coming months.

To my surprise (not really) the Treasurers $AU50 billion has now reportedly grown to $AU123 billion.

In this same report this morning on ABC radio the term economic miracle was again being thrown around to describe Australia.

Still we will all sadly hold our breath here in the economic miracle and wait to hear what the US basket case will do when the next obvious as the nose on your face 1 percent rate rise is imposed by the Fed.

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

How many times have we seen such miracles, only to see the money squandered on election war chests (or PUATW in colloquial language) instead of being used for nation-building?

 

[Zedjack33]

Appears to be in our wheelhouse. Thoughts?

InferSens Introduce Revolutionary Sensor Technology And First Application

InferSens to Introduce Ultra-Low-Power Edge DL Sensor Technology for Commercial and Industrial Applications Battery-Powered Sensor with Embedded Syntiant NDP120 Neural Decision Processor to Enable Highly Accurate On-Device Processing InferSens CTO Jonathan Peace to Present First Application for...

www.infersens.com

 

[Fact Finder]

Anyone else notice the BRN bounce has dragged the whole BIG BANK index into positive territory.

 

[SERA2g]

Anyone else notice the BRN bounce has dragged the whole BIG BANK index into positive territory.

Not only the bank, this mornings vibe on TSEX is feeling a little more positive also! Love it.

 

[TECH]

It was always coming.

But to think that the share price would magically just shoot up, well, you'd be wrong.

The markets understanding of the significance of this, and in fact, every granted patent that Peter and the team have won is never really appreciated.

The line is drawn in the sand, we can continue growing with no major roadblocks, while the mob have to fumble around looking for a new way forward.

Close on 20 years research comes with a price, and Peter being our founder, has well and truly earnt these Patents with the help of Anil and others in recent years, there was never going to be any shortcut, only years of almost obsessive research, determined never to give in.

Each and every one of these Patents carries a weight that none of us could truly ever understand.

AKD 2.0 IP We all await your arrival.

Tech x

 

[Kachoo]

It was always coming.

But to think that the share price would magically just shoot up, well, you'd be wrong.

The markets understanding of the significance of this, and in fact, every granted patent that Peter and the team have won is never really appreciated.

The line is drawn in the sand, we can continue growing with no major roadblocks, while the mob have to fumble around looking for a new way forward.

Close on 20 years research comes with a price, and Peter being our founder, has well and truly earnt these Patents with the help of Anil and others in recent years, there was never going to be any shortcut, only years of almost obsessive research, determined never to give in.

Each and every one of these Patents carries a weight that none of us could truly ever understand.

AKD 2.0 IP We all await your arrival.

Tech x

Its true Chris these patents do not get evaluated by markets instantly. But as a holder with a long term view i only see streght in the company moving forth. The market fear well I do feel it's really over done but the one issue is the Nukes at that point it will not matter to us if that happened. So let's hope for reason and future growth. I am a firm believer that BRN will out perform the markets regardless of the economic head winds we see imo.

 

[David holland]

Revenue will be the deciding factor with this share

 

[Fact Finder]

Hi @DingoBorat
Have you listened to the latest podcast yet as you threatened to do yesterday?
Regards
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

 

[TheDrooben]

It was always coming.

But to think that the share price would magically just shoot up, well, you'd be wrong.

The markets understanding of the significance of this, and in fact, every granted patent that Peter and the team have won is never really appreciated.

The line is drawn in the sand, we can continue growing with no major roadblocks, while the mob have to fumble around looking for a new way forward.

Close on 20 years research comes with a price, and Peter being our founder, has well and truly earnt these Patents with the help of Anil and others in recent years, there was never going to be any shortcut, only years of almost obsessive research, determined never to give in.

Each and every one of these Patents carries a weight that none of us could truly ever understand.

AKD 2.0 IP We all await your arrival.

Tech x

BIGGER MOAT = BIGGER BOAT!!!

 

[alwaysgreen]

Not only the bank, this mornings vibe on TSEX is feeling a little more positive also! Love it.

Morning TSEX is the best kind.

 

[Fullmoonfever]

As you say, hardware solutions had a single purpose. One of the many great things about Akida is that it can be adapted to any sensor interpreting task by using the appropriate model library and the correct node/layer configuration.

Hi D

Just on Polyn, quick question.

I know whenever we see analog we generally all discount it and for fair reason.

I also know as per previous BRN patents the ADC is discussed re signals as in analog to digital conversion for SNN process.

Whilst I see Polyn "chip" is analog does something like the ADC process have any influence here?

Looking through their Tech / Site I came across this diagram which I did find interesting given the "digital" layer / NN / algo appearing to create a hybrid setup(?) but may have no bearing at all so just checking.

 

[DingoBorat]

Hi @DingoBorat
Have you listened to the latest podcast yet as you threatened to do yesterday?
Regards
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

Umm..
Today, today..
It could be today?..

I guess it might be a bit of a measure, of my need for assurance, that I'm on the right bus

 

[Diogenese]

@Diogenese - correct me if I’m wrong. But this is the patent that dragged out due to issues of novelty against a prior Intel patent and 2 x IBM patents. We’ve obviously convinced the patent office of our novelty and hence the significance of this one being granted. Great news for us but possibly not good news for Intel and IBM?!

I've had a look at the USPTO examination report and BrainChip's response.

The argument centered mainly on Intel's US201900429209, and in particular the method of reconfiguring the nodes. Our attorneys pointed out that the Intel system uses a router, whereas our configuration is carried out using information stored in memory.

As Ella would say: " 'tain't what you do - it's the way that you do it."

On that basis, it's unlikely that our patent would cause Intel any embarrassment, not least because they have the earlier priority.

[0022] ... processor 100 includes a plurality of network elements 102 arranged in a grid network and coupled to each other with bi-directional links. However, an NoC in accordance with various embodiments of the present disclosure may be applied to any suitable network topologies (e.g., a hierarchical network or a ring network), sizes, bus widths, and processes. In the embodiment depicted, each network element 102 includes a router 104 and a core 108 (which in some embodiments may be a neuro-synaptic core block that implements neurons and/or synapses of a neural network), however in other embodiments, multiple cores from different network elements 102 may share a single router 104 . The routers 104 may be communicatively linked with one another in a network, such as a packet-switched network and/or a circuit-switched network, thus enabling communication between components (such as cores, storage elements, or other logic blocks) of the NoC that are connected to the routers. In the embodiment depicted, each router 104 is communicatively coupled to its own core 108 . In various embodiments, each router 104 may be communicatively coupled to multiple cores 108


BrainChip US11468299 = US2020143229A1 SPIKING NEURAL NETWORK

[0026] FIG. 17 illustrates configuration registers comprising a scan chain that define a configuration and connectivity of each spiking neuron circuit and each layer of spiking neuron circuits, according to some embodiments.

Note that configuration is a pre-SNN signal processing step, and thus does not imped the actual function of the SNN in identifying/classifying input data.

 

[butcherano]

Good summary....thanks for that @Diogenese....

 

[Jefwilto]

WOOHOO, ................................ PATIENT ANNOUNCEMENT

It was always coming.

But to think that the share price would magically just shoot up, well, you'd be wrong.

The markets understanding of the significance of this, and in fact, every granted patent that Peter and the team have won is never really appreciated.

The line is drawn in the sand, we can continue growing with no major roadblocks, while the mob have to fumble around looking for a new way forward.

Close on 20 years research comes with a price, and Peter being our founder, has well and truly earnt these Patents with the help of Anil and others in recent years, there was never going to be any shortcut, only years of almost obsessive research, determined never to give in.

Each and every one of these Patents carries a weight that none of us could truly ever understand.

AKD 2.0 IP We all await your arrival.

Tech x

Yes Tech,its always good to see another Patent granted,i do believe we are going to get another announcement of a Patent which will be granted soon i think,so we can look forward to another announcement soon i hope

 

[chapman89]

The International Centre For Neuromorphic Systems at Western Sydney Uni is holding a presentation on what neuromorphic computing is with demonstrations and you can also meet the team and ask more questions, this could be very interesting… will they be demonstrating with akida?

Register here, it’s also online if you can’t attend-

Wednesday, 2 November

www.westernsydney.edu.au

 

[Fact Finder]

I particularly like the following extract from the latest patent grant as it makes clear that Peter van der Made and Anil Mankar have an AKIDA event horizon that stretches as far and further than the eye can see:

“BACKGROUND
[0003] It has long been a goal for artificial neural networks to replicate the function of the biological neural network (the brain), with limited success. Brute force hardware approaches to the design of an artificial neural network have been cumbersome and inadequate, and fall far (short) of the desired goal of replicating the functionality of the human brain. Thus, a need exists for an approach that enables an autonomous, reconfigurable spiking neural network to be realized that can scale to very large networks, yet fit on a chip while rapidly making inferences from a wide variety of possible input data and/or sensor sources.”

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

 

[Dhm]

I've had a look at the USPTO examination report and BrainChip's response.

The argument centered mainly on Intel's US201900429209, and in particular the method of reconfiguring the nodes. Our attorneys pointed out that the Intel system uses a router, whereas our configuration is carried out using information stored in memory.

As Ella would say: " 'tain't what you do - it's the way that you do it."

On that basis, it's unlikely that our patent would cause Intel any embarrassment, not least because they have the earlier priority.

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[0022] ... processor 100 includes a plurality of network elements 102 arranged in a grid network and coupled to each other with bi-directional links. However, an NoC in accordance with various embodiments of the present disclosure may be applied to any suitable network topologies (e.g., a hierarchical network or a ring network), sizes, bus widths, and processes. In the embodiment depicted, each network element 102 includes a router 104 and a core 108 (which in some embodiments may be a neuro-synaptic core block that implements neurons and/or synapses of a neural network), however in other embodiments, multiple cores from different network elements 102 may share a single router 104 . The routers 104 may be communicatively linked with one another in a network, such as a packet-switched network and/or a circuit-switched network, thus enabling communication between components (such as cores, storage elements, or other logic blocks) of the NoC that are connected to the routers. In the embodiment depicted, each router 104 is communicatively coupled to its own core 108 . In various embodiments, each router 104 may be communicatively coupled to multiple cores 108


BrainChip US11468299 = US2020143229A1 SPIKING NEURAL NETWORK

View attachment 18632

[0026] FIG. 17 illustrates configuration registers comprising a scan chain that define a configuration and connectivity of each spiking neuron circuit and each layer of spiking neuron circuits, according to some embodiments.

Note that configuration is a pre-SNN signal processing step, and thus does not imped the actual function of the SNN in identifying/classifying input data.

@Diogenese for those of us more neuromorphically challenged (at least me) can you explain why this patent is so important? Is it related to Akida 2000? Does it close a gap that a competitor may have otherwise taken advantage of?