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Sirod69

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Kennt jemand die Leserschaft von news.financial? Ist es Mainstream oder Nische? Auf jeden Fall ist es immer noch großartig zu sehen, dass BRN außerhalb der Tech-Publikationen mehr erwähnt wird und sich in Finanzpublikationen ausbreitet. Das Wort kommt heraus. Der Schneeball wächst. Weniger Leute werden fragen, was neuromorphes Computing ist, und stattdessen "Heilige Scheiße" sagen. Wie lange geht das schon?

news.financial is in no way a niche, it appears on wallstreet-online.de.

There, Europe and the USA follow the share price

just click on it

scroll a little bit down and you find the post 03.08 ( inv3st.de corporate news)
 
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Steve10

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Solid post. Thanks!
Cheers. Everybody should be doing similar in leau of looking at SP daily.

There is a lead time for big revenue as projects take time to come to fruition. Once that patented revenue kicks in it can last 20 years as mentioned by ARM.

If BRN was partnered with no name partners there would be cause for concern. However, no need for concern as BRN is partnered with some big names directly & indirectly. Technology has been proven.

Traders will trade, shorters will short, manipulators will manipulate regardless.

FF kept the place sane. FF if you're reading hope you're well.
 
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It's quite sweet - the Spaniards used to use it as a wine extender ...
but it killed them.
Very sweet. I started my career as a diesel mechanic, and 20+ years back, tasting it was a good (debatable in retrospect 🤣) way to test refrigerant levels in cooling systems before winter (I come from a part of the world where it freezes in the winter).
 
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Consider existing devices with sensor(s) and algorithm(s) e.g. a sleep apnea machine.

Is it the case that where algorithms are using the sensor data to cause an action, Akida tech could cause more accurate actions because an algo. is limited to what the programmer has built into it and, for instance, could not cope with the unexpected?
 
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Steve10

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Remember this article from Deloitte? Can anybody remember what the SP was when they released the document as it doesn't appear to be dated?


RankingCompany nameCountryGrowth rateSegmentation
1Shape SecurityU.S.A~23000%**Business Services
2BrainChipU.S.A~16000%**Chip
3Razorpay Software India~11000%**Finance
4BioCatchIsrael~10000%**Finance
5SignifydU.S.A~6000%**Business Services
 
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Mercfan

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There is also a ignore function here which I unfortunately had to deploy the other day.
I thought it all stopped now after zeebot's Message but no one gets up every morning
 
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Esq.111

Fascinatingly Intuitive.
Remember this article from Deloitte? Can anybody remember what the SP was when they released the document as it doesn't appear to be dated?


RankingCompany nameCountryGrowth rateSegmentation
1Shape SecurityU.S.A~23000%**Business Services
2BrainChipU.S.A~16000%**Chip
3Razorpay SoftwareIndia~11000%**Finance
4BioCatchIsrael~10000%**Finance
5SignifydU.S.A~6000%**Business Services
Afternoon Steve10,

Great posts.

The date I have for the above Deloitte report is 2019, and the price was roughly $0.05cents.

The implied share price I extracted was $8.00

These were from my scribblings on a peice of paper back then so may be off.

Also I belive DrPutin ( poster alias ) found this article and supplied to all.

Regards,
Esq.
 
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Remember this article from Deloitte? Can anybody remember what the SP was when they released the document as it doesn't appear to be dated?


RankingCompany nameCountryGrowth rateSegmentation
1Shape SecurityU.S.A~23000%**Business Services
2BrainChipU.S.A~16000%**Chip
3Razorpay SoftwareIndia~11000%**Finance
4BioCatchIsrael~10000%**Finance
5SignifydU.S.A~6000%**Business Services

Possibly 30/10/2019, so... about 5 cents.

Here's the an article containing that info: https://thecxlab.io/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/deloitte-cn-tmt-ai-report-en-190927.pdf
 
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FYI - about 2% royalties. Say $15 chip x 2% = 30 cents.

ARM sold 29.2B chips in 2021. If BRN can find it's way into 5% of ARM chips = 1.5B chips x 30c = $450M revenue. If royalties are 1% then revenue will be $225M.

ARM IP revenue model

The upfront license fee depends on the complexity of the design you’re licensing. An older ARM11 will have a lower up front fee than a Cortex A57. The upfront fee generally ranges from $1M - $10M, although there are options lower or higher than that (I’ll get to that shortly).

The royalty is on a per chip basis. Every chip that contains ARM IP has a royalty associated with it. The royalty is typically 1 - 2% of the selling price of the chip. For chips that are sold externally that’s an easy figure to calculate, but if a company is building and selling a chip internally the royalty is based on what the market price would be for that chip.

Both the up front license fee and the royalty are negotiable. There are discounts for multiple ARM cores used in a single design. This is where things like support contracts come into play.

Buses/interfaces come for free, you really just pay for CPU/GPU licenses. ARM’s Mali GPU is typically going to be viewed as an adder and is currently viewed as demanding less of a royalty than ARM’s high-end CPU licenses. A rough breakdown is below:

ARM Example Royalties​
IP
Royalty (% of chip cost)​
ARM7/9/11
1.0% - 1.5%​
ARM Cortex A-series
1.5% - 2.0%​
ARMv8 Based Cortex A-series
2.0% and above​
Mali GPU
0.75% - 1.25% adder​
Physical IP Package (POP)
0.5% adder​

In cases of a POP license, the royalty is actually paid by the foundry and not the customer. The royalty is calculated per wafer and it works out to roughly a 0.5% adder per chip sold.

It usually takes around 6 months to negotiate a contract with an ARM licensee. From license acquisition to first revenue shipments can often take around 3 - 4 years. Designs can then ship for up to 20 years depending on the market segment.

Of the 320 companies that license IP from ARM, over half are currently paying a royalty - the rest are currently in period between signing a license and shipping a product. ARM signs roughly 30 - 40 new licensees per year.

About 80% of the companies that sign a license end up building a chip that they can sell in the market. The remaining 20% either get acquired or fail for other reasons. Royalties make up roughly 50% of ARM’s total revenues, licensing fees are just over 33% and the remainder is equally distributed between software tools and technical support.

ARM's revenues are decent (and growing), but it's still a relatively small company. In 2012 ARM brought in $913.1M. Given how many ARM designs exist in the market (and the size of some of ARM's biggest customers), it almost seems like ARM should be raising its royalty rates a bit. Because of ARM's unique business model, gross margin can be north of 94%. Operating margin tends to be around 45% though.




 
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Possibly 30/10/2019, so... about 5 cents.

Here's the an article containing that info: https://thecxlab.io/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/deloitte-cn-tmt-ai-report-en-190927.pdf

0.05! I bought some on Jan 20 2022 at $2.13 😳 Ye olde fomo purchase 🤣

Sad Happy Hour GIF


Well done to all who bought large volume in the good old days. I both envy and salute you
🤑👏🏻
 
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Steve10

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Thanks for the Deloitte date replies.

Interesting. $8 target by say end of the year = $13.75B MC.

To be honest the only way I see $8 SP by later this year is a big blow off top due to big news. The type of news it would require would be similar to NVX with strategic investor. Nvidia & Jensen Huang on the Board would get us to $8. Maybe that's who the board seat will be for.
 
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0.05! I bought some on Jan 20 2022 at $2.13 😳 Ye olde fomo purchase 🤣

Sad Happy Hour GIF


Well done to all who bought large volume in the good old days. I both envy and salute you
🤑👏🏻


 
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Bravo

If ARM was an arm, BRN would be its biceps💪!
Mercedes Drive Pilot - Level 3



Extract 1 - Article published 2 Aug 2022
While a human driver depends on eyes and ears to cope with traffic, Drive Pilot relies on a “sensor fusion.” To meet Level 3 standards, Mercedes becomes the first automaker to lidar, a high-definition laser imaging technology, in a production vehicle. It’s paired with an assortment of cameras, radar and sonar sensors mounted all around the vehicle.
The system constantly compares the input from the various sensors and will hand control back to the human driver if there’s conflict.
Initially, the technology will be offered on two flagship Mercedes-Benz sedans. On the S-Class it costs 5,000 euros — about $5,130 at current exchange rates. On the automaker’s all-electric flagship, the EQS, it goes for 7,430 euros, or $7,620. Pricing for the U.S. market will be announced closer to the launch of Drive Pilot here.


Extract 2 - Article published 10 April 2022

The conditional Level 3 Drive Pilot system builds on the hardware and software used by Mercedes’ Level 2 ADAS system known as Distronic. It adds a handful of additional advanced sensors as well as software to support the features. Key hardware systems that will be added to future S-Class vehicles configured with the Drive Pilot upgrade include an advanced lidar system developed by Valeo SA, a wetness sensor in the wheel well to determine moisture on the road, rear-facing cameras and microphones to detect emergency vehicles, and a special antenna array located at the rear of the sunroof to help with precise GPS location.


Extract 1


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Boab

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0.05! I bought some on Jan 20 2022 at $2.13 😳 Ye olde fomo purchase 🤣

Sad Happy Hour GIF


Well done to all who bought large volume in the good old days. I both envy and salute you
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Ditto.
 
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OMFG, you know in days gone past when you used to buy a new car it came with all the mechanical setting /tolerances for service requirements , now it has warning signs attached to coolant reservoirs and the like "do not drink" The world is just getting dumber and dumber(n)
Everytime I buy shoes there is a nice yummy snack in the box those nice little candies yum 😜
 
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Sorry to burst anyone's bubble (lol), but remember, sugar rushes can end in head aches. Have we had any official announcement to have the SP rise or fall today, yesterday? Nope, so this is still just the daily cycle of the traders/manipulators doing their things? What goes up ends up coming down without news. If it does drop remember it went up first before the drop, don't complain it didn't go up in a straight line. There's a little too much optimism in some chatter about green days, lol. It'll do what it does, but the ones playing Russian roulette end up in trouble sooner or later. For me traders are the ones who make anywhere up to 2-3k per week if they're good. but most come and go with losses. The chance they win the lotto (perfect timing) very rare. Holders who bought at 4-50c here know what I'm talking about. Me personally, I'm sitting at +420%. Not bad, was sitting at 900% at one stage, but I'm just sitting back watching the world go by and thinking knowing that in time, with all the slow and steady work going on, even the 900% that I once had will seem small. 900% for buyers today is around $11. For me $11 will be 4800% for others it will be much greater. Why don't I buy more now, you know, top up? Because I don't need to, I was lucky enough to buy good amount early, but we all know, just the hint of Mercedes made us go crazy, what happens when they all end up official and revenue ramps up? I know I won't be telling people how I used to hold BRN at $1.12. Good luck people, BRN are on the brink, we all know it, I wonder how well this post will hold up in 12 months from today?
Post of the day, in my books!
Even without paragraphs 😛
 
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